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What Makes the Difference? - 15th November 2016

November 15, 20166:0514 views

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Ananta explains that while love and momentary pain are natural, prolonged suffering only arises when we fuel emotions with conceptual beliefs and expectations about how others should behave.

To love is full of space and freedom; it is making love conditional that causes struggle.
None of you can actually suffer without believing a concept over and over.
We reinforce pain with the fuel of concepts to convert it into prolonged suffering.

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Transcript

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Ananta

What makes the difference is the question. That exactly is the question, isn't it? That what is the difference between me and a stranger? I suppose that's how humans are? No, you can't hide behind that. Then there's no point coming here. All of humanity is suffering. What is the point of Satsang if that's how you humans are? Then humans are this way. Most of humanity is not coming to Satsang, but why are you here? Take the mic. It's an important conversation.

Seeker

So like, if a stranger tells me something, no matter what he tells, it doesn't matter. It doesn't hurt because there is no connection. There's no deeper connection there. But if you tell me something, and there's such a deeper connection with you, and there's such a strong love with you, that if you tell me something then it could trigger a strong, intense pain, intense hurt here.

Ananta

Yes, yes, yes. So that which we call love, what does it mean? You see, does love lead to freedom or does love lead to constriction?

Seeker

That I don't know.

Ananta

But this much I... that's what the purpose of the question is, for you to look. If I was to just grapple with what you already knew, then it would serve no purpose. The purpose of asking is so that you can shine your light on this question and see. So I say I love someone. Does that mean that because I love someone, or the feeling of love is here, does it mean that now that one should now be constricted to my idea of how they should behave or how they should reciprocate or respond? You see, that is the trouble, isn't it? To love is full of space. The love is full of freedom. It is when we make our love conditional then we struggle because of it, you see. So if you love, you love Adam. So you love Adam. Now, because you love Adam, should Adam have to behave in a particular way or love you back?

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Seeker

Yes, I understand that love should give freedom, but experientially it is seen that if it doesn't happen in a certain way, then it triggers something here also. And that also can be a part of freedom. That which is appearing here, for example, some pain which appears or comes here, then why can't it also be accepted?

Ananta

Yes, I feel you know this one. You know the answer for this one because you've heard it for a long time. We're not talking about the momentary pain which can arise, but we go into... Father, like for example, if you tell me something which would really hurt me, then I could be crying for days. It's not just... see how much you can cry if I tell you something strong. And we can try it now before you pick up a concept about it. You see, you will maybe... some it can happen. See, Guruji tell me something, some tears can come, something can happen, you see. But first I have to then believe a concept about it. 'Oh, how could he tell me this?' or 'Why does he always pick on me?' or 'Why doesn't he understand me and I'm this way?' We have to reinforce that pain with some fuel of concept to convert that into a prolonged suffering. You see, that is what is being spoken about here. So there can be love, there can be a reaction, response of hurt or grief which can come, but to make suffering out of it we need to reinforce it with some ideas, with some concepts.

Ananta

See, now the basic point is very simple. None of you can actually suffer without believing a concept over and over. We are saying the same thing, but the concepts themselves... this is the Mahabharat of the concept, you see. The concept, the mind itself is fighting back with the best concept it can bring up. And all of you are fighting with different sets of concepts. If you were to look in this room right now—and I don't want to give any report cards—but all of you have a different set of favorite concepts. One has a concept about doership, one has a concept about freedom, one has a concept about emotion, one has a concept about something else, body, relationship. So it is just which concept seems to be playing out the strongest here. But right now they're gone. Right now they're gone. Now they're gone. Now, now, now, now. If you go really fast, you don't give any space for the movement of this energy called the mind. Yes.

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