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What is this Knowingness? - 11th Apr 2016

April 11, 20165:06237 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta explains that the true 'I' is the ever-present knowingness prior to all phenomena, which modulates into beingness and eventually the persona, where all suffering resides.

Knowingness is ever-present and prior even to presence; it is the truest 'I'.
All suffering is person-centric, arising only when consciousness pretends to attach ideas to itself.
The game of life is the truest 'I' playing as beingness, then playing as a person.

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Transcript

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Seeker

Ananta, please repeat about the knowingness which the other gentleman was speaking to you about.

Ananta

Let's look fresh. Whatever is being perceived right now, either what I call these external objects through the senses or internal objects perceived internally, you are aware of this perceiving, isn't it? So this perceiving of phenomena is what I call the phenomenal perceiving, and that which knows of this is the knowingness or the awareness itself. So that which knows that phenomenal perceiving, perception, is happening, and also knows when it is not happening—this knowingness is ever-present. It is prior even to presence; it is present.

Ananta

It's the simplest thing to know really, but it's impossible to understand. If you try to make a concept out of it, then you cannot fathom it. When you remove all layers and keep them aside, this 'I' that cannot be removed is this awareness itself. The perceiving is happening or not happening; there is a knowing of it. This is the truest 'I'.

Ananta

Then this 'I' then modulates into many different senses. It can become this sense 'I am'. The presence 'I am', the beingness, is born within the 'I' itself as 'am', as beingness. Then it becomes 'I am' that which we call the waking state or the dream state, and this I am-ness is what we call consciousness. Now this 'I am' has the ability to attach ideas to itself—the ability to pretend to attach ideas to itself. So it can say 'I am good', 'I am bad', 'I am honest', 'I am dishonest', which are just ideas actually. And yet, through the power of belief, we can play as if we are all of this.

Ananta

And then when we are playing as individualized consciousness, 'I am a person' consciousness, the Jivatma, then there is potential for all of this suffering in the play, because all suffering is person-centric. So this 'I' then playing as I am-ness, and I am-ness playing as a person—this is all that the game is about, you see.

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