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Let's Question This Presumption - 7th January 2018

January 7, 20184:0229 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta challenges the seeker to drop the presumption of being anchored in the body or mind, revealing that such boundaries are merely mental inferences that sustain duality and suffering.

No good comes out of the inference that you are anchored in the body or emotions.
If you drop the presumption of being anchored, you find it is just not true.
The idea that you must travel from the body to consciousness keeps the seeker waiting.

contemplative

boundary of beingnon-localityego personalitydoershipdualityconsciousnessself-inquiry

Transcript

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Seeker

May I go back to that question that you asked: where is the boundary of you, or where is the boundary of being? And this is my experience. There's me, the body, and that boundary is here. There's the emotions, which is a little bigger than my body frame. There's the thought aspect of me, which is now getting non-local but still centered here. Then there's the ego personality, which is again non-local but it's still centered here. And then behind that, there's the I Am, in front of which everything is playing, and of course it's non-local. And then there's also the I bigger than the I Am, and there's no question of locality there or boundary there. So it's this and this and this and this and this and this, and it's all playing as one. It's just that I'm sitting in that first two or three frames of reference; I'm anchored there. So my frame of reference is anchored from there, and I have physicality. But I am also aware that I'm simultaneously in consciousness, playing all the way through there. So I think, as time goes on, it drops here and you live more here, and then the body-personality plays in front of that.

Ananta

What if we were to question this presumption together: that I am anchored in the first two? Is there some actual evidence of that, or just circumstantial inference-based evidence flowing through? And what is the positivity behind the inference? What is the benefit it brings you?

Seeker

It... you can function on a certain plane.

Ananta

And have we tried without it? No. Let's try this. I will tell you that no good comes out of this inference. If this consciousness has wanted to experience itself in a certain way, now that it is in satsang, it is done with that experience. The only thing that comes out of it is duality, desire, doership, suffering. So if you drop the presumption that 'I am anchored in the body, I am anchored at my emotions or my mind,' then you find actually it is just not true. Otherwise, the idea of time—that I have to go from there to there to there to there—can keep a person waiting.

Seeker

It's very freeing. Yeah.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.