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'I Don't Know' Means 'No Position' - 16th November 2017

November 16, 201758:44115 views

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Ananta guides seekers to the state of 'I don't know,' stripping away conceptual identities. He emphasizes that suffering arises from believing limited notions of the self, whereas true freedom is found in surrendering to the Guru's feet.

The truth does not need a belief. Only a concept needs your belief.
At the root of all confusion and suffering is confusion about the 'I'.
You did not wake up in the morning; the morning woke up in you.

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Transcript

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Ananta

Welcome to satsang this morning. Guru Sri Mooji Baba ki Jai. Today, you desire—does 'I' represent reality? Are you opening it by some each idea? Yes, that's what I'm asking. Does 'I' be representing? Is that 'I' me? Believe the plugs... I mean, this is this place. So let's go slowly. So you say, ready to see that there is this awareness which is the Self, which is playing this dynamic manifestation with all of this now. Which part of this needed belief? Are you believing this? Are you seeing this? There's a knowing of this, but is this knowing as a concept? Okay, I don't know if this is true. So let's see now. So if this concept was not there, what are you?

Seeker

I don't know.

Ananta

'I don't know' is very good. Don't leave this 'I don't know.' Don't replace it with any concept, even the ones that you haven't said. Some don't feel like it's a bad thing. 'I don't know'—I've been saying this over and over—'I don't know' is very good. So stay in that 'I don't know' masala. And then if, on its own, some words are expressing what is your deeper insight, which is beyond all conceptual knowing, then we can say 'I am awareness.' If automatically these words are arising out from your mouth, that it is so clearly seen that I am this awareness, then we can say it. Until then, you don't leave that 'I don't know' because if you believe to have awareness, even that becomes a concept. And then we struggle with the concept: 'Am I really awareness? Have I got it? Have I not got it? Am I free?' You see all this. But in 'I don't know,' all this struggle is not. 'I don't know' is very auspicious because this is not the typical classroom here. The ones who say 'I don't know' come first. You want to insist that they know? They have to be taught towards this 'I don't know' because in 'I don't know' there is no position. So don't even make 'I don't know' a position. 'I don't know'—I don't even know whether I know or not. That is 'I don't know.' I don't even know anything, including whether I know. So empty of any concept. You can only suffer if you know, and you can suffer from the highest concepts also.

Ananta

This is what I'm talking about the last few days where I've seen you. I said that you don't take any position, no reference point, not even the biggest words. Because if it is becoming another belief system, then that is not the end of suffering. It's like many in Advaita might be trying to work it like this: that we will replace all the concepts—person, ego, all of this—with other newer ones. But I tell you that it is not about replacing any concept. You don't have to believe anything. You feel something needs your belief? Yes, surrender. Yes, here, even what to believe or not to believe, I don't know. But how do you invest? So consciousness has given itself some very primal forces, like it plays with the forces of attention, plays with the force of belief, makes it identity. Using all of these things, consciousness, I Am, being, has given itself the power to believe itself to be something. 'I am something.' So it is to use this like a hypnosis to consider itself to be something that it is not. It's like if somebody used to hypnotize you and say 'You're a cat.' You see that that is what is happening. So consciousness has done this to itself where it is believing itself to be a limited body-mind entity, but actually it is the Self itself. So this is one of the powers of consciousness itself that it has given to itself. So every time we believe something, because we are consciousness—I am consciousness, you're consciousness, it is one consciousness—it is consciousness using belief to consider itself to be something about it. Because in all beliefs there is the notion of limitation, the notion of position, the notion of your reference point. 'I must be this body' or 'I must be the soul' or some idea that we have about ourselves.

Ananta

For me, limit means like, supposing you're having an idea here. So let's look at what this is. Usually the limitation that we've accepted about ourselves is that I am consisting of this body, or constrained by this body, or contained within this body, you see? So that is the limitation. Second limitation is that I am that to which my mind is referring to. 'I want this, I don't want this' is the idea of a limitation. There is a limited entity who wants something. This one you will not even find. But it is not saying the unlimited, it is not saying the Self wants. 'I want.' So we believe ourselves to be contained within the body. The word is representing a limited notion which is the ego. So the mind is representing a notion about ourselves which is limited, but we do not find this one, but we believe it. This answers your second part of the question which was: when I say 'I want something' and it doesn't happen, who's the 'I' in that? Yes, because this is your will. There is no concept of desire because all of this is appearing within me in my own light anyway. We don't have to go so far with the concept of desire. Is it not? Now we can say that ultimately all of this is the will of consciousness. But as long as it's still a conclusion about small 'I' and big 'I,' it's not even worried about whether it is my will. Yes, in one way you can say like that, but it is like this: this arm is moving now. We have believed the idea that some individual entity has moved this arm, or somebody is speaking these words. But this arm is moving, these words are being spoken. In the same way the traffic on the street is moving, the voice from that room is coming. All of this, the light from this perceptual experience is coming—all of this is happening. Now we have assigned a set of sensations and said 'That is me, that is I.' Now we are blowing up that idea which has been an idea. You've taken some sensations that we call the body and called it 'I.' You've taken one sensation which we call the mind and say 'That is I.' You're representing 'I.' Now we actually look on the inquiry and find no such 'I.' Do you think it's just moving on its own? Then end of desire, end of doership, end of the ego. It is just by asking yourself this simple question: Who does 'I' represent? Who am I? And 'I don't know.'

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Seeker

Is the script written?

Ananta

If I say within you, actually 'script' has a concept of time. So although we can say that everything is predetermined in destiny, it is a concept just to use in this realm to give some clarity to this. Practically, does God need a script? He doesn't need one. But something happens. So it is the will of God. Rather than saying whether it is scripted or not—which would mean actually that God's will is actually written down somewhere and there's a script that He's following—this is actually beyond time. So at one level you can say everything has already happened. At another level we can say that nothing is ever happening. But rather than worrying about what the script contains—because after 'Is it scripted?' usually it's like 'What does it contain for me?' or something like that—if we don't concern ourselves with that, you say that everything is happening in the light of consciousness, on the screen of consciousness. Therefore, whose will must it be? The will of consciousness. Now whether consciousness has a script which consciousness is referring to, or it is completely on the fly, these are concepts which are limited in time. But consciousness is prior to time. So why is any of this happening? Consciousness. Who is it happening to? Consciousness. Who is doing it? Consciousness. Who's experiencing it? Consciousness. What is consciousness? Qualitatively, if you blank it, it is the dynamic aspect of the Self. Don't escape that 'I don't know.' It is fantastic.

Ananta

You asked for me. Only a concept needs your belief. Truth does not need your belief. I have to do this often, isn't it? Can you believe this glass? You only believe a concept about it. You can believe the label of glass is 'glass.' Without 'glass,' it just is. Whatever is, is. So the truth does not need a concept about it. Where was it needed? It was needed somewhere when that would need your belief. Even the perceptual realm does not need a belief. Even that which is perceived, does it need a belief? I don't need to believe a coconut is a coconut to drink from it. It's prior to memory. A child knows how to drink from the milk bottle. Does it have a concept, 'Oh, that has milk in it, so I drink from this'? Other than saying instinct, we can say there is a supreme intelligence already which is running this world. We have relied on our belief system for too long to try and pretend to run our life. What is the source of all of this? That must be within. God does not need anything to believe anything to run this world, to run this life. That's why I said all confusion is really confusion about 'I.' Once you see that consciousness is just an aspect of you, you see this very meaning in those 'I don't know.' All these tools which are available for the inquiry, like 'Who is the witness of all that is moving?'—you just cut the glue and then don't have any concept of 'no response has to come,' 'no answer has to come.'

Ananta

What is your boundary? You simply do not imagine yourself to be something. Right there, people feel small. If some visuals are coming from the mind, allow them to come and go. See if they are within you or outside you. What is the boundary of that within which all things are arising and falling? The point of the Guru is not to give you answers; it is to shake away everything that you know. All these concepts you know, like dust has collected on the being... okay, don't take it literally, it's just a metaphor. Nothing can collect on the being. It is to use a metaphor: all this conceptual dust has been stuck onto you, and satsang is the bath. All this conceptual dust is being cleaned away right away. Now don't use the bathwater as your new belief. Empty of all notions. Find out if anything that might be arising is bigger than the space in which it is arising. Now some will see some feeling is arising, some will see some interpretation is arising, some will see whatever sensations that are arising. See if anything can be bigger than that in which they are arising. And once you see that it cannot be, see that everything is arising within you, but you're not you personally. Therefore, nothing is bigger than you. Nothing can make a scratch on you because you are no-thing. To use another popular metaphor—it is also not true, it is also a metaphor—suppose you are the space in this room. That means the space is concerned by what is arising or not? Is the space afraid of anything that is arising? No. So how can you, which is the space of that space, and that space of that screen—just your dynamic aspect—be concerned with anything that will be coming out?

Ananta

Do I give the word, the sound? In confusion, stay with this. It's easier this morning. This morning, an aspect of you took birth as the universe. But that aspect of you believed itself to be just restricted to one body. Now coming to satsang, I am reminding you that that which took birth is the body of your dynamic aspect. You is a great divine hypnosis that you can believe yourself to be something which is so tiny, so limited, so constrained. That which is the source of the projector and the screen has considered itself to be just one of the characters of the movie. That's why the question is: Who are you? Who am I? The identification with the character will dissolve in this. You will find that nobody is the character. All these boundaries have just been perceived; they don't define you. You contain them; they don't contain you. Don't believe any of this, but check. Are you defining yourself? And this truth needs some definition? So actually we can say—you don't have to say it—that you did not wake up in the morning; the morning woke up in you. Once there was a very learned seeker who went to the sage. He said, 'I have a problem.' The sage said, 'I'll help you. I have a spelling later.' She finds... wait, I must be clear. The rainmaker...

Ananta

All these boundaries have just been perceived; they don't define you. You contain them; they don't contain you. So, don't believe any of this, or check: Are you defining yourself? This truth needs no definition. So actually, we can say—you don't have to say it if it's not true—that you did not wake up in the morning; the morning woke up in you.

Ananta

Once there was a very learned seeker who went to the sage Atmananda. There's a beautiful sage called Atmananda. So, this very learned seeker went to Atmananda and said, 'Will you share the ultimate truth with me?' And Atmananda sat quietly. You know, in the olden days, the sages had to be plotted before they would speak. So, this seeker kept plotting: 'Will you share? I'm here. These are my credentials. I went to this school before. I have learned all this. These are my spiritual experiences. Please share the ultimate truth with me.' And Atmananda was just sitting quietly, just looking.

Ananta

As it always happens—it very often happens with me also—after a while, the seeker gets upset. 'I've been asking sincerely. I've been asking with full devotion, and I've asked you over and over again. I feel like you are very egoistic that you're not answering my question.' Then the sage looked at him and spoke. He said, 'You have been asking, and every time you have asked, I have answered. But you don't hear the answer. If all that you say about your credentials is true, all that you say about your experiences is true, then you must be able to hear this answer by now, what I'm sharing with you in the silence.' The rest of satsang, the words of the tongue, are just so that you can hear this silence. What can be more intimate than this? I am that which witnesses the space between your two thoughts.

Seeker

Who is there? Why have I to take a position in which all is in me? I can see everything is in me, but why? When I am in silence, there is the witness. In silence, there is no madness. It is only Brahman. It is only Brahman. So, when you say 'all is in me' and 'I'm awareness,' I find it very, very uncomfortable. I find it very, very uncomfortable because to witness, I have to preserve myself. 'All is in me'—I accept it, but it is not required actually to dissolve in Brahman. I mean, if all is in me, it is all Brahman. This silence witnesses this. It is not like this. You have to remove every time I pick up this form that is always in me, and I am not a container. It is a request, Father. What am I doing? It is not a mental exercise. We have to smell now what else you hear in the silence.

Ananta

So, I complain about concepts because food is in the person and what isn't. Our masks are so bound to hurt. If all this is Paramatma, then how can you have a problem with anything? This is making you cry. It is my heart, actually. It is boiling. Which is running? Not mine.

Seeker

What is my query? If I raise it there, then it is not true. I am at my Father's feet. Then this academic engagement, wanting the right answer, can bother you. At my Father's feet, what else is of any value? Nothing is offering you any... On one hand, I am trying to get this concept and I'm understanding whether there is awareness or not, and on one hand, holding on to my Father. One foot is not my advice to you. Both hands, head, feet, everything at my Father's feet.

Ananta

I have told you right from the very beginning that because you must be a unique one, the problem and others, even practical or impractical, upon the Upanishad that I become that kind of a thing. Like the mind, it is a kind of like—I mean, then automatically there is weight and perfect control to be aware. And like, you know, it is my responsibility to run the play. That surrendering is not happening. That's why I'm saying that to be at my Father's feet is the best advice for you, because I have to say today that you have not understood awareness. So, can you please forget about it? Fine, Father, I'm out now. But who has been able to understand this?

Ananta

If awareness sounds like something you have to do, then there is an idea of awareness which is not what I am talking about. And when you try to unlock this puzzle, you just add to your anxiety. So why you want to do all that? I am telling you the simpler way. No, I choose... and for a long time, I'll explain the difference between perceiving, attention, awareness, all of these things. But now I'm giving you an approach which has no escape routes: remain empty of all notions about yourselves and stay at my Father's feet. Both are the same. As you remain empty of any notion about yourself, that is my Father's feet. As you remain at my Father's feet, you are empty of all notions about yourself. But if you are at my Father's feet and still have notions about yourself, then you're not it. Then there is one hand here, one hand there.

Ananta

Just like when we run out of moves, we come to satsang. Now when you come to satsang, the mind has run out of moves. So, this is very auspicious. Allow it to run out of moves. Come to the 'I do not know.' It is very good because, as you rightly said, otherwise it becomes just academic. 'Oh, awareness is a faculty that I have and it's something that I have to...' Just better forget about it. It's easier to know. One hand on Guruji's foot and one hand on the mind's foot—that is going to be a lot of suffering. And then only it can be confusing because it can feel like, 'Oh, but I am at my Father's feet.' Why is it still happening to me? Anytime you pick up any notion about yourself, any idea, then know that that is holding on to the foot of the mind.

Ananta

And now, if it is my Father's will, if it is His grace, that He Himself puts His words in your mouth, then they will be the most fragrant words in the mouth. You speak them. So, while you're saying the requests have been received with great love here, before surrendering all these sticky, sticky things in certain... and they are... this is very nice. You want me to read it out to everyone? Still, then, to work. You want me to read out what you've written, or it's... you can. It isn't a deliberate... unless you realize it, you just don't see that you're living as a concept. We are just so used to always relating to the mind as ourselves.

Ananta

I love so much what you're visiting, but you always say that all is all. All confusion is about the 'I.' At the root of all confusion is confusion about the 'I.' At the root of all suffering is confusion about the 'I.' Thank you all so much for being in satsang today. Guru Sri Mooji Baba Ki Jai. Guru Sri Ananta Ji Ki Jai.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.