Ashtavakra Gita Chapter 8 Commentary and Contemplation - 15th August 2017
Saar (Essence)
Ananta teaches that bondage is the mind's habit of accepting or rejecting experiences through a limited personal identity. He guides seekers to drop the 'crutches' of mental concepts to discover their natural, effortless state as God.
When we bind to the story of the mind... we take a limited perspective about ourselves.
When there is no 'I', there is only liberation; when 'I' appears, bondage appears with it.
You are neither enhanced nor diminished by what is moving up and down; you remain untouched.
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A progenitor chapter on bondage and liberation. When the mind desires, grieves, accepts or rejects, is pleased or displeased, this is bondage. When we bind to the story of the mind, including an idea of what enlightenment should be in the greater limited standpoint, a limited perspective about ourself, so be without a reference point or a position. A momentary standpoint, completely perfect. And I feel like it's a bit unsteady; you walk in for a bit, bit shaky.
Another example could be that suppose at a very young age you were told that to walk you have to use crutches. Nothing is pitching from whatever crutches he is attaching the fact. So you were told that to exist, to live, or to live value, you need to cut total of the points system. So then you can feel like everything else will appear in my crutches, to the greater crutch, improve my tones. We don't know cure with zombie, then we continue to shillelagh on basis of my question. Then you came across one who says, 'Why use crutches?' You see, it goes without that. I am touching somebody tails, I am willing to experiment. Good that I am willing to check whether it is possible for life to continue. Not very nice way without researching, I'll yell open to them. Thank you, because you can constantly being told that without these crutches you are finished. Thank you, we'll finish. Responsibility is gone, we will not be able to get out of bed.
So come across someone so grateful. Girl comes up all mad and easy, searches for fifty fever, leave the facility. I am fine. In fact, you start to float a little bit. Not only are you just walking, you actually talk to, you can start to float. Then the mind convinces it is only the Guru holding your hand. What I hear every day, vehicle now and in Satsang, 'I am fine, I am able to let go of my thoughts, open it.' I leave such key like that. You can feel like this with the presence of the Master has to be there for us to tour touching. Master-sized focus, leave it for some more time. Play like this for a while when I'm holding on. You see this notable moving. If you can come by, they start to flow the bit to find your feet on a skate example video. If you like with it, a steady. So it might feel like you're falling; actually you're learning to fly.
Waiting who of these virtues the news time that is no longer live as usual. Imitates that is emitted ideas about yourself. You can find that only God is within that God. You finally got edgy there buddy God. This world war negative that there is gone. God is difficult itself. Those hands the way of you she wants to. So can we leave the crutches at pythons? Are we willing to? Are willing to experience the fear without fear welcome? If I feel like a fear of death, it might be like a fear of dissolution. And if you like anything substantial that I've held on to is ding floating away, I'm telling you that it is rural fit completely with it. Oh, crutches worth your time anymore. Not too clear that way, it is fine to play that way.
Now I want to tell all this, you like, oh, thing will happen to your life. Or let me put it another way: really that which is auspiciousness will happen to you. Nobody in Guruji says nobody has comfortable discovery of yourself and I said, 'No, no, no, I don't want this, give me the Inca van.' Nobody is that okay. 'I don't want this l-3 evaluation please, I'd rather have million dollars instead to be a sec you.' If you could get in them anyway, I do, I don't think all the things is over the centuries at least a few would have said, 'Okay, okay, take this back, give me my money or give me the best relationships.' Nobody answered. And you are now fifteen miles to reality in many example.
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Where the example of Nachiketa who wants to find the inverter truth, that which is beyond this. The Lord of Death itself convinces goodness and we can do the best life, we do most funny is that best relationships, the best single. And then to keep a tape with this question: 'Okay, if that is beyond, can you show me that? Because whatever else you give usually come and go, and you give me something which which will not come in move.' It is only this because I know, know they'll be a live one and I was at to do the mystery. I spent so many years looking for the doll and I came to the discovery and with 164 videos on them in our initial recognition. The mind can come and get the picture of it, the batteries and that would be checked is nothing. So they cannot nothing in that way that I keep stressing this point. It's really no thing which is soft enough. Everything that you cannot find ourselves learning, longing for info. I wonder if normal you the hell peace impede or dismissed you.
My mind does not desire, really accept or reject, be complete or displeased, liberation is at hand. So then should we which for this time? You know these kind of scene, sometimes they are pointing to something else but we need to make a mess in the Sun. If we keep waiting for a time where the mind will come to this kind of stage, you can keep waiting forever. Oh, to the pointing. The pointing is to fit now in this moment. You're empty of position. Actually is empty of all of the grievances and desires and OTO xl+ celebrate the time right now. We will start think about it. We are empty of all of you. Every moment starts like this. You might um how to defuse it. Every moment we are empty of all condition like all the vitamins in taken away. Actually Vince before you buy a part about yourselves. Thank you for the story incompletion which is created. The duration is the time now opening.
Don't listen. The first changes forms don't change. Don't expect the quality of a mind to change in the movie. This moment are you not see of it? I suppose the mind come me moment they're two cells do the next so G and the basis of wasted on your changing like you picked up all the flowers conditions with what about sight or wait for Safavids of the remaining two seas. Don't wait for the mind time Gustav see what is true now. Oh is it effective here? Who are you? Who you will at one moment perform contingent will get to be one moment exist when you will do like, 'Oh, I want to use that embel, I want to come to the recognition of this since I want to do this.' That moment conjecture now I'm telling you that this is that you. We have some terrible internet David before the moment after this is the moment of truth and you had only one choice and the only choice you have those two. I don't believe what the mind is telling you about yourself or catechu oppose the actress choice or choice would you mean you you so concerned by nominal appearances that you would leave this moment of truth and buying to the story of the faults the cat is never was.
One serum memory shear since that there is no difference between board Goodwin and sense. So the Master is telling you that it is completely possible. I was still going follow a being who is saying what the mind the thing a one return that if you feel like you have a choice and your only choice is whether to go along with the stream of thoughts or not. And one day you will recognize that even this toys away degrees but as long as it feels like you have some choice in anything it'll make this new choice.
If your mind is attached to any experience, this is bondage. When the mind is detached from all experience, with liberation. Although attached to an experience you thinking pointed Clark so for the next it can happen. Suppose all the chatter is over, believe me some super labels thing then I'll to attach to it and thought will come saying what you want to keep teaching. So then what happens is that in this 'I want to keep it, I want this to be the way it is me,' this is my experience and I want this experience to always be mine. So in this playoff me and mine that actually same thing is there for the opposite which is aversion will super flip side of desire. It is desire with another name. What is the version which didn't happen and something this I don't want this also who say I don't want to but even that the meaning still there now saying that this I definitely don't know the great experiences to life I must only have the opposite end of the spectrum.
We feel like Aiko so then our life to come this ording pain and learning towards pleasure in our central city with a basic infant of life form in England with is attached to this good to see who did the safety you want a shoulder solution use the our queen who is moving up and down you are neither enhanced nor definition right what are you remain untouched then we are not finding a certain non-fictional a other one and everything is Michael the sense of openness it is tools to help us get to this openness. If you've been blessed by Underwood and Sons and something comes up I confirm looks like always welcome if you like the King Testament and we like to understand everything then we who is the sufferer who is enjoyable to succeed if there are Ananta here who's suffering or enjoying any accidents and that which is a true boring experience if it affected in reality by the content of the take speed.
Let's either one at this surrender learning path and so he also meant or both and then years ago I read turbine are at buk missiles with something stuck with me even now not much is stuck actually to the users maybe some wayward we start which is that treat everything is not going to blow whatever it might be whatever the content of very experienced Miami is no that's not going to the ball. I think the obey sticks again still worse experience desire and she like success becomes this idea that I must have only this illusion becomes the idea that I must for taxes and everything is offering to the law is an eatable it's for me and nothing less for me than the idea of me it sells turns to do goals when it starts like this like the other thing with your friends or someone came and she said see absurd I really get much of photo saying can you give me some simple idea from symposium I think what is it that you enjoy she says I like to create sometimes if I remember correctly paraphrasing where I like to pray sometimes the back is very good I use stay with that and you notice how your fear will move clear might start with saying is God I'm going to you please take care of my life and as this trail continues and it changes into a slaughter and cling to you but do with this life as you want and it progresses to that who is praying and that was being played to and only you my life all of this is your face.
So even in the circle process even use except a part of Taylor pollution you can come to this truth there is only one there are no - so whatever part you pick a zombie the longing in the heart is for the truth and you are not lying to yourself yeah I would say really longing with the heart is for the truth. Second quality I would add is will move on the line q90 ourselves mean do this like when to self denial or self a grande grande ization which is Steve direct insight they are not making a fancy idea or I'm waking up on over the ideas hard to moving for the truth and you can walk on anyone nothing here with this has to be distant anything that you do this one thing and you do it with the integrity as Maharaj is to see it's integrating it see with the truth of your direct experience the tangible or categories I do.
If the mind is attached to any extent this is bondage and the mind is detached from all experience this is liberation. What does this mean? This means that it becomes like a light list say we squared become very is very the end something detached means that we keep this mantra 'what's in it for me' out of the inclusion in are looking at thing that they it is for me you this what can I get out of this experience can I keep this forever we keep the me out of this this C is what it is often I speak about this that the first time I saw plan it's very late in life I think many flowers is using for the first time I saw it without an interpretation and the judgment it felt like I
Let's say we become very detached. Detached means that we keep this mantra 'What's in it for me?' out of the equation. We are looking at things as they are. Usually, it is 'For me, what can I get out of this experience? Can I keep this forever?' We keep the 'me' out of this. This seeing is what it is. Often I speak about this, that the first time I saw a plant very late in life—I think many of you have heard this—for the first time I saw it without an interpretation and a judgment, it felt like I'm seeing it for the very first time. You start to experience the world in this way. It will be comprised of a vibrancy and the wonder of it. We learn to keep that effect. This coming in didn't bother us; it doesn't get beliefs. Okay, it's so much energy. Even now, you sitting here, we don't need interpretation. Just to find it sitting here talking about freedom on the day of India's independence, people from all over the world, both this command of this technology thing, talking about something that supposedly happened thousands of years ago. This conversation happened between the King and the Sage. We are reliving that after some thousands of years, looking in this special way.
So once we give it without this layer of interpretation, if this layer of talkative mind is not there, then you see God. Actually, the other day we got this video again, one of my favorites. The two disciples of Papaji had been to see God, or the details of the story of his child. How would you know? It was so clear to her that what is here is God. We extend that God to a certain shape. So when she said, 'Okay, you do this on the weekend or tomorrow,' something like that, then Papaji said, 'Actually, why wait at all? What do you see now?' This one says, 'I don't see God.' So Papaji says, 'Do not doubt. Don't get out.' So Papaji told her, 'What is here?' I suppose I'll do some twenty percent agree. This presence of your being, be here now, is God. God hasn't changed the world exactly, but the interest sort of disappears because many times we look for an appearance beyond it. The concealer toward you becomes very boring, more lectures or something like that. In contact, I don't see the true sense of you in this phenomenal appearance. We start to be when you taste it for what it is, while tasting itself.
Last words for today: 'When there is no I, there is only liberation. When I appears, bondage appears with it. Knowing this, it is effortless to refrain from accepting and rejecting.' When there is no I, only liberation. If I appears, bondage appears with it. Knowing it is effortless to refrain from accepting and rejecting. So the term 'I' is very confusing. We learn for you, I do find it best that you can use 'I'. 'I' can be applied to various things. We apply it to this body, we apply it to the mind, we even apply it to our attention. 'Oh, I'm sorry, I was driving but I was somewhere else actually.' But the attention is over there. Attention you apply to being 'I am that I am' and we also apply it to the Absolute. All right, fine. Now what does this Sage mean when 'I' appears? Therefore, it must be that changing 'I' what he means. Clearly, the biblical sense of individuality is what he means. So 'I' is most often applied to this center person, to this strange combination of an 'I' to some strange combination of body and mind together. We know such activity there, but it feels like a valid entity besides. This is what the Sages call the sense of a separate existence. Besides, when this 'I' appears, then bondage appears. But what is just appearance? It's like the appearance of this 'I' is just my patience.
How is it that we can buy this idea of individuality? I think you guys are right through them. If the task was to do it, the task was to suffer, we are feeling like we are missing it without plenty of suffocation. So if the project now is the reverse, which is how do you apply, how do you go to identification? The vehicle of belief and identification is on which the mind is one stage of 'I'. There is no person without belief in this way. Then we bind to the idea of our individuality and what this is for. Bound to it here, and we remain empty of this belief, we cannot suffer. We can't be that. No one can suffer without thinking about it. And I'm not even saying you have to withdraw your attention from thoughts. If the attention feels like it is going to a hard time either way, as your belief is more and more withdrawn, you will find that attention also doesn't get so attracted. That feeling that thoughts are so magnetic. Some of you, especially those who are new, might feel like there's a 'but, but, something, something, something' which is relevant or true for you. Then don't believe the next one. We might get a thought with the thing, but something will see a projection about the future, a concern, a real security, something just like that. Ashtavakra is saying, 'What will you do without being able to buy?' I'm saying to a wall a little bit. You say the reason behind everything will be taken care of.
So moving away from acting for this world as an ego thing, away from the sense of experiencing as a relative you, to come into this and just be. You being effortless existence. Many times thoughts go like this: 'Without me, will you be able to do what you tell them? What's going to happen to you? You're just going to make a mess of your life. You'll follow this order, you'll be done for this fashion.' Because of it so far, it's like knowing this, it is effortless to refrain from accepting and rejecting. What does it mean, this is effortless? Let this 'I' come and go. 'I' thoughts come and go with acceptance towards rejecting. Before the letting go is an emotion. So it is verse chapter 8 where they discussed a contrast between bondage and liberation.
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