Ashtavakra Gita Chapter 19 Commentary and Contemplation - 15th September 2017
Saar (Essence)
Ananta guides seekers to use the 'thorns of truth' to remove the 'thorn of thinking,' eventually discarding all concepts—even spiritual ones like unity or awareness—to abide naturally in the glory of the Self.
With the tongs of truth, I have plucked the thorn of thinking from the innermost cave of my heart.
Abiding is your natural state; you have to make an effort to pose as if you are the person.
Even talking about truth is irrelevant. I rest in the Self alone.
contemplative
Transcript
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With the thorns of clothes... this is God saying. A little bit these things happen. You see, we spoke about this with the thorns of truth. 'I have plucked the thorn of thinking from the innermost cave of my heart. With the thorns of truth, I have plucked the thorn of thinking from the innermost cave of my heart.' Exactly what we just discussed there. Where is meditation, pleasure, prosperity, or discrimination? Where is duality? Where even is unity? I abide in the glory of Self.
So all of these are now falling into the non-applicable. Should you meditate or not? Not applicable. In the appearance, meditation put a few... oh no. As where I say, no, before enlightenment: chopping wood, fetching water; after enlightenment: chopping wood, fetching water. Or not. 'Or not' is very important. Where is meditation, pleasure, prosperity, or discrimination? What was this discrimination? This discrimination was not how it is usually used in the world. This discrimination was to check between that which is real and unreal. To find that which is unchanging is real; that which changes is an appearance.
But now, although that was useful to use—'not this, not this, not this, not this'—because that is still the realm of change, but now coming to this recognition, do we need to not lose anything? Everything is accepted as is, and yet you know that your reality is much more, but beyond that. So 'not this' is a very beautiful tool to bring some focus to what you really are, but this sage is not spending the rest of his life saying 'I am not.' The tool served its purpose. And the purpose of what? 'I have plucked the thorn of thinking from the innermost cave of my heart.' That is the purpose of all this spiritual pointing. They all have this one purpose.
Where is duality? Where even is unity? I abide in the glory of Self. 'Where even is unity' is a very important point because although we might say 'I am that one awareness,' actually it is more accurate to say 'I am that not-two awareness.' It's Advaita. Because when we come to the discovery of the Self, it is not 'one.' Because if there was 'one,' there may be the concept of 'one.' Is this a tool? If there can be something which is one, it is possible for there to be two in account. So it's not an objective discovery at all. There is not an object which is just that one. It is empty of all objective quality. Now oneness also... oneness is a beautiful way to point to that, which means that the discovery is not of one.
Where is past and future, or even present? Where is space or even eternity? I abide in the glory of Self. Time and space... and many times we are open to this. For either the space is just a projection of consciousness, because we feel that it is consciousness also. Consciousness of dreams, consciousness of imagination. Memory is something that never happened. You might have... there might be ten of you and you might have a very clear image or memory of something that happened; the other nine might see you saying, 'This never happened.' So this whole projection ability of consciousness—dreams, imagination—you are able to accept that about space, but many times we are unable to accept it about time. But then you find that time and space is actually one. It's one space of experience in the space of your existence, your Being.
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That which witnesses this appears, this changes. So for that which is changeless, there is no time. Time is the version of change. That which is changeless is beyond time. Where is past and future, or even present? Where is space or even eternity? I abide in the glory of Self. And then: where is Self? Where is not-self? Where is good and evil, confusion and clarity? I abide in the glory of Self.
Where is Self and even not-self? This is Ashtavakra Gita Chapter 19. After so many chapters about Brahman, now not even Brahman. Why? Because the sages know that even this most pristine pointing can become positions. How many have we seen in this Advaita path which are just 'I am awareness'? 'What would you like for lunch?' 'I am awareness.' It's like Groot in Guardians of the Galaxy. You have to say anything to them: 'Awareness.' Even awareness or even Self can become like a position. Even this, don't hang on to it conceptually.
So although he starts the verse with 'Where is Self? Where is not-self? Where is good and evil, confusion and clarity? I abide in the glory of Self,' Self does not have to be held on to conceptually when we are empty of concepts. Where is sleeping? Where is dreaming, waking, or even the fourth state? Where is fear? I abide in the glory of Self. Sleeping, dreaming, waking—all of them come and go. Even Turiya comes and goes. If this itself comes and goes, you know this is going to go tonight. Ultimately, even if you feel like sleep is only a temporary state and you feel like there's a depth which is the permanence to it, ultimately it's coming. So this is going to go.
What did the sage say right from the very beginning? Focus on that which is unchanging. So we are still trying to sort out something in the changeful realm because that's the only way the mind can function. But that which is beyond the instruments... who are you in your sleep state that observes that there is nothing there? The witness of that nothing. What nothing? This is nothing. And what nothing witnesses all things? Where is close or far, in or out? All settled. I abide in the glory of Self.
So all these concepts of time and space, objects within time and space—now you see that you are beyond this entire verse. Verse 7, Chapter 19: Where is life and death? Where is the world and worldly relations? Where is distraction and stillness? I abide in the glory of Self. We just talked about this. All these tales are waking, dreaming, Turiya, life, death. Who are they for? Who witnesses them? Is that touched by them? Notice now that the mind will run out of tricks. Now every single concept of yourself which the mind uses to convince you of your limitations is being swept away.
You are neither this nor that. You are neither in time nor in space. You are neither free nor liberated. Neither the doer nor the non-doer. Not the enjoyer, not the experiencer. You are this Self. And this abiding is your natural state. Because you are the Self, abiding is your natural state. You don't have to try and abide. When you are doing this also, 'I am trying to abide as the Self'—oh, how? It's your natural state. You don't have to try to be natural. But you have to try and be unnatural. You have to make an effort to pose as if you are the person. To make that effort to pose as if you are an entity, the identity. How do you make this effort? By giving belief to that which is meaningless. This power of belief belongs to you as consciousness. Consciousness chooses to play as if it is limited when it believes the idea that 'I am something.'
There is no need to talk about the three ends of life. To talk of yoga is purposeless. Even talking about truth is irrelevant. I rest in the Self alone. This is the ultimate 'shut up.' Obviously, be quiet. There's no need to talk about the three ends of life. The talk of yoga is purposeless. Even talking about truth is irrelevant. I rest now. The only thing I will say, at the risk of upsetting the Master, would be to mistake the total silence of this mouth for the silence that will be helpful. So the true silence is this absence of egoic belief. Then nothing has to be said. When we need a concept to establish a false position for yourself, the truth will not be the concept. So empty of concepts, with no need to speak, no need for any proclamation and the judgments. Even talking about truth is irrelevant. I rest in Self alone. Okay, finished Chapter 19.
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