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Ashtavakra Gita Ch. 18, Vs. 39-43 Commentary and Contemplation - 4th September 2017

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Ananta teaches that peace is found not by controlling the mind, but by remaining as the unconcerned space in which thoughts come and go. He emphasizes intuitive self-insight over intellectual concepts and beliefs.

The fool thinks peace comes by controlling the mind; the wise one knows truth and is stillness itself.
Don't try to change the quality of the mind; let it come and go like visitors in a room.
From 'I don't know' to clarity is easy; the journey from conceptual 'knowing' to truth is torturous.

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Ananta

The fool thinks peace comes by controlling the mind. The fool thinks peace comes by controlling the mind; he will never attain it. The wise one knows truth and is stillness itself. The fool thinks peace comes by controlling the mind; he will never attain it. The wise one knows truth and it is stillness itself. Don't try to rule the mind. Don't try to change the quality of the Maya. Let the mind come and go. If you are the space in this room, are you concerned about what is the kind of visitors you're getting here? The space in this room, this space has no opinion on the quality of its visitors. You are that space which is beyond this space. You are untouched by any of this play of the mind. Just let it come and go.

Ananta

Trying to change the mind is another trick of the mind. It might have its place in some other spiritual paths, but on this direct path, find that the simplest approach is just to let it come and let it go. Don't try to control it. If I ask you, can you predict what your next thought is going to be? Some have even said yes. I never ask this question. Can you create a thought? Can you predict what your next thought will be? You see, we've been conditioned to believe that it is yes, but what do you do? We wait for the thought to come and then you report on it. Is it so? The thoughts are just coming and going, and if you are attached to the idea that 'my thoughts have to become pure, my thoughts have to become something, I have to control my mind,' then when it comes—hello, I'm still here, impure, harsh, impure thought—then what will you believe about yourself? That you are still not free. You are still caught up in this cycle of birth and death. So whatever the thoughts might be, let them come.

Ananta

The fool thinks peace comes by controlling the mind; he will never attain it. Still attached to outcome, still attached to wanting this play to be a certain way. Then we leave this entire play to be exactly as it is, including the play of the body-mind, and find that your true position is that which is aware of all of this, yet unconcerned by it. Then the wise one knows the truth and is stillness itself. Then the thoughts don't disturb you. For he who thinks knowledge is things and ideas, how can there be self-knowledge? The wise do not see separate things, only the timeless Self. He who thinks knowledge is things and ideas, how can there be self-knowledge? The wise do not see separate things, only the timeless Self.

Ananta

What is meant by things and ideas? If you look around, you will see how the mind comes in and tries to label everything: computer, person, sofa, cushion. So it makes things out of this one appearance. This results in so much separation, but actually, your experience is of one appearance. You're only experiencing this one appearance. The idea of separation comes from the labels, comes from our interpretation. This is what I call the bad photocopy of our experience which the mind offers you. So you think that you know something in the external world as an objective knowing. And ideas—they can feel like you know something on the basis of what idea we have. 'I know what freedom is because I have read ten concepts about freedom.' You can feel like having the most or the best sounding concepts will give us some true knowledge. So everybody is looking for the best concept. What is the greatest concept? It has become very popular to say, 'Now I am awareness.' It can be a favorite concept. But now someone is going even beyond, even awareness and beyond. You think what? Just talking, just mental conceptual illusions or some sort of knowledge?

Ananta

And I said the other day, awareness is confirming itself even in its denial. It's confirming itself even in its denial. We say, 'Yes, there is no awareness,' but what we are actually meaning is, 'I am aware that there is no awareness.' So we feel like we know something. So the concepts that we have—and you can't really blame anyone for that because that is how we have been conditioned. You can feel like we are conditioned first with two plus two equals four; that was a lower concept. When you learn a higher concept, multiplication, two into two is equal to four. You learn division, all these higher and higher concepts. In every field of learning, you go from lower to higher concepts as you learn. If you're studying medicine, you learn about the body and all the organs in the body, then you zero in on the deeper concept, the higher concept: oh, how does the kidney function? How does the stomach function? How does the heart function? Then you zero in even further, go to the higher concept of all of these things. So we've been taught this way, that we must go to the higher and higher concept of things. But here it is opposite. You drop all your ideas about everything, especially about yourself.

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Ananta

He who thinks knowledge is things and ideas, how can there be self-knowledge? Is there a greater knowingness itself than this perceptual or conceptual knowing? What is aware of your existence? What knows your presence? The wise do not see separate things, only the timeless Self. The fool tries to control the mind with the mind. The fool tries to control the mind with the mind. What folly! The wise one delights in himself alone; there is no mind to master. What is the mind? We also use the word mind very often, but one said the mind is a bundle of thoughts. Simplest in many definitions of mind, but a very, very specific way to look at the mind is this: just a bundle of thoughts. Therefore, it is not a constant. There is a thought, we say there is mind. And when we are empty of thoughts, does any Buddhist call it no-mind? Now for the Self, mind or no-mind makes no difference. The wise one delights in himself alone; there is no mind to master.

Ananta

Some believe in existence, others believe nothing exists. Rare is the one who believes nothing and is never confused. Some believe in existence, others believe nothing exists. There is a deep message in this verse. There are many, many schools of thought about where even existence comes from, or what is existence, if there is something like existence. And all these ontological arguments, all of these things are dependent on: is there existence at all? Or actually, simply put, what is there now? Some can believe that there is, some believe there is nothing, there is no existence, it's just a void. Actually, blessed are those who believe nothing and yet are never confused. Exactly, the last part is important: you are never confused because you also meet many who are really fickle with their beliefs. So we're not talking about those people as fickle-minded, just switching their beliefs based on whichever room they're in because they are really not clear; they just want to fit in in some way or something like this. So we're not talking about these conclusions. We're talking about that which is empty of belief and yet he or she is never confused. They are never confused because they don't need to rely on the crutches of beliefs. They have their own insight which is present, which is undeniable. All concepts might fail us, but your truest insights cannot fail you.

Ananta

Weak intellectuals may believe the Self is one without other, but being mired in illusion, they do not actually know Self, so live out their lives in misery. So if it is just intellectual belief—and so as we started today's satsang by saying—just the idea 'I am the Self' and to believe that is not enough. It must be your intuitive insight. And this intuitive insight is completely possible using the tools of inquiry, the truths that are present in these beautiful scriptures. Just the belief will not do now. Just the concept 'I am That' will not do. It must translate into your seeing, the pure seeing. Many times I've said that it is to come from our conceptual knowledge to 'I don't know.' It seems to be the longer journey, this fear of admitting that we don't know and finally coming to that point of surrendering and saying, 'I just don't know.' That seems to be the longer part of the journey. From 'I don't know' to this clarity of inner insight is very, very easy, very simple. From 'I know something' to the capital K Knowing will be the most torturous journey. If you're empty, then the recognition is just here. If the inner intuitive presence has to fight constantly with the voice of limitation, with your mind, then it can seem like a journey with great struggle. And consciousness could decide to play either way, but just as it is pointing these things out to itself, some clarification can happen.

Ananta

Weak intellectuals may believe the Self is one without other, but being mired in illusion, they actually do not know Self, so live out their lives in misery. And so I spoke about suffering the other day, and why not wake up on that? We keep speaking about small suffering. Those who have come to the truth have let go of the idea of the individual sufferer. You and their average you, then we see what is our true insight. And he reported this event and something, this was happening in my life, I was fighting with my partner and all these ideas about 'I am awareness' and 'I am consciousness, unlimited being,' all this went out the window. First thing wrong with this, people, is it is not digested as a simple knowing, as a simple knowingness. If it is only conceptual, then this idea of the individual sufferer can continue. In fact, it might even become worse because the conflict might even seem deeper if there are two beliefs now, both having equal position: that I am the Self, I am awareness untouched by this play of the world, and I am a person which is completely involved and burdened with these desires as the doer. True separation actually took place, you see? Then it can seem like there's even more struggle in the conflict between these two beliefs. It seems to crush us more and more. Sometimes it's better if you have to have a concept and pick up this and some slowly, unless you're using these pointers as reminders for your own checking, for your own inquiry, for your own insight. Then just please leave it, it's better.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.