You ARE Awake - 23rd April 2015
Saar (Essence)
Ananta clarifies that we are already fully awake and only pretending to be a person. He distinguishes temporary awakening experiences from true liberation, which is the permanent cessation of belief in the individual ego.
The only thing that is dark is the pretense of being asleep.
An awakening experience is not a prerequisite to freedom; it is just another experience.
The truth must be ever-present. I am not interested in a truth that comes and goes.
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Transcript
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So my question was, you please awaken the dreamer fully? Yes, you are fully awake. Fully awake now, completely, always awake. The only thing that is dark is the pretense of being asleep. This question was: what does it feel, what does it mean to be awake? To be awake only means that we are not pretending to be a person. Now, an awakening—awakening is different. Awakening is an experience, which means that in the presence of the Master, in the presence of some strong being, there can be this wiping out of this person idea on its own. It just seems like, coming into the presence of Satsang, you look into the eyes of the Master and it seems like the 'I' which I always believed myself to be just vanished. You can find no difference between yourself and anything; that's an awakening experience. But an awakening experience is not a prerequisite to freedom. It's just another experience. It doesn't come to stay.
Now, the fact that you are awake is always true. We're only pretending to be a person. And an awakening experience can come and go. There's no convincing there. An experience, whatever it might be, can never be permanent. That's so. For the Master, it just happened that the mind, which seemed to have so much power earlier, now seemed to have no power. It has no game. Point zero zero zero one percent of the power it used to have. So it cannot push you into this pretense. That's the only difference. He is not living in some other state. A sage is not in some other state. The sage is always saying that 'I am the same as you.' It's only that I am not giving any power to these thoughts which are coming.
Yes. How does it... in your own presence, it's lover's dream. Okay, you say incredible love in his presence. Where do you feel the love from, inside or outside?
Inside. So this presence externally is only a reminder of your true presence inside. That's right. The Satguru, the true Satguru, is always inside. But in this play, you find that once we're in this presence all the time and not giving any power to the mind, it seems to have this energetic way of pulling out the same in you. This is true even for negative emotions, isn't it? If you are around somebody who's angry, then you find yourself also... something is pulling those energies up. The same way it works. So in the presence of those who are not deluded by the mind, we will automatically find the sense of peace, sense of love, your sense of joy. But it's still coming from inside.
What is permanent is that I can't imagine giving so much importance to the person idea. Just like you've seen that the sun appears from the east, then you cannot give belief to the idea that the sun comes from the west, because your own experience is that. You were never this person. And can you ever truly believe that person again? You cannot. Once you've clearly seen that you are not this person, you can never truly believe. No personal belief can go momentarily; that's all that happens. So that is liberation. That is freedom.
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So an awakening experience is not freedom. It's an experience where you realize all of a sudden that here there is no person. The 'I' which I always believed myself to be just doesn't exist. See, in that moment you could see. But the trouble with awakening experiences is that if after it is over you say, 'Oh, I am special because this happened to me,' then you picked up the person again.
A little sensory input of money and I was slipping into this sound, full of saying somebody would say a beautiful man, you think that I like they connect. Yes, correct. I just felt, you know, it's alternate. And then driving home one day, I was lying suddenly, so the bush came prepared. Oh no, thousand nothing, me not matter. It was just... what kind of experience is that? What need to give you the nice guy? I'm not looking for even this forgettable. It's nothing.
So it's called transition. He said whatever is, is gone now. Just forget. Why does it happen? To endorse that, okay, these kind of states do exist. Yes, maybe. I don't want to give more fuel to this interest in that list because those... these are... they come and go as well. All that is coming and going is not you. You are still the witness of whatever the content might be. Most blissful experience, the near-death, the out-of-body, the awakening, the Kundalini, the chakras, the everything—just a play of appearance. So any phenomena is not it. It is not you. So this mind looking for enlightenment, and it's clearly this one you leave that... actually kick here. Yeah, the one that is looking for enlightenment, forget about drawing. Are you okay with that?
Yeah, I'm okay. Ready, right? I don't want to... the thing is not truth. Any quiz, I'm seeking the truth.
Yes. My presence must be here now. If I always say that I'm not interested in your truth which is coming and going, what value would that be? The truth must be ever-present, must be here now. What is here now? Being is here. And are you aware of it all the time now? He's more yes, but there are always awareness of something or the other. Awareness is ever-present here.
I'm mostly coming with expectation to make it smooth.
But I'm saying you're awake. But this must reconcile. He said that he is saying that we come with the expectation that you will wake up, and when I say, 'But you're awake,' the answer doesn't sound satisfactory. So what will convince you of your freedom? You can say it could be fireworks, it could be something for me.
My awake, my wrong... our conditioning onto that. I will feel our one year anniversary, feel one with everybody, one with everything, and that's that is love. That's fine. My condition is metric and gentleness and this is 'I'.
He said that 'I will be convinced of my freedom if I feel that I am one with the universe, I am one with all, great love for everyone.' So then it must be asked, since you said 'I' three times, who is this 'I'? 'I' is the 'I am'. This 'I am'... no, no. Now this is a person. Yes, as always, it's personal. The imaginary one cannot be one with anything. How can something which is imagined be one with anything? With this one, you say that which is I-am-ness, you...
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