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Where Is the One That Has Any Problem? - 27th October 2017

October 27, 201712:2731 views

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Ananta guides seekers to recognize their natural, effortless existence while investigating the reality of the 'me'. He reveals that suffering and problems are non-applicable when the presumed individual entity cannot be found in the right now.

Existence is natural and effortless, unsupported by any phenomena, energy, or mental concept.
Pain is an energetic movement in consciousness, but suffering requires the presumption of a 'me' to whom it happens.
The 'me' that could have a problem is as non-existent as a necklace on a blue cat.

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Transcript

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Ananta

See that you exist. This existence, but you are there. You're not even talking about 'me'. What that 'you' is, that is there, not anything. But if I say, 'Do you exist right now?' it doesn't matter whether there is a scream, and the answer 'yes' does not come from a concept that 'I have to exist'. It is just so naturally so. This is what is meant by natural, effortless, natural, not cropped up, unsupported by any phenomena, unsupported by any concept, unsupported by any energy. That existence is here. So here we are just checking, empty of all these concepts that you might know, anything that we might know even about the Satsang and what is shared here. And I say, 'Do you exist?' If you do, without a mental concept of existence, you are here. So here we can converge to start with.

Ananta

Now, if we were to define pain as something which just comes naturally—it comes and goes—but suffering as something which requires a sense of something happening to 'me'. So pain is just the energetic experience of a movement in consciousness, but suffering means that there is a 'me' which is involved. 'Why does this happen to me? I hope this doesn't continue until tomorrow because I have something important.' So irrespective of whatever energetically might be appearing now within this existence, can I suffer in this very moment? Is there a 'me' here who has a life, who has a plan, who has grievances, who has resentment, who has pride, who has humility, who has regret? Right here, right now, only through your direct insight, the same way that you have been checking to find the one that has any problem.

Ananta

Experiences also keeping it there, as well as they distinguish between pain and suffering. We said pain is an energetic, odd commotion; all of this is there. But is there an owner, an individual owner of this problem? And if there is, where is that one? What does it look like? If there is a problem with the relationship, or there is a problem with money, or any problem, even the freedom problem, where is the one that has that one? You? The body isn't concerned about money. Emotions towards money cannot touch any of this.

Ananta

Where is the one that has any problem in the openness, the nakedness of the right now, empty of any mask? If you are not presuming anything at all, then you're just looking. Do you find this one? Thought is labeling a certain 'why'. Why it's true is because the 'me' which could have the problem itself is not there. See, this is important to see because the 'me' has remained as a presumption. You can rely on our knowledge; it says, 'Now this part I know, of this I don't.' So when we are looking now, we are actually doing the audit and seeing whether there is such an entity there.

Ananta

So if there is no such entity there, then what can it have? Including a problem, it cannot have, because there is no such entity there. What color is the necklace of the... look at on that table, like that necklace of the blue cat on the table? So non-existent. So that's way more important to see: how there is no necklace hint is to see that there is no blue cat at all. Then the possibility of the necklace itself is taken away. You see what I'm saying? If there was a 'me' and you find that there actually can be no problem for this 'me', it's a nice pointing, you see. But to see that there is no 'me' like that at all which could have that accessory called a problem is that it cannot have any such possibility.

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Ananta

But as long as there... if there was a limited, if there was an individual 'me', then maybe you feel today, 'Okay, God is taking care of all my problems,' something like that. But then tomorrow it could feel like, 'What is testing me with?' So we can switch from perspectives about having a problem or not, but as long as the 'me' idea is still there... so we are really exploring the root of this thing. Is there such a one which is here right now? Thoughts seem to appear, words seem to appear, emotions seem to appear, pain seems to appear, but the one that is concerned about relationship or security or how life should be, how I should be perceived—all of these things—one can we find? Exactly. That's how we come to the 'not applicable'.

Ananta

Can you come to that? That is actually not applicable. Emotionally in the world, of course, I can say, 'But...' but actually it does not apply when you see that there is no such 'me' here and to see that it is a presumption. And we are going to get into now how that presumption comes about. So can everybody see that there is no such 'me' inherently in this now? Here and now, you cannot find this 'me', you see? Right here and now.

Ananta

Let's take a simpler example. Where is the one that has or had any concern about the security, money, the state of the world, any of these things? Do you find this one? And what is the shape or size of this one? 'I exist'—this was almost what you said, yes? Effortless. And now we are looking for that one. It's a fourth-chance problem. We're looking for even the seeker who is seeking freedom. I need the one that has any sort of lack. In your naturalness, right here and now, will you come across such an entity? Is there such an entity? Do you find the limited one, the one that has any boundary at all?

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.