Whatever You Take to Be True Will Be Burned In This Fire of Satsang

And just by virtue of you considering yourself to be spiritual doesn't mean that the burning will feel like a bed of roses. No, it's still going to burn, and maybe even more intensely because you have asked for it. You have said, 'Burn the false,' and it has to burn. Because when a child is holding on to their rattle so strongly, you see, but the rattle is now infected with disease and the parent snatches the rattle out of their hand, no child feels like, 'Oh, my parent is helping me.' The same way, we hold on to false identity thinking that is helpful. Nobody also believes thinking it's false; they think it's true. All the beliefs that we have, we only consider to be true, isn't it?

So whatever you take to be true will be burnt in this fire of satsang. You think up is up and down is down, and you think up is up and down is down—it is going to burn. If you think yesterday was yesterday and tomorrow is tomorrow, that is what you take to be true. You take yourself to be somebody that is at the center of all your narratives. If all of your spiritual journey is about you, that is going to burn, and may burn fast. The one who is seeking God, may that burn. Because that one's word for what was self-serving... we know your self-serving: 'God, please help me.' So on which side of the equation is truth and what side is false? 'God, please help me.' The first is true or the second? God is true or 'me' is true? Okay, I need to wake up.

How can you tell that they are a spiritual seeker or not a spiritual seeker? No, you can't. Body is body, unless they are dressed in a religious way or something. No. Then what happens when you talk to them? They have a belief, and they may express that belief saying, 'I'm looking for God. I'm looking for the Self.' You see? So now the 'I' that is looking and the one that is looked for both can't be true, because this is Advaita after all. There are no two, you see. So either the one that is looking is false, or the one that is looked for is false.

How is her praying different and saying, 'God for me'? How do we pray? What is the prayer? If I say, if I am doing something... so if I'm doing something, I'm going to start something new, I will say, 'Father, please help me do it.' If someone is ill, then I say, 'Father, please take care of the other person. Yes, let them...' So all of that is it not... it's asking my will to be done. Yes. And that is why in some way that the highest prayer is 'Let Thy will be done.' You see?

Let me take an example of a prayer. If something concerns you, you see, one idea is... why is prayer helpful? Because the idea is that we can... it's bothering us. 'Oh, this girl is not liking me,' for example, right? 'I like her, she's not liking me,' right? So then you say, 'Ah no, no, but I'm the Self.' But you continue to be bothered by it. We're still believing into those notions. So we get into a sort of a denial about it rather than truly bringing it to God and say, 'I am being concerned with this. I am bringing it to you. I'm giving it to the light of my presence.' And if you have a strong desire about it, you may still say, 'I have this expectation, I have this desire which I am bringing to you. Do with it as you will, and as is your will. I'm attached to what I want in this situation, but give me the openness to surrender it at your feet.'

So to recognize the folly in wanting your will and to accept that this is where I am, and to bring it to God and request God's intervention in becoming open to God's will—it's beautiful because it is full of integrity. So what is the error? What is the error? The error is only that after coming into the presence of God, we still want to do things my way, or God's way, or the mind's way, or the individual's way. That is the error. If you are finding God, then follow God's will. If you are not finding God, then with every bit of might that you have, find God. But to find God and then follow 'my way'—it is the mind's way is there. And if you're still very attracted to that, you can bring it to God in your prayer so that you don't hide it away or push it under the carpet.

So the first step is to really find God. It can sound strange. The first thing, the first step is to find God. Where is God to be found? How to find God? Your being. As your being. As your being. How to find this being? Yes, but suppose the Self is not apparent. You can call your God who you like. Pointers, whatever. Spiritual pointer, spiritual inquiry, surrender, prayer, whatever. You can follow this scent of love in your heart. Where is it coming from? You can check whether you can stop being. Whose being is that? This is God's presence.

Because I don't want to have, especially today, I don't have the energy to have conceptual conversations and discourses on spirituality. I never have the energy for that. Are you finding it or no? That is the main thing. If you're not finding it, everything that you have must be in service to this discovery. All the pointers are available to you. All the tools are available to you. Once you are finding it, then surrender to that. It means only two things, which means to live moment to moment in the light of the presence, and secondly to follow if there is a clear expression of that will which is pointing us in some way. That's what it is to follow God's will. That's the simplicity of life.

But if you try to juggle it—'Oh, God can't handle my little life'—that is when we get into error again. We feel that I need to become individualistic about something. That is an error. Okay? So when I ask you, are you living in God's light? And even if you spend the next hundred lifetimes doing this, it'll be worth it. But if you spend the next hundred lifetimes in a zombie state of a lifeless life which is not energized, not shining in the light of God's light but in the ego shadow, in the mind's individuality, might as well not have lived at all.

And then when the mind tries to fake it by still being the primary, and therefore then everything is about me and God also is about me, then 'me' is the primary. Fake spirituality. Fake spirituality is when we are elevating the ego to such a point that even God must be in service to that. So to ask God for help is very different from, in the guise of wanting help, wanting your will to be done. Okay? Different.

Have you seen? Those of us who are parents have seen this in our kids in a very young age. By the time they are five or six years old, kids become master psychologists and manipulators. Yeah, they can use every trick in the book, everything. But there are times where the child will honestly ask you for help, and there are times where the child will try to get you to dance to their tune. You see, both can sound like prayers, but only one is a genuine prayer. Are you able to make this now? You see, there are times the children will say, 'If I say this to Papa, he will get like this, because all I have to do is make this face and say please.' You know, they're very good at that. Is it okay? But then as a parent, you always have a sense of it. But not always, mostly. You see, in our true parent, always has a sense, has a sense of it.

So we cannot... even if we're lying to ourselves, we can never lie to our heart. A pretend spirituality may fool even our mind, but it cannot fool... So if you say that you are spiritual, you must mean that your life is for God now, not the other way now. And how to make your life for God? Come to the presence, to the light of God, and allow that light to unfold this universe. Or if you take this body to be you, then allow this light to unfold this body as it will. At which step is there finding God? Be honest. This is the chance to really clarify. Yeah. At which step is that finding? Is finding the top? Okay, others like so much... yeah, it just gets taken over time to that.

Okay, so let's take it step by step. Are you present now? Are you present? What do you mean when you say 'I am present'? What else? 'I am here.' 'I am here.' What do you mean? Are you referring to the perception of a body being here? Is that what you mean? Look at this. When we say 'I am here,' I could look at the body and say, 'Yeah, I am the body, I am here.' But when we say 'I am here,' what are we referring to? Being in touch with, you know, the energy field, vibration, subtle vibrational, the sensor. Is that confirmation that I am dependent on what is being perceived, or independent of that? Is it... is the confirmation that I am independent of what is being perceived, or dependent on what is being perceived? Independent.

Does that presence... it's okay if you say presence, all of you are meeting... does that presence have a name inherently? I can go slower. Because my feeling is that even if this is the only satsang here, then you should be able to meet what I'm saying, because I want to make it really apparent. So does this presence have a name inherently? No. Does it have a form inherently? Are we checking and reporting? Oh, we know, I know, we know the right answer. The idea is to confirm. So this is actually a discovery that within you there is a presence that is nameless and formless. There is a very subtle view. Yes, very subtle feel, like a primordial vibration. Because you cannot say this is where it starts, this is where it is. Many of you like me may say it seems to have its core experience in the heart—of course not the physical heart, the heart of this. So isn't this an astounding discovery?

Are we checking and reporting? Oh, we know, I know, we know the right answer. The idea is to confirm. So this is actually a discovery: that within you there is a presence that is nameless and formless. There is a very subtle view, yes, yes, a very subtle feel, like a primordial vibration because you cannot say this is where it starts, this is where it is. Many of you, like me, may say it seems to have its core experience in the heart—of course, not the physical heart, the heart of this. So isn't this an astounding discovery? I take myself to be the body, I take myself to have a name, to have relationships, to have a house, to have family, to have money, all of that. But independent of all of this, all of you are claiming that there is a presence within you that is worth investigating, because you better find out what kind of presence it is.

Anyone like the animal can rewind and recap as much as you like. It's not so subtle for me. Whatever this is, it's very like—I can't describe it, but because the mind can't grasp it, I have a sense of it, yeah. So it doesn't stay there, you know, it runs away.

We come to the running away in a bit, but can you confirm when you check, is it there? Okay, see how fast it goes, and then stay with it. Tell me if it goes by itself. You don't go; see if it goes. Okay, it's okay. I can't control it. It's important, too, then keep your focus on this contemplation because my submission to you is that this presence is always available as long as you are awake. Your trouble is only in the waking state. So as long as you are awake, it is always there. So when I ask you, can you stop being? Try to not be. What do you notice then?

Strengthening, yes, yes. I don't think I find...

When I say, when I say can you stop being, it's an invitation to try. Not looking for a long-term answer. Try to not be is the question, really.

It's not important. It's not important if I think this is just a thought, not being. I just feel...

Anything that's happening in your mind or intellect is unimportant. We try to not be, not try to not think about not being. Actually, like, don't be. Even if it sounds absurd, impossible. Why is it impossible? On what basis do you make that claim? On what insight do you make that claim? Not just a thought, but can you find—or like, is your claim baseless because there is no thought confirming it? And there's no rush at all because here in this so-called spiritual journey that I had with Maharaj and 'I Am That,' I was probably quote-unquote stuck here for three years, almost maybe two years or three years, because he kept saying, 'Stay with the sense of being. Stay with the sense of being.' And I thought, 'What is the sense of being? I can't find it' for a long time, yeah. And then one day, just sitting in an auto-rickshaw going from here to the office, it became apparent and I was like, 'What? This is always here.' But before that, if somebody had told me it's always there, it would irritate me. But then when it was found, it's always there. It seemed like, how did I ever not have this?

So I'm completely open if you say, 'I wish in some at some point.' Of course, like just to say, there is somebody who told me, 'Can I stop being?' rather than trying to look for the being. That inversion may have helped in the looking, but I really can't confirm that, you see. I can't confirm that because all of this is coming when the light of presence is so apparent. So you have to say you try to stop being. We see that it is impossible. You see, it is very different from we thinking or knowing conceptually that it is impossible, isn't it? To have an insight that it is impossible is to realize that there is a palpable being, and its palpableness, although perceptually may be minimal, but its palpability intuitively is vast. It may sound like academic words. So what I'm saying is that although you may say that it's a very subtle experience of a feeling, but intuitively you experience this being much more than that. Is everyone still good here? Okay.

So I am saying, with whatever tool you may be experiencing your presence, your being, that is not important as long as you confirm that you are. Everyone together? I said to him that my submission is that it will not go, but you may go. And don't give the going, returning to the hypnosis of the mind, or not. So if you stay, it cannot go. It just becomes... so I also came up, it's just momentum and calm. Is the presence momentary, or is your lack of mental hypnosis momentary? Because if I propose to all of you that the presence is palpable as long as you are not under mental hypnosis, and even under mental hypnosis the presence is there but it does not seem to be, what would you say? Forget about the second part. First part?

Yes, yes.

The presence of your being, the presence of God's being, is always here and it is palpable as long as we are not under the hypnosis of a thought. That is where to be open and empty is just to be empty of the hypnosis. It's a conceptual emptiness, empty of concepts. Where God's light is, God's right here or not? Because that for me is the fundamental basis of our spirituality. Without that, there is no spirituality. In the moment where you're empty of your head, it means that individuality has been drawn. Horizon is apparent. Tell me if there's a step where you're stuck.

So at this stage, even the lose-ability of doing, even if the doing is telling you about... okay, but still to come to this point, anything stuck? We'll capture what happens after this. Even telling, 'No, I am losing it,' will take it to come to God's light, to come to the presence of me, whatever term you use. And there's so many terms: you may say Atma, you may say God's presence, you may say my presence, you may say beingness. And we'll evaluate the qualitative difference between being and beingness in a moment. But to come to beingness, although this may be the first step in our spirituality, this becomes the foundation of a steady life in God, see?

And we've already come a long way from our mental spirituality, which is mostly just wanting things and wanting experiences and God to help us and having achieved code in life. Wherever, any time I get in trouble, I enter the cheat code and tada, sometimes, you see. So we've gone far away from that kind of spirituality into building the true foundation of a true life, of the only life worth living, which is in God's life. And I say that in reference to everything else being temporary and ephemeral, therefore passing away. So it's just the results. Nothing spectacular about it, but it's very clear, its presence. Listen, you have a presence within you. Isn't that spectacular? You thought you were a bundle of flesh. So, oh, why I'm not shouting at you? Why I'm just saying, look at the mind's interpretation of this. If a friend came to you before you were spiritual and said, 'There's a presence inside me,' you would say, 'You're losing your marbles. Is there something wrong with you?' Isn't it? So it's not nothing. You confirming quote-unquote within you there's a presence, isn't that absurd already? There's a presence, you see.

In spirituality, what happens to us is we become very jaded. 'Oh, God's presence is here, God's presence is here.' Yeah, but God... unless there's a doubt about that person or that it belongs to God. So isn't it already spectacular that there's a luminous presence within you which is unchanging? Because every other experience, every other fireworks will come and go, but there's an unchanging presence within you. Your Atma is already here, always here. Not for the mind, but for you. This must be a beautiful foundation, beautiful recognition.

There are no systems. All I can confirm is medications, yes. It's not a light like a light bulb.

No, it's not a light like a light bulb. But in the presence of whom am I experiencing the light of the light bulb? Don't rush, just confirm this. In which light? And I am calling it light; you can look at it as presence. In whose existence are you experiencing the presence of light? And without the existence of that, then even this brightest light of the sun, it vanishes. What is that being? What is that consciousness? Is that beingness? And then I ask you, does your presence have boundaries? You say no. Anyway, there's a boundless presence that you can experience now within yourself, and you can always experience it. Isn't that stunning?

So when we say it's not something special, we want it all upside down. No, we're waiting for fireworks which will come and go. So those who are waiting for the temporal, those who are waiting for the ephemeral things that just come and go, okay, I just... what's so special about this? There's a palpable presence which is not just thinking. We are not thinking about your Atma or your being anymore; you're meeting it. But the mind will come and say, 'But is that it? Whose presence is this?' And if it is something, 'Is that it?' then it should have a boundary. This being whose presence you are experiencing, this being whose presence you are experiencing... so the presence is not the entirety of it, but look at it as a gift from it. Because in our human condition, we are so caught up in perception that it gives you the scent of it to pull you into its vastness through your heart where the presence is being experienced.

Because if God and its being, the Saguna Brahman, would also then be completely unfathomable and unperceivable to us, then it would just seem like unattainable. But if there is a gift available to us as our own Atma, as our own beingness, which we can grab, because that is the portal into the reality of yourself. Many of these words may not make sense to you yet, that's fine, because at least they again met somewhere.

Are you saying that the experience of being is the entry point for the portal? The experience of this presence, the presence of being?

Presence, okay. You experience the presence of being, or what I'm calling the beingness, as the presence of being. You see, where do you experience the presence of being? Somewhere in somebody, I know. But when I ask you, does this being have a location or boundary, you say no. So that which is boundless you cannot perceive, and yet its presence you can. So don't discount it under any mental things anymore. But there's a presence living provisionally, we can say, within you. Within you there's a presence living. It's living within the real you, but for now it may seem like it's really living within me. Isn't it important to investigate which presence that is, whose presence that is? Or should we spend our entire life chasing things on the outside, not even bothering about the presence which is within us? A living presence. Whose presence? I'm first emphasizing the importance of that looking because the mind will discount it and say, 'No, no, but I have an email to send.' There's a presence living inside you, you see. Isn't it important to discover whose it is? Yes.

Otherwise it'd be completely unreachable where we are in the human condition. To talk of meeting God, we are so attached to name and form. This is so... like I was saying, this is like the portion of the claw that you can meet, but it's the meeting of the entirety of it. As you meet God's presence, you're meeting the entirety of God. But so that's why I've been calling this God's toenails. You're meeting God's presence which you can hold on to. As long as we think there is something left to us, as long as we believe that I am something, we have this available to us to hold on to. And you know who this is? This is the light of God. This is the Satguru presence. This is your intuition. This is Divinity. This is your Atma, this beingness. This is your guide. It is the creator of this universe and it sustains it and it destroys it. All that we can fathom in the human condition is this. That same light, that same presence is also guiding you as the Satguru presence. When you rest in this presence, all your concerns and conditions and worries fade away. All guidance that you need is available to you. The truth of who you are becomes apparent to you. This reality is found here. There is nothing that we can say or do, or the mind can say or do, which can...

Our guide, it is the creator of this universe and it sustains it and it destroys it. All that we can fathom in the human condition is this: that same light, that same presence is also guiding you as a Satguru presence. When you rest in this presence, all your concerns and conditions and worries fade away. All guidance that you need is available to you. The truth of who you are becomes apparent to you. This reality is found here. There is nothing that we can say or do, or the mind can see or do, which can discount the value of this in our life because without this we are dead already, you see? But most of us are living as if it is not present, and that is living as if we are dead already. This is the denial of God's light. This is the very meaning of ego, okay? The denial of this presence—that there is something beyond me that already is here. A denial of that is to take yourself to be just a bundle of flesh, which is not alive anyway; it's just food. Without this life, this is just food, is it? This is the light in which Prana is born and is regulated, in whose life, who's allocating life force and energy to this body and who decides when it goes. This very presence. Without the will of this presence, you may do all the pranayama in the world and nothing will change. Prana is only regulated—life energy, life force is only regulated by this. You may attach a pump to a body that is dead and make the pump move in the rhythmic patterns of a breathing exercise; will it happen? No Prana will come because life is not there. What is life? It is life in you, is life within you, which you are neglecting for that which is already there. And even if you don't say anything about the body, the one that you take yourself to be was never born in—just not even imagination, just a belief, just a notion.

So this giver of life, this presence, this guide, this comforter is available to us in the form of our beingness, the form of the Satguru presence. All the forms of the Master that you see around you have only one job, which is to bring you to this. That's all. Because without this, any talk further is not possible. Any talk of awareness and unbounded being, it's just conceptual without this. In this presence, that insight, that discovery comes alive. Otherwise, it's conceptual. Now that you have found it, don't leave it, no matter what the temptation in life. And that temptation can be good-sounding or bad-sounding. So the temptation could be leaving because good stuff will come, is it? Or you have to leave it because then you have to—if you don't, then your life is going on really out of place. And you see, this is the power of the light within you, the presence within you. This is the presence around which we said this is the true knowledge of the earth. And before we can come to a clear insight into the Brahman, before we can talk about being and awareness, it cannot be met without meeting this intuition, meeting this. It can only be conceptualized without it.

Who is the true Master without this light? Just an idea. Just an idea. How many people on our head like this? But then we need the true Master. Without this light of our presence, is human ultimate reality as awareness? Because you know, no, awareness is just a functioning of your brain, you see? Scientists have concluded this. No, no, I know my Master says it's awareness. No, no, but these scientists... and then you can become a debate because it's only conceptual. But in the light of the Satguru presence, you cannot debate. It is not conceptual. So this, don't leave for anything in the world, okay? And the only way to not leave it is to not come into the hypnosis of thought. I'm not talking about not leaving it with your attention, see? Although if that's what it takes, then that's what it takes. If you're too obsessed with your thoughts, then for some time keep your attention also, it's okay, is it? But to not be under the hypnosis which is claiming that you are something, you see? That you are something. And then it seems to—this presence seems true, but that seeming is a very powerful thing. And that's why this Leela seems so tangible to us. In fact, we must not even call it Leela till we see the Leela-ness of it. That is hypocritical, okay? 'How all this is just a Leela.' What? I don't know about tomorrow, what am I going to do? I have no money, my boyfriend is leaving me... oh, then don't say Leela. Yeah? Reality of it. And to see the unreality of it means you can't be bothered, you see? So better not to say all these things till it becomes our lived experience. And the only way in which it is our lived experience is under God's light, because only in God's light do you see that nothing here can hurt you.

Buying into the philosophy of the head, we cannot live a life empty of fear because everything is going—you are going to die. In the mind's philosophy, you are going to die. So what's your tactic now? That whatever little time I have, let me grab, grab. And then what? No, don't, let's not look at that. Or that has become the philosophy. Who is it serving? You don't know, because your being doesn't want any of that. It's just an idea that you're serving me. So you wrote a book and now you're attached to the main character so much that even though the truth is calling you, 'Hey!' 'No, no, no, I want the book character to find the truth.' The one that is just a figment of your narrative can never meet this truth, okay? And you want the evidence in the narrative in the book to change because you found God. Imagine what kind of author is that who got so attached to the character that they wrote, and they will claim their finding of God only when that character in the book will find? It is the most absurd thing that is the human condition. And as long as the book and its narrative and its always—its relationships and things in the book still seem real, then let's not call it Maya, Leela, because to call it, even to say it is the Leela, has to make a big claim, which is to say that you are beyond it. That you are beyond it. In a way, I'm happy if you make that claim because then life will make you meet it as well.

The presence of this being is the foundation of our true life, alive in God. And maybe as we go further, you may even make the claim our life as God, one with God. But don't rush into those things. It is only through this, and only through the grace of God, do you meet someone who is living in God's light to be able to point us and say, 'This is your true life and you're missing it for nonsensical temporary things.' And all of you can spot it when it is coming just from a conceptual knowledge, is it? Like when you meet someone who says to you, 'Oh, the dosa in Central Park, New York is really very nice,' you see? You can spot it in the way that they are saying it, whether they've experienced it or they really just read about it or seen on YouTube. You can tell the difference. In the same way, you can tell when you meet someone whether they're speaking in the light of true beingness or they're just talking conceptual spirituality.

He wants to play that the decision makers in a way, you just exactly you feel yourself this is very good so let's go through let's go through and see.

It is the light of the universe and that's why we call it God. This presence of being gives life to this waking state, this universe, this experienced universe. It is the life. They don't want to do that. It wants to be all-important. It wants to think everything revolves around it. It wants more and more power and glory and everything to make that a seeming reality for itself. But it cannot overcome. They can never. Just a bundle of thoughts can never, as pretend as they might, as authoritatively as the mind may speak, it can never take the place of this light. It may want to be so. That is the first. The second rule is it may want to be your Guru. It may want to guide you. 'We are constantly going to do this, this is right, this is wrong,' this kind of working, you see? But upon meeting your true Guru, you discover your Guru in your heart who is guiding you towards your reality and not the fakeness, you see? And the reality this mind can never fathom, so it can never be your true Guru. It can only be conceptual, okay? What else? It is the bringer of comfort in our lives. And you've seen this, when you become tired and weary of your mind, where do you go to? You want to be in silence, you want to be with yourself because, 'Yeah, I just wanted to be with myself.' What are you yearning for? You're needing to be in your own presence. Even people at work, they say, 'I'm going to go take some time, going to the mountains and just be with myself and not think.' Because although the mind will claim to give you all the advice and reassurance and comfort, it is just a hellish existence. And we get tired of that hellish existence and we want to escape. We want to go on pilgrimages, we want to go to Satsang. But what are we escaping? We are escaping the tormentor in our own head. There are friends who think that they will escape the tormentor in our heads by building farmhouses outside the city. It doesn't work because they take the tormentor with them, you see? And initially it may seem nice, but after a few days they get worried about what a problem and security problem and that problem. Nothing, because they took the problem with them, is it? So the comforter is only—the rejuvenator is only in our heart. All true rejuvenation of life force and life energy can only come from here. You may take the best Ayurvedic retreat, but if you don't fall into your heart during the retreat, nothing will happen. Your body will be helped somehow.

This is the light of the universe. This is your guide. This is your reassurance. This is that which animates this whole universe. And especially that form which you consider to be your Master is only an instrument for this presence, guiding you back to this light. It is the magnetism, it is the vastness of this light which the mind will continue the same. Oh, that's it.

I forgot what I want. So at that stage, I firmly was behind in my heart saying that to wait for not use my mind. I simply lost my collective, yes. Are you seeing that it's a good thing or a bad thing? But nothing next happened. I could not perform. I have to go back to mind to get to the next step. Why is the next step important?

Who judges? Who determines good? Thank you, okay. So one point in the magnificence of the light of presence I forgot to mention is that how do we determine what is good and what is bad? You say that standing in front of a shelf not knowing what I wanted is a very bad thing. I would say that if you spend your whole life in front of a shelf but in the presence of God, it's a very good life. What is true, what is good or bad? How do we determine the goodness and badness of something? By reading books on my ethics? You've not been able to solve it. You've been talking about justice for as long as the human race has registered, and yet the world is full of injustice. All good, bad, right, wrong, ethics—we have not been able to resolve in our mind. Is there a resolution possible to this? How can we find it?

And I think I was trying to make not only in my mind's expectations but also others' expectations by using it.

Yes. So the mind, just like the behavior is one, the mind is also basically the same one. So when we say our mind or the other mind is this, without realizing, we leave the determinant of goodness to the head and then we say to the heart, 'Dance, show me what you want,' you see? You know, isn't it? Because if you're really God's presence, then I would not be standing in front of a shelf right now. He's trying to seek doubt in you. So the only way to determine what is good and what is bad, what is right and what is wrong, what is true and what is false, is whether it is coming from God's light or it's not—it's coming contaminated by the ego. And that's how life becomes so simple. What is good? Did it come from God? What is true? Does it come from God? Was it right what I did? From God. What is right what I'm doing? More importantly, is it coming from God? What else can we—

Right now, he's trying to seek doubt in you. So the only way to determine what is good and what is bad, what is right and what is wrong, what is true and what is false, is whether it is coming from God's light or it's not—it's coming contaminated by the ego. And that's how life becomes so simple. What is good? Did it come from God? What is true? Does it come from God? Was it right what I did? From God. What is right what I'm doing? More importantly, is it coming from God? What else can we ask for in life? You've got guidance, you've got the creation of the universe, you've got the auditor of what is building, what is that? You've got self-knowledge in details inside. You've got... okay, one more thing. When do you really taste this world in its beauty? Even this world, forget about the truth of what you are, then you're going to forget about that even. This world, when you're fully in God's presence, when you are in the mind, you will be stuck in your 'I' thinking or what's happening in my life. So the only way to experience this world is also in God's light. I see nothing spectacular, everything is given to us with this. Even the tasting of this world is magnified in God's light. If I taste this lemonade while thinking about some work, you know, something like that, I won't even taste it. To taste it out of the hypnosis of the mind is to experience God even in the presence of this world, like that pure perception. Yeah, are you guys seeing this color? Because we don't even experience the world without God's light. In our selfishness, in wanting more and more and more, we don't receive anything at all. Even the beauty of one moment, if you were to fathom, you would meet God. So don't buy into your mind telling you, 'Oh, so what?' So everything, literally every single thing that is good, that is worthy, that is alive, is shining in the light of this presence that you are able to even contemplate or inquire. It is because of the presence of the Satguru, the presence of the intuitive Divinity within us. To call yourself spiritual or Godly is to dedicate whatever you take yourself to be to this presence of God. Now that is true spirituality.

God's presence is the only ability to judge the goodness or badness of anything, including what should be done and what should not be done. Whose will shall we follow? To come to the Supreme intelligence and to then refer to a limited form of intelligence that we encounter? But we refer to the most limited form of intelligence to tell us about ourselves and our lives and what we should do and what is right and what is wrong. Wouldn't that be a mistake? You found a sage living within you, but also living within you is a selfish snake. Whose advice would you take? If snake is too much, a selfish mosquito saying that, 'Well, I'm not doing it for me, but for my family and my future.' I'm trying to say I'm not selfish, yes. Would the selfish mosquito know more about how to be good to your wife and family than this within you? Check on these things.

Father, yes. The importance of what you're saying in this satsang and the foundation of this is really, really important. This is playing, you know, in that scene right now. And before they see in the light of satsang, the only excuse is just fear. I'm not staying here, just here.

When we see the only excuse is fear, it is not the experience of a feeling called fear. Let's dive into this and see if this resonates. It is not the experience of the vibration that we call fear; it is the mind's protestations about something valuable being taken away, or losing something, or not getting something which the mind itself is taking to be valuable, which is basically desire or aversion, you see? So that what we usually call fear actually is not just the experience of fear, you see, but also the mind's idea of missing out or not having or losing. We have some notion like that.

Yeah, like what you said, that they've got to see it, then this should change. Like it should be different than what it is. But that's counterintuitive to what you're showing.

Exactly. Instantly it is different, but not evaluatively. Instantly it is different when you step away from the hypnosis of your head for one instant. Your life is completely changed. But if you were to put your life back into a temporary narrative saying, 'Oh, but this is how I started when I came to satsang and this is where I am now and things are not,' then you've lost. You're already back in the hypnosis. Is it so? Life... so that's why I say it's a completely different way of living, you see. But both cannot merge or cannot be juggled together. Your life is switched out from the past instantly as you have dropped your head right now. But if you try to make a conclusion about how it is going, then we are back in the wrong place, you see. Then what will the mind say? It will say, 'Yes, for a moment or two it was nice, but here I am.' You see? So you went back into the storybook idea about ourselves. And you step back out of the storybook, you're no longer in the story. Then you say, 'Okay, so how is it going for me now? Am I out of the story?' You're back in the story. You see? So the need to get a conclusive confirmation into our progress is one of the biggest impediments to our progress because the one that started this journey, like Guruji said, is finished by the journey. But we keep bringing it back to life by tracking its narrative.

So how are you doing now? I'm asking everyone in the room, including you. Where will we go for that? The minute you go back to the evaluative, judgmental aspect of yourself, back into the narratives which we may try to make pleasant, but actually is living in a hellish way. You see? So as opposed to that, God's presence is here. I told you so much and I've not even scratched the surface in everything that I said so far about it. It describes the surface in all of this: the light, the comforter, the true enjoyer. In the true sense of enjoyment, you cannot even taste a glass of juice without it. Yep, that's it. The thing with desire is that as our mind is afflicted by desire and we are buying into all of this, even if the desires are coming true, it's always more, more, next, next. So it's a completely different life. All you have to do is snap out of your head. Ultimately it boils down to this: either your mind is telling the truth or I am. Wow, that is finally all said and done. That's what it boils down to.

About God's presence, about love, about the nature of this universe, the pointing from both these sources of knowledge you have within you are so different from each other that if you try to manage both and juggle both, you will be very, very confused. You will be very, very full of oscillation, full of disease, roller coaster type life. You must build a permanent house in your heart. Don't leave it at all costs. And when you do leave it, come back home as soon as you can. Don't think about why I did that, I should not have done that, I'm being not spiritual and whatever, whatever. Don't think, because the mind would have to convince you that you are unworthy and therefore you should continue to be unworthy. Have you seen the mind's philosophy? 'Yeah, I wasn't worthy.' Okay, so then you should come back home immediately. It says, 'I broke my fast. I was supposed to not eat calories, but I ate a salad. I broke the fast. I was, you know, suppose, you know, 36-hour fast, but I broke my fast and I made a sandwich.' What would the mind have you do? Eat the dessert after that. 'No, no, don't return to the fast now. You're unworthy now, you might as well.' Isn't it? In the same way, first it trips you up, says, 'Come on, but you heard him not to come to me. You really came. Why you came? You're so bad, you're unworthy.' No, you just return when you spot it. You drop it. That's all. That's all that's required of you. That's horrible. But if you spot it and then you keep repeating it, you see, then you're falling for the mind's vicious cycle. And the vicious cycle only leads to one thing, which is to live the dead-end life full of suffering. Even all the worst that life has to offer with some minor glimpses of winning here and there. It's often a year because I learned so much from my kids. So when I was playing with my kids any game, if you're always winning, the kid will lose interest very fast. Playing some game and you just keep winning, card game or Uno, whatever you're playing with your kids, if you win every single time, they will not play with you anymore. In the same way, the mind also tricks you like this. Gives you the glimmer of some hope in that way of existing. This is so that you don't lose interest to win also. The world is so attracted to the notion of winning, but what are we winning against? You're only achieving some desire. Are we winning our true lives back? Are we living in God's light?

Against the inside. See that again. It claims the inside. It claims the inside. It claims everything, right? All the insight is because of its smartness. All the thing is because how good it is. Everything is... Father, I've been believing the mind over you and thank you for that.

Actually, I need even more than your belief because I think there's no way to believe what I'm saying. You don't believe what I'm saying. You have to meet something deeper and you call it faith, unwithering faith. All that your mind is proposing to you can be met with belief. All that I am offering to you can only be met intuitively. Otherwise, it will just become worse for your mind. All of spirituality... if everything that you heard today was met just in the mind, then I've left you worse off, not better off than when the satsang started. Because the spiritual ego loves to know stuff. They are given more stuff for it to know. Then only everything is more difficult for myself. But when you do come back home instead of... it's like that is the whole story of the Prodigal Son. He really has my heart. He will be, you know, dented to just come back home. But if he insists that, 'Oh, I have made this mistake, so now I will make 55 more mistakes and God help me,' that can be. 'I made a mistake and because I made the mistake, I'm continuing to make mistakes and I will make hundreds more.' I am saying come back home now. That is what the mind wants to do. That is how this... playfully saying this, back in his fault, you went to the mind. Now the mind is telling you stuff about yourself which is based on spirituality. 'Bad. You should not have done this. Now you're going to be stuck like this. You're going to be like this forever. There is no hope for you.' Because I had one salad, now you're eating so much desserts, you see? And I am saying come back to the health spa. Yes, will already play out to fight on my behalf. That's what I want my children to do. That's what I want all of you to do. I started with not a single gray hair and I started sharing. Thank you. I'm 12 years at least, all of you kids got fighting on my behalf.

Yes, the mind excuses the insight. Oh, now we say that the mind takes over the insight.

Yeah, it sort of contaminates it, you know? It makes an interpretation of it which is just so... just like this, especially in my business. So now I was just looking, that's a perfect example. You're meeting this presence, you see? But if your mind is still the arbiter of what is right, wrong, good, bad, you can say, 'Yeah, nothing so great in this. These are always making...' So you must notice this tendency that we give supremacy to the mind's judgment over our hearts. Calling that is what it would mean to contaminate it. This is what the whole vacuum world thing was about, you see? Because anything I may say, the mind will pop open here. 'Yeah, I am getting this.' No, no, not you. 'Yes, yes.' You're saying, 'No, no, not you.' Yes, exactly. Can't grab that. I mean, I see that they can't teeth because it's not a... it's not a narration in any league. It's not narrative. It's not perceivable. There's no way your mind can read this. So I mean, that's why I said I...

Mind judgment over our heart's calling, that is what it would mean to contaminate it. This is what the whole vacuum world thing was about, is it? Because anything I may say, the mind will pop open here. 'Yeah, I am getting this.' No, no, not you. 'Yes, yes, you're saying no, no, not you.' Yes, exactly. It can't grab that. I mean, I see that they can't, because it's not a narration in any league. It's not narrative. It's not perceivable. There's no way your mind can read this. So, I mean, that's why I said I don't need your belief.

Yeah, so when you said, 'I don't need your belief,' because for two, three days I've been saying, 'But how does my mind know this? How does it know this?' So, it is because it was probably just heard in the hand? That is all the mind is?

No, I'm saying it can repeat what it can hear. But like we said, I don't need your belief. That itself will come. It cannot meet it in any way, just in terms of words and language. But it can make comments. It can make... it is only making comments, not making the truths.

So when I asked it like that, the question was, 'It's okay, it's not about you.' I feel like it was very useful for that ranking to happen because many times we have this thing, this presence in here, but then is that the Absolute? The first meet the press?

Yes, yeah. What you don't realize, it is your mind's way of discounting. It's like it notices the new king arriving into the city and it wants to build every possible defense. 'No, this can't be okay for someone to come very powerful or stronger.' You know, my kingdom is different. God is within me. That was the promised kingdom, but all of them had the wrong idea.

Hello, Father. Hello, Father. Hello. Are you good? We are trying to figure out how the device works for the moment. Nice work. Yeah, on YouTube we can't hear you anymore. We hear you very badly now.

Okay, how is it now? Is this... can you talk a bit more? It must be good. We got too excited about being invited to speak and we somehow we put you off the speaker. So I'll pass the phone for you to talk to him because it was him. Yeah, all right. Be right there. Yeah, thank you. Do you know how to put it on speaker now? Okay.

Hello, Father.

Hello, my dear. How is it? How's everything for you?

It's nice. It's going all right. I am... I've been in Romania and now I'm back in Portugal. And I got really emotional about leaving Romania and leaving my family.

Yes, hi. Because you were there for how many days? You know, I think two months. Two months. And you had a lot of fun there? Yes. So if then you left the place where it was so nice and you had a lot of fun and you did not miss it and cry about it, then there would be something wrong, isn't it? Very natural for somebody, especially your age, to have that reaction. Something very normal and natural. I used to visit my grandparents sometimes as a child and even for a week, then I'll come back to my house and then I would feel so sad and upset. It's very natural to feel that, you know? Okay? So don't try to push the feeling away or to overcome it or to be like super spiritual or something like that. Let it release itself. It's completely fine to feel sad for a few days and in a few days you will be completely fine.

Thank you, Father. A little bit concerned about the school. I'm also concerned about... I think about my school and about where I'm supposed to stay in.

The best part about being your age is that none of that is your problem. You have people who are older, who are your parents, they'll all decide. Let them sort it out. You enjoy it.

Thank you, Father.

Very good. Just enjoy yourself. It's all good. If the grown-ups trouble you with this stuff, just tell them, 'But that's your job to decide.' You may give your preference if you have one, but all this decision making, until you are much older, you don't have to worry about.

Anything else? Distance education school is a bit hard, yeah. And it's a bit stressful for him, yeah. And also he kind of expressed, he said yesterday that he did like a normal life. And I know he's missing having friends and yeah, really.

Yes. So you as a parent have to rely on what I just said about how do we determine what is good and what is bad, what is right and what is wrong. You have taken his input and that's very important to communicating with your children, but the decision lies with the parents and the parents must rely on God for that decision making. That decision, yeah, and that is not the part that I work. That's good. So let's see, let's see how it goes. Thank you so much. Thank you. Love to all of you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you. And your shoes. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

So beautiful. Today we've discussed that God's presence is within us and in this presence all that we could ever ask for that is truthful and auspicious is available and made known to us. This then becomes the foundation on which a life can be led connected to God in this way, connected to the true Tree of Life and disconnected from the tree of knowledge, knowledge judgmental. A way to live, very simple, to allow this presence to guide this life, to allow it to move this body and this world as it seems fit. To live open and empty in this world is how such a beautiful life can be lived. For that which you take yourself to be as well as the seeming others around you, don't rush into that. It will come on its own. For many of you it's happening very organically as well, but be careful not to fall into this trap that, 'Oh, I can guide others but the guidance cannot come for me,' which is the sort of resistance that has found many of you.

Yeah, my heart was just speaking. I was there and I don't know where these words were coming from, they just started sharing with them and I hope they follow, you know? I hope that because it was a good writing for them. But when it comes from me, oh, I don't know. Did the heart speaking words notice? So you would love for others to be obedient to the words that are coming from your heart. Following God's will with full obedience here can trigger some fear. That doesn't sound like freedom. Then what does? To follow the will of the most intelligent must be good, must be true, must be freedom. And if it is good enough for others that you are proposing it to, how come it's not good enough for you? Notice the ego's resistance because the ego wanted egoic freedom, which is whatever comes to mind I should be able to do. 'You doing whatever comes to my mind I should be able to do, nobody to stop me.' I thought that coming to satsang will give us even more of this.

So many representations of this which you'll notice in the world, that many of you like to lead a very rebellious life or to lose your life and everything. There's no plan, nothing easy like that. Although it sounds like all the right stuff, but disconnected from the foundation of God's presence, that becomes as mental, if not worse, as any other life. 'I have decided that I will have no plan now.' How many of you can spot that that sounds like a new plan? 'I have decided that I will have no plan now' is the new plan. You see that? So in the mind we may play these games and take positions of planning, planning or spontaneous, spontaneous. None of that will help. It's got nothing to do with that.

What is the way out of this? Every tradition, every religion, every spirituality has told us to live in God's light, follow God's way. And whether the merging, that which you take yourself to be following God's will and living in God's light, whether that merging is apparent or not, whether the mind becomes fully dissolved or not, you come to Mukti or you stay with some tendencies, all that is none of your business anymore. Because you are thinking about it and you're wanting to be empty of mind, letting go not make you empty of mind. Your resting in God's light, your allowing it to unfold moment to moment is the only possible medicine you can take. Everything is an ideal, planning nor spontaneity, anything that you can determine, anything that has an opposite is not it.

What is the contemplation now? You look at that. What is the contemplation? It is an offering from the heart, is it? Which hopefully tugs at your heart. An offering from your intuitive presence so that you can meet it within yourself without needing an external form. And we learn how to live in this way. The questions of a contemplation may seem like it's a traditional sort of thing. The question will come to, 'Are you aware now? Can you stop being? What is true? What is good?' All of that. You may think that, 'Oh, these are like question paper things you have to solve to clear the exam of spirituality.' But if it is being met from our knowledge of right and wrong... sometimes I was noticing that what is happening is that you are not meeting the contemplations. We were quickly judging, 'Oh, this is right, this is real, it's not real, I don't feel.' You see? So the contemplations were not meant to be, 'This is my view on this.' Not any of them. It was just to allow your heart to unfold, to meet, to follow the scent of those words to lead you to your own heart. And from your heart, even if the words were complete nonsense, nothing to do with what question was asked, this music that is beautiful, that is why I made that note about how it should be contemplated. It is just to invoke that same presence where it is coming from. It is not the accuracy or the right and wrong of it, you know? It's like an offering from the heart to the heart so that we can rely, we can learn to trust our own heart and we get used to it. If you follow every day, you get used to living in this way. Sometimes as the words are coming up, it's also mentioned over there: spend your day like this, spend your day like this. So that you experiment with anything, you see that it is possible to live like this. It is not just something for satsang. It is something that you come to satsang, you are just free of all of this, then you go work or with family and when you get back into your own mental way of life.

And the best friend becomes too tired and spoilers, but it's old enough to have spoilers. He says, so ultimately it all boils: either the mind is telling the truth and I am lying, or I am telling the truth and the mind is lying. Fundamentally it is... okay. That's a fun theme song. Oh, is there anything? No. Either the mind is distributed about what this is or I am. That's what it boils, because both our points of view are irreconcilable now. You cannot make a marriage out of both these different points of view. Impossible. Like either you are an object in this whole universe, tiny little thing—of course this will appear to your ego—but all you are that in which this whole universe appears in discipline. How will we make both of them dance together? Most of us are already betting our lives, repeating our life on one way of life. I'm here to ask you to change the bet, but it is a bet of your whole life. Not because it may be better, not because you may be happier, only because it is true. That you cannot make an altar to both and worship them together. They cannot be God and ego, God and me. What is true? God or ego? And bet your life on your answer. If you bet your life on God, I promise you an eternal life, timeless. But I don't promise you anything in that which is within time. The mind may offer you everything that is available in this world, this realm of perception, but nothing here will last. If you pick the ego, if you pick your mind, you don't really know when this question will be asked again of you. Don't know how much time we have in this life. We don't know what may happen tomorrow or right now. This is the only time. It's just like that scene in the movie, he's about to get married, some of you know how to get married, and the boy's best friend says, 'This is the time you have to pick. Either she's telling the truth and I'm lying or from whatever you know...'

Nothing here will last. If you pick the ego, if you pick your mind, you don't really know when this question will be asked again of you. You don't know how much time we have in this life. We don't know what may happen tomorrow or right now. This is the only time. It's just like that scene in the movie; he's about to get married, and the boy's best friend says, 'This is the time you have to pick. Either she's telling the truth and I'm lying, or from whatever you've known of me, you have to come with me.'

You feel you can bet your life on God's presence in your heart now. Some fear is natural. I'm not asking to change anything outside. If you truly consider God to be God, then all auspiciousness, all Grace, can align and can arise only from that. That is auspicious burning; that is the true fire ceremony. Don't hide from yourselves. Bring it to your own life and get to God. Ask for God's grace to free you from that, for you to become open and empty.

With God's presence in your heart, you really have no escape, or you have no excuse now. Actually, you can escape back into the comfortable hell of the mind, but you have no excuse for that anymore.