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What is Reality and What is the Truth? - 8th December 2016

December 8, 20169:5188 views

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Ananta guides seekers to distinguish between the changing realm of Maya and the unchanging reality. He emphasizes that truth must be both immutable and directly verifiable through one's own living experience.

Truth has to be experienced as a direct living experience, otherwise it becomes another concept.
When we attach to that which is constantly changing, it is bound to lead to suffering.
Can we find something which does not change? That must be the unchanging sense of contentment.

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Transcript

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Ananta

Very important, very important question was: what is reality, what is the truth? It is very good to contemplate this. And one way to look at it also, if it is not directly clear that this is reality or the truth, then we can start by looking at what do we mean by false. So that is, someone was saying that we come to satsang to be free from the false, to drop the illusion, drop the false. So you can at least identify all that is false or all that is unreal.

Ananta

Now this definition of reality is very important for us to know. What is it that we mean by reality? So, is that which is apparent, apparently appearing now, do we call that reality? Or is there something which is unchanging? What is the value? What is it that you are looking for? So we must come to a definition that satisfies us because reality is of value, truth is of value. Here in satsang, a prerequisite is a constant; it must be unchanging reality, you see. So if this appeals to us, then it makes it very simple. Then the realm of the changing doesn't seem to have so much power over us.

Ananta

Why does it appear here? I'll tell you why. Because for many years it was this sense of trying to get something in this realm, trying to get something in this realm. But it was seen that everything in this realm is constantly changing. Everything is constantly changing; nothing stays constant. We try to make it constant, we try to make it stick, but it doesn't happen that way, you see. We've seen this in our relationships, in our material possessions, in the state of our body. All these aspects we have seen, that this is constantly changing. And when we attach to that which is constantly changing, it is bound to lead to suffering.

Ananta

Even if the world is not constantly changing, our mind is constantly changing. You want something really badly and suppose we get it, then after a while our mind changes about that and says, 'I wish this was like this' or 'I wish this was another way.' So even if we find some little bit of constancy in the world, this mind doesn't stay constant. Because many of our desires that we had in the past have actually been fulfilled also, you see? Many have been fulfilled, but did they lead to a constant fulfillment? No, because your mind also changed about it, you see. So our belief system is constantly changing.

Ananta

So can we really find something which is unchanging? And that must be the unchanging sense of content. The end of suffering can come when we recognize this unchanging that is living experience. Even the Buddha said the world is suffering, means that this realm is this changing realm which is a constant source of suffering for everyone. If we attach to this, then we see that it is a setup for failure. Nothing can be really held on to. The instrument through which we experience the world itself will not last forever, so how can it be? Presumably, perceived through this instrument, how can we presume that that will last?

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Ananta

So is there any possibility? Is there any possibility of that which is unchanging? Because that is of value. If there is such a thing, then it is important for us to give some attention to that. What could it be that remains unchanged? What is it that is real? What is the truth? So one attribute will describe that which is not coming and going, that does not change. I'll tell you, there is something: awareness. Huh? It is unchanging. But just by telling you this, is it enough? It doesn't help. I can say anything. I can say there is a heaven at the end of this world which is unchanging. I can say there is no hope, there is only hell awaiting us. But all these are only conceptual.

Ananta

There is this awareness which is unchanging. It does not help. Why? Because it has to be directly verifiable as a truth. So truth has to be experienced in the truth as a direct living experience, otherwise it becomes another concept. So most religions are a set of concepts, but here what we are talking about is true spirituality, to directly experience that which religion is pointing to. If there is a God, then it is of value. Otherwise, you've seen that it only becomes a battle of concepts. A struggle to keep some individuality alive by trying to keep a hold of what we feel are the best concepts.

Ananta

So that which is unchanging and that which is directly verifiable, I feel like if we can at least agree that these two attributes must be there in that which we call the truth or reality, then it will help us a great deal. It is that reality which we are talking about or sharing in satsang. It always is, ever-present, unchanging, and directly experienced, directly verifiable. Then for a while, can we keep aside all that is changing? States are changing, people are changing, the body is changing. So in our definition, if you can say that this is unreal because it is changing, that is what is traditionally defined. Another way that it is defined: that which is changing is Maya. That which can be measured is Maya. They've defined it as an illusion.

Ananta

Now, whether we'll come to that—whether that which is appearing, that which is changing, is inherently different from that which is unchanging—the final answer is no, it is also that. But we can come to that. Because that which is appearing is attractive to the attention, the point of labeling it as unreal, the point of labeling it as Maya, is only so that for some time can we take our attention away from that and see whether there is something which is... can I find something which does not change? So this is because of the truth. What is that truth?

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.