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What Is Meant by 'Droping the Something'? - 13th October 2017

October 13, 201712:1669 views

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Ananta teaches that suffering arises only when we attach a limiting concept to the pure sense of 'I am'. He guides seekers to remain as the empty, unassociated witness through surrender or self-inquiry.

To be free from suffering we come to this unassociated I am.
Don't believe your next thought. Let it go; it's my Father's problem.
The point of concepts is not that you will learn something; it is to unlearn everything.

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Transcript

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Ananta

I mean, if you are confused about—I'm not completely clear about what I mean when I say it's all about dropping the 'something'. 'I am something'. It's all about dropping this 'something' and not picking up the 'something'. And it becomes apparent when this 'I am' remains empty of 'something', the truth is so apparent. Is this clear to you? Because this is a very direct and straightforward way. So, this 'I' that is the timeless witness that we spoke about, that is the unchanging. Now, what happens? What is suffering? What is... can you have suffering in your dreamless sleep? Suppose... what needs to be there for you to suffer? Before, a thought must come. Unless you were there, I should be there, but as now, this consciousness, you must exist. So, you cannot... you cannot have a thought in your sleep state. You cannot have any phenomena you taste in your sleep state. In fact, it is the appearance of this sense that 'I exist' which is the basis for all of this. So, let's call this 'I am'.

Ananta

In the end, don't worry if this has been a direct insight or not, so just take my word for it in the moment, okay? Waking up, there is just 'I am'. Before even time and space, you are just 'I am'. Then all this play of time is fueled, all of the storms. Now, if this 'I am'—existence, presence, consciousness—which is left as 'I', would you suffer? Therefore, you must attach something. 'I am'—put a 'something' in that box. Put it there for you to suffer. Now, how does this 'something' get put in the box? Right now, you are empty of 'something'. Now, if you had to put it in the box in the blank, what would you have to do? I know you see it in mind, try to pick up something. Can you do it without a thought arising? So first, a thought has to arise. Then there must be... the rising of the thought is 'something' there. There's many thoughts; they come and move all the time. A thought can come, you see, but 'I am' only picks up 'something' when it gives its 'yes' to the thought. It gives its ascent. What gives its belief to the thought? 'Yes, this is true about me. I am a good spiritual seeker', suppose the thought came. If it is just coming and going, no truth value given, no belief given. But the moment you latch onto it, as Gurudev says, you 'log in' to it. Then it becomes 'I am this way', 'a good spiritual seeker', 'spiritual something'.

Ananta

Now, if you attach to the concept 'I am a good spiritual seeker' and somebody tells you, 'Ram, it's not happening', but somebody who's not in Satsang, their only interest is in building a building or something like that, you say, 'You're not a good spiritual seeker'. So, it is these concepts that we have about our salvation that become the root of all suffering. So, to be free from suffering, we come to this unassociated 'I am'. What is the way to come to this unassociated 'I am'? Two ways which are usually prescribed from this path, which are self-inquiry or surrender. Surrender means what? Whatever that 'something' of almighty coming from the mind, just let it go. Let go. Don't believe your next thought. 'Let go' means it's my Father's problem. Let go. It's His problem. Yes. So, 'I am'—God made them—cannot suffer in this emptiness of 'something'. Who are you? It may be apparent you don't have a... you don't have a concept.

Ananta

Now, some say that it doesn't come naturally for me to surrender. 'I cannot just let things go. I have to make these things a thing'. These data are using my favorite teaching now today is: don't make a thing a thing. Which means like that, the same: don't put 'something' into that darkness. Some say that it's not natural for me to surrender, so 'I am more of the inquisitive type. I have to ask why, what's going on'. So for them, it is prescribed: you'd better do the inquiry. Because letting go doesn't seem to be easy. When you inquire, you see the thought comes, 'I am not a good spiritual seeker'. When you ask yourself, 'Who is the I which is not the seeker? Is the body the seeker? Is the thought the seeker? Is an emotion the seeker? Who is the seeker?' Then you will see that it's a mythical invention. It's in the mind, a concept. It is not true. Therefore, then again, this 'something' does not get attached to 'I am' and we remain empty. And as long as we remain empty of that, there's nothing... no matter what is happening, we cannot suffer in this play. For us to suffer, there must be a notion of limitation that we have to talk about ourselves. That's why you look spiritual. It's all about how to be empty of this 'something'.

Ananta

I say, when I say 'remain open', 'don't take a position', 'don't give yourself a reference point', 'don't give with your mind's offer', 'don't believe the next thought', 'let go', 'forget about it'—all of this means: don't give yourself that 'something'. So when this is understood, then all that we'll find is that some two-three 'something' still seem to be sticky. They just come in habits to grab. When we come to Satsang, you will find naturally that that is getting lighter and lighter. And if they are really sticky, then we can really put them in the inquiry and see that particular 'something' becomes a bubble. We can inquire into it. If we are not of the inquiring implements, then we can just surrender to the Father. Either way, it is not something that you pick up as a notion about oneself.

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Ananta

So then, both of these seem to again... surrender or self-inquiry. Then other other other parts of the practicing: chant a mantra, that is mindfulness meditation. Keep yourself empty of this 'something'. I am. All spirituality will come to this truth. I am this Atma, this consciousness, empty of the notion of a limited Jiva or egoistic individualistic idea, a notion of yourself that 'I am something'. And this is wrong. No matter which path we follow, which practice we do, it is all about this. Now, that is what I've been saying, that even in spirituality, because the habit is to pick up 'something', then even the spiritual concepts we can become like... we can hear 'I am awareness', we can just pick it up as a concept and put it there. 'I found the master key to life: I am awareness'. So anyone says something, 'What would you like for lunch?', 'Awareness' becomes the manifestation of the spiritual ego. So we remain empty of even spiritual concepts. We use all spiritual concepts just as tools to remove others in this field. Whatever is... actually, this is the box, this part.

Ananta

Because you know the good news? The news is that I know you are empty of that existence that we got used to buying from the salesman who's been selling us fake goods for so long. But now we are learning how to say no. 'Move on, move along'. That's how... that is the meaning of when the Zen masters would say that all thoughts come and go, but stay empty. Don't pick up that 'something' and attach it to us. I feel like this is very simple. We get to the limit of it. I know that many times it can seem contradictory. We don't know this way or that way. All of Satsang is basically an attempt... so if your 'something' is of this type, then what you'll hear in Satsang is the opposite type so we can empty you of that. If it is the opposite type, then we have to say, if you're going too much right, right, left, left. Check and say, 'Come right on fire'. We're going too much right, right. The point of concepts is not that you will learn something. Actually, it is to unlearn everything in Satsang. The point of concept is just next.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.