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Use Exploration to Come to Your Own Insights - 12th December 2017

December 12, 201743:0888 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta invites seekers to abandon all mental positions and conclusions, guiding them to recognize the vast, unchanging space of awareness that remains untouched by the passing 'clouds' of thoughts, emotions, and life events.

The point of satsang is an invitation for you to have the same insight right now without taking a position.
No cloud, no matter how large, can actually make a dent in the sky.
The truth must be here in your motionlessness when you haven't given up or taken any position.

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Transcript

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Ananta

We want the time to subsume to be the Guru. Mooji Baba, so when the seeker... you understand? If my audio-video is not clear, you must let me know so that, you see, today we end up using another internet connection. If it is better, but actually it was worse, let me know. One of you can do it, you know, on the chat. It is fact with all of you, and I mean the particulars. This every morning, conclusions are: do this, reorient those. You can go. Beloved child is looking after many months today and you can see that it might be blind. What I'm sharing is like some absolute position, rightfully mine, which is totally by the first story: to see what you are empty of conclusions, until all positions. Any position that there is will have some, then have the opposite position, moves, have a dichotomy building. So if it feels like I'm inside only sharing from the absolute position, the content, know that this is not true. All the sharing that is happening from here is not based on, I mean, conclusion. It is based on what? Let me see what the insight is right here, that's right now. Sometimes the vocabulary, of course, can depend on previous terms used, but the insight is complete situation.

Ananta

And the point of Satsang also is not that I really have these insights and I will taste. It's an invitation for you to have the same. I'll take it right now, what you want, without going left or without making a confusion, without taking a position. So I was inviting this one, that there are three possible positions for their millions of clear popular musicians. Two things: one is the absolute, one is that which is an expression of the Absolute, and one is that which is an individual position. These are the three most popular positions. Now in this moment, actually naturally, you starting of a mirror, all of these three, no position actually applies. I'm going on with all the offers for its positions. Think what, what? But emotions might come, the previous seasonal quality, way of life, our world, seeming events might happen. Everything continues to function as it is. As you come to this motionlessness, some of you will feel that all words are pointless. Just completely enjoy this ineloquence, as I was saying is to be. And so the whole thing will view that words are coming to describe my reality, which is empty of positions.

Ananta

Now whether that sounds like the absolute position, or it sounds like an aspect of God position, or its object individually. The middle one is that I am, I am, He is a part of the whole, the part of the whole. So it is not the whole whole, but it is just a part of it. So I am, I'm like the ray of the sun. I am made up of the sun itself, but I am the ray of this. So what you would call the Absolute, that because you conform, sound like the whole is too much for me and it feels like my experience resonates, connected the world in this beautiful way, made up of almost same freedom over substance for God, but I am not God. Or instead, I have not spoken to start with this fixation and spoken start with that is coming from a conceptual position thinking, or whether it is coming from... though I'm sorry because we have gotten used to learning in this way that we will do to learn realistic how to become newer in your knowledge, which gives us better and better, seemingly better and better positions. Then we can feel like: what is the position that I am learning about and I am coming to a greater acceptance and learning about the position that I am?

Ananta

We went to an ashram some time ago and they were talking with me because we follow a different path. You just keep saying to yourself 'Aham Brahmasmi.' You know, it's not about saying to yourself 'I am Brahman, I am this Nirguna Brahman.' Yeah, absolutely, but coming to the insight, to the recognition of this, that is the difference between taking a position. The difference between foolish and, I'm sorry, if we just learn how much it is just a tool and it doesn't help. What happened is that once again, what up with this mind thing? Then everything can be so popularly defended. The rule of communication can... the mind will try to block, say this opposite and that's I'm sharing because it's helpful for when heroes who could also be facing as others, yes. But you want to do the inquiry with me, but I'm just so done with anybody, I don't want to bother. We can say okay, we just sit to the presence of the presence with quick check of entry. But easy, because being insults and so long, mind also that me knows these things, all these outward expressions and it says, 'Okay, this is what's going to happen, what's the point?' which is pointless.

Ananta

And I hear just really what are you? Why you? You are awareness. What is happening to awareness? Nothing can come like that. How good it is, not your titties. Then please don't say that this is what it is when we do the inquiry together. I mean, it would just make me feel good saying, 'Father will be very disappointed if I say I am not.' I don't think so. Many times it takes strong events to happen in life for years to come for us to become full of integrity in this field. Full of integrity in this, we may be able to say that you say you all know that, but I find that has nothing to do with my life. I still have to make money and still have to do myself. How does learning this, that I am that? So we're not showing you that this insight is not be present. It seems to get covered up with the mask. It only seems to get covered. He's right now, let's steam right now because right now is my best way. Or do you find him this inquiry nominee? What is here?

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Seeker

So this is feelings of into consumed is zero, which is this. The stimuli are there or else is there nothing else is there? So what is the relationship of all of this that you said with you? To say that they are feeling, there is the mind, there is visual stimuli, there is audio stimuli. Oh man, it was this is must meet like this. We know they know Master having to conform to a certain philosophy.

Ananta

Now you said very nicely there is visual perception, there is audio reception, there are... and I asked, so all of this is it a fair question that's asked? Is it the best question to ask? But if you give so much time and energy to that which is appeared already, losing the quality of the visual perception or kind of sound is there, noise is there. But is it fair to give some time philosophy dispatch spam? We give 99.9 percent of our time and energy to that which is to say. When you say this, my mind makes a conclusion: these things are not important, these are... no, that's what I'm saying. That's where else is there? I'm not saying that this should not be the conclusion happens 95. That's why we are asking that. Oh, we suppose there are two sides of Zulu. One side it is like complete powers, it is like killing rats, there is that, it's not been delisted. The other side where we crazy life, it may be otherwise. So now I am asking you to look at the entirety. Is it... am I saying that I'm being denied? No one said that. So I'm glad this question, that's fine, because this is like an eagle, but this is like a denial of...

Ananta

So this is this, but what else? Play-acting that for me. So same question to ask this now. And we'll come and say, 'Ah, it is one friend I have who's constantly talking this, isn't it?' We so then are the mother, would you not say, 'But is that the only friend you have?' Whether so the other friend also. So why don't you spend more time with them? So it can feel like this is like a denial of that. Apparently it is not meant to be this, an invitation. I start with that frame instead of focusing one. Yeah, it just happened automatic. This is not... you can feel like what is we proposed is some sort of denial, yes. But on the other hand, they can also be denial of the truth and experience something other than fear. And glad I knew here if we are saying that clear common things as they are, then what are we saying? We call a back which comes and goes and appearance. So anything that you spoke about like the events in our life, our feelings, our thoughts, any of these which does not come and go? Something like that which is not coming. So why is appearance unfair for them?

Ananta

It's right now. If I said to you that the curtains are red, but tomorrow they are... oh yeah, so they dream. So then if I say, 'Oh, the appearance of the curtain is red today but it will change,' is it a denial of the curtain? Actually it is not going to telling you that this is something which is appearing. So is it denial of the appearance? No, it is following an appearance. And you gave the example of the train, the toggling pen, instead of focusing the other good friends. I was having a fight with that boyfriend that I am still friend with you, so that's all. And I'm beating myself why I'm not leaving it. So when he said example, suppose there's one huge sky, in that there is one dark cloud. And one of my children then says, 'Wow, this sky so cloudy today, isn't it? But this dark cloud.' So I see, but what else is there? And then the child of mine come in there, 'But you know what else is there?' No, but we will deal with that. Sorry, would psychotherapy is fixing in some way to fix that out there? What I'm saying is to come out of denial. It is not helping you to see other clouds like you face, yes.

Ananta

But so this is okay, you might not agree with me this very moment. And if I ask anything what is there, nobody would say right. So if there is some space and you able to this look around, then inside at least what we say it is not and I can see that. But temporary again, that again it's coming then I... that's why there's some expectation with that space should remain permanently. It's not, then I'm again beating myself that some visualization. No, no, I'm talking about there this not to visualize this emotion. If this should go, then yes, I can give a certificate better. So what is the way to get around this? If you're feeling that that one dark cloud is the entire deal and I am saying from my experience it no clouds, no matter how large, can you actually make the bhajan on this sky? Then how will be revealed? You have to still no faith. That is 5000 easy because that dark cloud I have no faith in your voices. Oh yeah, sorry. So whose it is not about even me, he put his, his, his to win two different perspectives. I cannot next task, I don't know. So there must be some openness to me right now in how do I know it's true there? But an experience level, this level, it still feels like it's momentary and this moment is like again that back load is coming, you know.

Ananta

But I want... tell me one more thing I want to explore which is there, which is there. What is it? Every maintaining experience is actually like this, huh? See, tell me when you're close done. You're saying that in this moment they experience and lots of that and my heart is saying it is true, but the mind is coming up to this fear then again it is going to thank you. So I'm giving you one more accusation to do which is that. So my inside, but our interpretation of it which is again with the mind version, the mind judgment of it is not. So you said that in this moment I see the paradox which is a part of what is appearing and disappearing, this bigger space, and my heart is also saying that this is true, but the mind the same but this is only because now it is moving. Now I will give you what about exploration based on my own self which is that actually in every moment will always be small because your interpretation of it because it is completely contrary to what I believe. My belief, my by different state is by the cloud and my momentary status is business. You are saying other, I am saying what are same. So I don't want to be the mother. I am saying that okay, there is one means if you believe that the world is flat, you see anything I'm doing your ship, can you go around the world and check this planet? Very cool that you said this is true actually. So is another thing what, what, what can actually feel like that I have set a believes an opposite leads to believe, but actually I hope I'll leave this to you. I need that here. I don't want you to leave anything that's it.

Seeker

I am saying what are same, so I don't want to be the mother. I am saying that, okay, there is one—means if you believe that the world is flat, you see anything I'm doing, your ship can you go around the world and check this planet? Very cool that you said this is true, actually. So is another thing. What can actually feel like that? I have set a belief and an opposite belief to believe, but actually, I hope I'll leave this to you. I need that here. I don't want you to leave anything, that's it.

Ananta

Using the senses for your own exploration, right? I see, I feel it, and somewhere it is interpreted. It's not sufficient, yes. But all this fact is self-concluded. So suppose that this file is the set of conclusions from the box. Now we will do all the experiments of the bigger. You start afresh from scratch.

Seeker

So someone is not making me something, but I can see it is connected here. But there is so much lack of faith. Faith is shaken. So somebody is convincing me that this is permanent, this is temporary. Even intellectually, logically, we might not be able to come to the truth.

Ananta

I am saying don't go with any prior conclusions. If it is true, then we must be able to experience it directly as now. With this one, the mind will resist all the red lines. You can never really have a go of it. It is like a stubborn challenger. But because it is even intellectually so rational, there is not much in fully to saying so. We robot beliefs because these new ones—my mind is here also because, like he's feeling, if I stay just like this, he will be attacked or he will be always a winner, something that how will I live my life? So all this because of that, naturally I'm holding it again because this space is feeling so vulnerable right now. And that is comfortable, but even that is comfortable, it is giving me suffering.

Ananta

So, it's one reason you see that all concepts that the person is lead to suffering, and the concept that I am the Self. So what is our agreement then? That we must be able to come to some concept-less truth, okay? Just thinking of you, acceptance of some—even those concepts will make you suffer unless they are those exclusive concepts which are going up all the original. But truly, the truth must be here in your motionlessness also, and you haven't given up any position. What is real? The boundary everyday. So when you undo any concept about yourself, what is real about you? Let us say that the only concept that you keep now for this exploration then: that which is real is that which does not come and go. If you keep that definition of reality, then what is available? It's awareness. Bulls do will be solution.

Seeker

So standing next to gunner, I see the ground on which the pendulum is subtly. When you say this, put the gun down forcefully. The ground is just there. So then, who? The ground is just there. Does it make it subtle? What does it make it? I like dividing myself, I would say so. I always have my mind saying, but I made the mind a villain. So because of that, I've suffered of God.

Ananta

So let's come back to that dark cloud in the sky example. It is one voice which is saying, 'Keep looking at that dark cloud, that is what you are.' And I am trying to say, but what's space? And then that dark cloud, that space is you, that entirety is you. Now if there are these two voices, one voice is bound to say, 'See that voice, listen to that.' So does that make it a villain? No, not really. What is it telling you? The whole truth about yourself?

Seeker

Another cloud is saying that, 'See you again, see next.' That is the problem. Another is saying to see your as time because of happy. Because of this vulnerable state, the black cloud is—it is focus automatically. Another cloud is coming. It's even after that same because it's still going. This is no need for guilt about it at all.

Ananta

Yeah, this is coming up because it's a more inside going on. I have to know, though. What does he say? That we have to became three if we go on an expedition of—and you say bamboo is only suppose in that invitation. Mind is already making a conclusion and saying, 'You know, it is the sky.' You are saying it like it should be in a friendly manner, like lie into it. I made it because I have we need such and I made it like a mission, so it has to be happen now and it's not happening. Being gazed, this is what happening. Thing is that there is no compliment now. What can happen is that some who say it has to be expressed in the range interview because it's a lot expressive of a gently way. It's like, 'See, I didn't do this to Danny Lee and you did not take me out of my mind and I can't end of the world.' Because the quality of our condition also differently, then the expression of consciousness can be different thing. Words have to be so somewhere. It's just I know that it can seem like events of the last ten months, it is wrong, but clarity, a much better state is. So all that I'm saying to be if you—

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