This Being Is Playing the Game of Being Misunderstood by Itself - 1st January 2018
Saar (Essence)
Ananta points to the timeless substratum of being, urging seekers to drop the misunderstanding of personal identity. He emphasizes that one is already the boundaryless light of the universe, requiring no effort to 'become' free.
You are the subject of time; time is the object appearing in the screen of your own being.
Nothing has actually ever become limited or divided; only this misunderstanding has to be looked at.
Be space. Allow everything to come and go without meddling or judging.
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Not everyone, they wanted a solution given. Jay, wishing all of you a wonderful, wonderful New Year. It is here. It will be the most auspicious. Fill it with Guruji's grace and blessings in your lives, your families, your friends, and the entire world. I'm going to backtrack. Even greeting 'Happy New Year,' I find a certain clue. So, if the year is new, who is it new for? A new year is here now, and the new year was here last year also. A new year was here the year before that was, and before that was, before that was, before it was. Now comes a point that there is no experience of the new year. So, the one who's had these New Year experiences over the years is which one? So, if time is—if a year is a measure of time and time seems to present these new possibilities for us at regular intervals—then you who are tasting this flow of time, are you subjected to this time? If it is the year that you are in, and there is a new year that comes for you, but a new year it comes for you, a new minute it comes to you, a new second which comes for you, is the 'you' for whom it comes subject to it? And on the other hand, if you were not here, would there be this next minute, next moment, next year? Only in imagination. Even if in imagination, you have to be. So, you are actually the substratum.
So, this is another one of the mind's convictions. She will say that you are the one that is subject to time. Actually, you are the subject of time; time is the object. So, in this wonderful New Year appearance is appearing, all of you, I hope you know who is full-time in this year. And of course, as with every year, they will be mixed with some sugar and spice, so don't expect it to be only as we know that. Although in this world of duality all the ups and downs will come, but more and more we are starting to see that you are not addressed by time. You are not controlled by time. Even for time to exist, you must be. You. If there was no such thing as time, and one thing we will not have—okay to wish each other happy—but also you would experience yourself in your entirety. To ingest this moment, a dynamic aspect also is being stretched out seemingly with that which we call time, but actually nothing is moving. It is all already here. It is visiting it with our attention. The movement of this attention leads to what we call this time and space.
What is the screen on which all of this is? You might feel like it is outside you because you might believe that you are this body and the world where all this is happening is outside of you. But actually, you are just experiencing all of this on the screen of your own being. That is why whether you call it internal perceptions or outer perception, there's only one space in which you are perceiving them. This clear is too much refers the other thing. Let's becomes come on, Ananta, but he's in the first. You can't help myself. As we exist on this existence, all these perceptions are being perceived, isn't it? Their eyes are open like this, so this visual stimulus. Their eyes are closed, other stimuli can come. Of course, imagination, memory, you see? All of this is dependent on what? On your being, on your existence.
It's a beautiful example. Let the one charity in which light is this world in front of you now? In whose light is it? What is shining right now? What is that light without which nothing is? Is this physical light without which nothing is? Where is that light coming from in the light of which even the Sun is seen? The Sun is perceived in whose light? This is the glorious view that your being, your Atma, is the light of this universe. But this very same Atma is also given itself the power to believe that it is just some minor object, subject to time, limited in space. You. This is the only misunderstanding, and if you can clear it up in the first day, it's fine. Your presence has been taken to be something personal by presence itself, and now it is ridding itself of this misunderstanding through this play of Satsang.
Nothing is actually ever become limited or divided or separated. Therefore, nothing has to be fixed. Actually, only this misunderstanding has to be looked at. And so, to clarify the truth for yourself is thrown away. I was saying the other reason, if you believe—some of you, your first time—if you believe that you are in Koramangala right now and I say, 'No, you are in Indiranagar,' would I have to move you from Koramangala? But you are already here in Indiranagar, really. So, only the misunderstanding has to be thrown away. Only the idea of Koramangala has to be given up. Do we give up not to replace the belief that I am in that place with another belief that I am in this place, but actually checking where you are? So, you consider yourself to be limited, and now I'm pointing out to you that you are not. All you have to do is check and stay with whatever you find.
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So, the point is in Satsang, not to bring you to a new state. This can be one misunderstanding. 'Why can't I hold on to the state?' Sometimes I get questioned later that 'I have glimpses of it, but why can't I hold on to it?' Because it is not about that. See, all states can come and move. What is the substratum for those states? Can any state exist without you? This 'you' has been misunderstood as something personal. As why no practice is really needed, no movement is really needed, and no practice or movement can get in the way of whatever might be happening in this world can keep happening. Again, you really want to check on who you are. Nothing can really get in the way. I think that is the beauty of this. If you're convinced that you are in Koramangala, then you'll continue to play as if that is true. So, if your belief is that 'I am a body-mind, I am a limited entity,' then you might continue to play that way. Nothing can get in your way.
So, usually what happens is there must be some openness to drop the false beliefs. Many times it can happen that even for those who come to Satsang, it can happen that it is just some sort of the reinforcement they want, a reinforcement of a false little user. So, you might say that, 'Okay, just tell me how to be happy. Don't try to trick me or bring me to Indiranagar. I just want to be happy in Koramangala.' And I'm saying that did you have this misconception? It is not going to be the end of suffering because a lie just pinches you. There is bound to be a poking sensation in the play of this world as long as you believe in a lie about yourself. That is the design of this play. As I was saying to somebody else the other day, mostly we become open to Satsang because we have suffered in life. We have seen that all our belief system somewhere is not bringing us to that contentment, that peace that we are looking for. So, many times when you come to Satsang with that openness to drop the idea, even to say, 'I don't know where I am,' for me that is enough. But if you want somebody something for that one is seemingly sitting in the other place, how can anybody else? You see?
So now you can replace Koramangala with an basic notion: 'I am something, I am a person.' How many of us are willing to let go of this notion? That is openness. If you want freedom personally, then I can tell you that there is no such thing. Personal freedom actually is the mind's notion of freedom. 'I should have the freedom to do whatever I think I should have the freedom. If I think of a million dollars, I should have it. If I think that I should have the best relationship, I should have it. I should have the healthiest body, I should have it.' This is the mind's voice on freedom. What is the truth version of freedom? What is this? This is your freedom already. The appearance of this world is in your light. So, separation is nothing but resisting what is. Can you suffer without resisting what is? Possible? Unless we have an idea that the people in my family should be this way, but why are they that way? We cannot suffer because of that. What is, just is. They are how they are. But to have an expectation that it must be some other way is how we separate.
All these interpretations are a way to avoid what is, to resist what is. Now, some are suffering because of worldly appearance, the interpretation of worldly appearance. Some are suffering because of some idea of career or money. Some are suffering because some emotions are being experienced. But here it will go well. If he's experiencing fear, he's hardly ever saying that the fear right now is too much. The interpretation from the mind is convincing, but what if it doesn't go away in the future? Nothing. No present experience is ever too much because it is just a reflection of your own light, and your light is always stronger than the reflection. But it can start seeming like too much, and we believe our notions about them. I was joking with someone that if it is too much, even the design—in the design of this play, we lose consciousness. So then, if what is, is already true, and you are the light of this presence which contains all of this, then what you want next?
Can you want something without—so is picking up the idea that 'I am something limited' and the mind was coming for God? At least clarify that. So, whatever I say, that said in a very long way that you are God. See, you see, basically that's what I'm saying. Now, when the mind is offering or doubting, is it offering or doubting for God, or is it offering and doubting for a limited version of you? And as your direct experience resonates more with what I am saying than what the mind is saying, you are thinking about it, then what happened? If you are looking, then I hold it. The truth is inescapable. Now, I am saying that you are the super magnificent, this super luminous, glorious consciousness itself. Now, why would you want to become a special enlightened person or something? What you already are is all that you will ever be, and it is all there is. Not one inch you have to go, not one instruction you have to follow, not even a pointing is needed. Nothing at all to be. It's being. This being is playing the game of being misunderstood by itself.
I also notice that here the habit has become to share Satsang, so even when I'm going to break, something keeps coming. So then I post on Facebook what can be every day. The feeling is that it's a very, very useful pointer. I think that if you really must be something, then be space. Another way of saying what I've said for some time: just be open, just be space. Allow everything to come and go. What is space? Is it objecting to any object coming into this room or not coming? Is space wanting to do something about what is appearing or not appearing? But it is space. All things can come and go. All actions of this body can also come and go. Note that I am not saying the body has to become space. The identification is so deeply ingrained that when I'm saying 'be space,' you were trying to make the body like space. The body is also present, appearing in space, and it can do whatever it likes. You are this space in which all of this is appearing. You cannot resist as space. That's a beautiful quality of space.
Actually, to be like this space or see that we are, we have the spaciousness within us, is to be leaning into what it means to go on a silent retreat. It is not so much about this outward silence, but this inward non-resistance. How many of you feel that when he says 'be space,' which is some strange sort of instruction of Islam? This must be in second. If you don't feel that, then this pointing could be very helpful. Then you assign that route in this space is not none, and that you are noting though not nothing, but you are looking. It can sound like a reasonable pointer to what I'm pointing to. Just allow everything to just be. Just let it be. No need for any judgment. But if judgment is coming, let that also come. You don't have to meddle with anything at all. Just let it be. Maybe this year, instead of saying 'don't believe your next thought,' I say 'don't meddle with anything at all.' You don't have to fix anything, don't have to make anything better, don't have to get anywhere. Nothing to do. You don't even have to just be. You can take off the task.
Like a reasonable pointer to what I'm pointing to, just allow everything to just be. Just let it be. No need for any judgment, but if judgment is coming, let that also come. You don't have to meddle with anything at all; just let it be. Maybe this year, instead of saying 'don't believe your next thought,' I say: don't meddle with anything about you. You don't have to fix anything, don't have to make anything better, don't have to get anywhere. Nothing to do. You don't even have to 'just be.' You can take off the task 'I am just going to be.' You're not doing the being, so that don't mean that you could not do it. If you're not doing the being, does being for us stop? No. Being is just being naturally in its own self through energizing bodies. And then when being doesn't want to be anymore, nothing you can do to hold it up. But you will witness even that.
After you be, after you exist—after you exist, do you have to switch on the world? It comes on by itself. Do you have to switch on the movements of the world? It's also moving. Is this body separate from the world which is also moving? Heartbeats on its own; did you switch it on? Breathing happens also. Everything is happening naturally, effortlessly. This world is moving effortlessly. You are existent, and effortlessly you are aware of this existence. All your lordship was made up. Any time you pick up the idea that 'I have to do this' or 'not do this,' it's like you're believing yourself to be some imagined pet cat or something, and that cat has to do all. Today is the day for resolutions, so this is the wrong day to have this policy. I did something nicer: learn to be free from bondage. We need to be, or that is the intention. Or the idea that 'I must find freedom' itself can be the practical doing of things. But doing is done by who? Do you have to invent the notional entity called 'you' who then has to do them, or they can happen irrespective?
Of course, now these words are happening; they are being spoken automatically. So if you can put together a sentence—even the scientists say that to put together a coherent sentence is more complex than moving your hands and feet. Now you say words are just coming automatically, then why can't movements of hands happen? But it makes doing out of even not doing. I was just going to say that, right? I am glad you said it. Now you can say, 'Okay, Father said not to do, so I am going to just not do.' And even that, it doesn't succeed many times. But many times, Advaitins' tongues get stuck in this sort of 'doing the not doing.' You know what I'm saying? 'Don't do anything' means what? Wait, wait, this is a very good question for everyone. Don't do anything—what does it mean? Can you show me one moment of not doing anything? Even that would be doing the 'not doing,' you know? Even if you were able to resist activity, you know that you would be doing that through the being. So as long as this apparent world is there, it is a world of activity. Activity will constantly happen, you see.
So 'don't do anything' means you don't pick up the notion that there is an individual doer where there is no individual doer. That's why I said when you exist, the world comes on and the world is moving, and the world includes this body. So is there any such thing as not doing in the play of this world? It's all activity.
Yeah, I see this many times. The doing is happening, then the thought is coming and says, 'Well done.' And sometimes the thought is coming and saying, 'Oh no, you shouldn't be doing this,' you see. But the doing is happening. The thought is coming sometimes before, after, depending on what the mind wants to play. It gives it, you know, motivation or de-motivation. But I see this like thoughts are coming, even actions are coming, and both I see as appearances appearing on the screen of my being.
This also, you also see it the same way. Our seeing is the same, you and I, and yet our believing is different. So this 'seeing is believing'—if that was true, then we would not have to meet. It's some interpretation. What you see also is the same: you seeing all these actions happening on their own, just like thoughts are coming and going. So our seeing is the same. But our believing is the concepts in the mind saying, 'You should do this' or 'not do this,' 'It's not good,' 'This should not happen,' or 'I say good you did that,' you see? Right? All these questions, what is what, analyzing cause and effect, is only part of the play of the mind. It's a design of consciousness to believe itself to be something limited. So it should forget about cause and effect; that will become much simpler. You didn't catch me on that.
Therefore, this 'cause and effect' is a fallacy. It's one of my favorite things. Krishna was supposed to read it in the group, in your group that we started on your page. They said that one of my favorite examples from the Yoga Vashistha is this: a bird flies and lands on the branch of a coconut tree; a coconut falls. What is the conclusion? Immediately the mind rushes to: 'Because the bird landed on the branch, the coconut fell.' But it has no such knowledge. Both things just happened. It is just a presumption, and the mind has tried to give this many stories. 'It is because you think this way, that's why you act this way.' It also tries to make that linkage, isn't it? But now that you come to the truth, you know that many times action happens, but later the thought comes post-facto to take credit or blame. All these correlations are not there. Look at everything as energy within consciousness, then you don't have to subdivide it, you see.
If you hear this, see how much clarity you come to. What is the body? A set of sensations that we only put together and said, 'This is body.' It's basically a set of sensations. What is this world? The sensations of the body and other sensations which we call visual perception, and we call that 'world.' What is mind? You've taken one energy construct, or a few like thoughts, memory, imagination—you collected those and called that 'mind.' Besides these theoretical labels, these theoretical notions about them, is there a body, mind, or world? No, it's all one set of sensations. We were taught 'this is your body'; it was not natural to us. We were taught 'this is the world which is outside you'; it was not natural to us. We were taught 'this is the mind.' Maybe in satsang now, without these labels, what is there right now? Are you doing a role? No, no. Like, also a role is happening. I'm Father, yes, and you're asking the question, I am a son. So all these are roles, but even these are just theoretical notions. And 'I'm dying' is just a notion, or 'I exist' is a notion. All that is moving are waves on the ocean of consciousness.
So now that you have a notion of an 'outside world' and 'satsang world,' forget about that distinction. What is there? If you can ask a question there, you can. How come you have this distinction between the outer world and satsang, and you know how to perform in the world? Did you mean here or outside? Why is it that performance can happen here but not there? Just some energetic support, some energetic system seems to be there in satsang. But is that energetic system creating action? Please feel some—I'll say to have this freedom, the tank which created this faith here will take care of everything that has to happen there. If some peace is available to you in this room, then let me use that opportunity. Actually, what I go back to what I was saying: I was saying that what you are seeing and what I am seeing is the same. I am seeing a set of sensations, a set of perceptions. You also see the same. If you were not to make these subdivisions, then what is there? All these subdivisions are theoretical. That much is clear.
So if you were to keep all the theory aside, what is there? Before this concept was there, was it there like two seconds ago? You see? So it is not actually there. It is just a belief now. You want to believe in mythology or what is there? Then one tip is for you: just slow it down. In this slowing down, if fear is there, fear is there. Don't mix a notion of 'you' and 'them.' Then have that integrity. Here is the coconut; it is green. It means nothing to me because I don't find these notions with anything—the notion of 'me' and what it means for 'me.' Now this perception, I can see that some fear is being felt. So if it didn't have that link, it wouldn't be so heavy. Heavy means unbearable, and yet something is there which is bearing it. What is the complaint of that one? Who is going to see the one who is actually experiencing this pain? What is that one's complaint?
So this lawyer is representing that one. Something that has acted as a cat for so long, now seeing that there is no cat, but all it still continues to do is 'meow' like a force multiplier. And how it acts is like this: it convinces you that you must be fearful of the fear, and then fear seems a hundred times multiplied because we are fearing the fear. Because the verbal 'meowing' is very good. This is all suffering—it is 'meow.' Pain, of course, can be independent of that. Pain is a part of the appearance of this world as a sensation, but suffering is just 'meow.' So what you're seeing—this cat thing, really, what is the cat? So the cat knows and I'm not even leaving you with nothing; I am giving you God instead. What do you want? You want to be the cat? Go ahead. Or you want to be called an enlightened cat? The cat says, 'I just got this plain old one.' You want to be the cat that would always hear, would be the independent cat. Because even now this cat-mind will come and tell you that now you're using crutches of Father, using crutches of satsang. The 'meow' says, 'No, me, me,' and then all the 'meow' out of you.
As I read this, satsang is starting off too technical, you know? It's a very understandable example. So natural. When I say that, can you throw over all that you want to become? It is not because I want you to renounce; it is more a reminder of that which you already are. But your notion of becoming something is preventing your seeing of that which is all there is. Okay, if I said, if I came in the form of—why say some great sage came? Okay, so let's build the story more. If I announced on Facebook today, 'We will all have the darshan of the greatest sage today, everyone let's say one will come here.' He came in my dream last night and he said, 'You will have the physical darshan of the one today. All those who come to satsang, and in that satsang whoever comes in that one moment, they may be free.' And then the one came and said, 'You are free. Nowhere to go, nothing to do.' The truth about you would not have changed. It is still the same you always have been.
But one is immediately much the same thing every day. You read a book, when you read a quote and you just feel his presence in your heart, what are you hearing? Is he telling you that you are something that needs to become something free? What are you finding? What is your intuitive presence saying right now? It is your presence. But what is the notion saying? She says, 'Why is it so easy to pick up the phone and so difficult to stabilize the truth?' So if I say it's not difficult? So this notion, suppose, was here and difficult, so I pick it up for you. Are you into a fault now? No fault. What is more natural? If you want—so before the feeling, what is your insight? You know, you've got the question. When you checked, you said, 'Just what is, is true.' And then another notion came: 'But it doesn't feel like that.' Was that what it was? The false notion? Did the reality of you change? But prior to feeling, what do you see?
Because the habit is—wait, we have to go even beyond our feelings and our thoughts and see reality for what it is, uncolored by the quality of feeling. It's like saying, 'I saw that the sun comes from the east, but my thinking still is there that it comes from the west.' I see that I am unlimited, but I am still feeling limited. And that is why what is most important is your own inner insight, more than anything, more than any thoughts coming with what you find. So right now, tell me, where is your boundary? Is there any boundary? What speaking can be too much for you then?
And our thoughts and see reality for what it is, uncoloured by the quality of living by before. It's like saying, 'I saw that the Sun comes from the east, but my thinking still is there that it comes from the West.' I see that I am unlimited, but I am still feeling. And that is why what is most important is your own inner insight more than anything, more than a mental scanning with what you find. So right now, tell me: where is your boundary? There is no boundary. What speaking can be too much for you then, if you are the boundary-less now? Just stay with the feeling itself and tell me, what is it? Just like you're looking at an object only to interpret, you tell me about the feeling itself. We ask you, in your words—you're looking as possible not to what you are interpreting. We've got it. We ask you as possible to what you're finding rather than what your mind is indicating it to be. So feeling is there. Where is it appearing? Inside you? Outside? How big is this inside where this feeling is? Can I put one more feeling there? Does it have any more space? Until just a perception, now what is the perception hurting? The one that is perceiving it? Or how is the perception hurting the one that is perceiving it? As a rule, it isn't so. That is to you, you see, but then is coming from interpretation. Now you are seeing, so you want to play with that when I was gone. So that is the only link, good reason, if you don't meddle with them. Yes, because what can you do anyway? Yes, but isn't it your attempt to try and fix it even adding to the energy of that? Yes, but I am also telling you that you are like this wall. Anything that comes is no bigger than a small dot which is believing that it is. It is just that it becomes the central focus of our attention. And you see this habit with anyone those who haven't heard this example before. So just a big wall and they will black dot here. I see, what do you see? Ninety-nine percent will say 'black dot.' Who is a big wall? That is the nature of the interpretive mind: to make the negative seem so big now and to just ignore that godly spaciousness which is within you in which all this is coming in. If you binder, but you might as well say forever is a new. Even saying it is more difficult than it. You want to type? There is nobody who is playing the melody and saying it is so easy. Nobody. Whatever the situation life is, right in this room, hundreds can even seem really strong in this phenomenal world. Some more said that if there's something you can experience in this world, if it is to the level of ten, you are experiencing it at a ten. Things which are you want any sort of what life should bring to us. But even there in that situation, when we have a phone call, ever these truths posting the same that they can be pain, but they cannot be suffering unless you're believing yourself to be limited.
The second good news is that naturally in this moment you are empty of the notion. So we try the simpler now. The mind itself will come and say, 'Easier said than done,' but I am telling you that it is neither done nor said because it just is. Don't have a notion that you have to become something, get somewhere. Tears that, forget all this. What are you now? Are you a partner? Can't even find a bun or not. None of these you can. And yet what naturally comes to be clear to answer this question? We come. Atma will come. The mother is for me, yeah. Consciousness is not some stupid things, although that weakly, and you can never become smarter than that. Our idea that I have to be a certain way, it's time to value-add on to call. I'm going to become that special. If I can run my vibrator, then God can. You see, at one point I have to tell you that they're not just what there you have them as a role model. You or you, it's had some expectation that they should be a certain way with what they're showing of how they're always showing up in this movie is that they are playing that role. And if we keep fighting with that and saying, 'Oh, how can they be this way? Why are they red?' that is pointless. Even in the worldly way, you can have as a worldly kind of counselor having this conversation with you, I will tell you that this is meaningless. Why are you being this way and how could they be like this? Has never been the do anything productive. How hard is it? Let's do it now. They are as they are. Can we accept together till that accept them doesn't come? And I'm not saying they are good or bad or nothing. I'm saying they are as they are. Your father is always, a mother is how she is now. You want to live with an idea of them, but how they are. And maybe don't have a judgment about yourself. So maybe they're either extremely romantic and see, it's really easy to see how a partner is not so dramatic. 'Why can't we be like me?' But for them, you might be coming through losses. 'Why can't she be like us?'
What are you referring to? Your other aspect which based there's no point. Not a spectator is out there respected. Although this is playing now, you see now who's making those lines? I'm calling this 'me' and 'that.' A method in this conversation, there is an another aspect of you and then I have another aspect with you. Is there any reality to the separation? The movie is just what the movie is. You cannot take one part of the movie and say, 'This is me.' But I'm telling you that even in a worldly way, if I was speaking to you in a coffee shop, not in Satsang, I would have told you the same thing: that this is getting into 'Why are they like this?' was a pointless exercise. Nobody has an answer to this, why anything is fine. Why will you take my invitation to change the question from 'why' to 'who'? Is there not any evidence of somebody used to the start? There is no nobody, sir. So that is answer: nobody is there. What do you mean there is no answer to session? Just motion, just an idea that somebody is done. The answer is clearly the mind hates this question because of this. It hates the whole question because when you look, you can see nobody is done, nobody suffering, and the mind hates that. I've been trying to tell you the story, story of Aparna was so long, and you just checking. So what is Tom villain? How can it be stronger if the truth just takes a moment of checking? The truth must be stronger. If you have to do lots of effort to get to the truth, then that was the false must be stronger. Actually, the false is powerless. The real question is why don't we stop asking 'why'? 'Why' keeps us confused. It promises answers but it keeps a specialist who brings us clarity. The wonder 'Why am I this? Why am I?' is a very complicated question. I have, I will say, my favorite dances entertainment say somebody's say to experience itself as something. You see, all these answers are there for 'why.' 'Who' is very direct.
You, Ramana says analogy. Once we are in this space, is that enough? Because the mind will accept, expect some transformation which does not come through.
This is what actually what I've been saying: that you don't have to transform into the Self. You are the Self. You are not the caterpillar that has to transform into the butterfly. You are the butterfly who has the misconception that you are the caterpillar. Nothing really has to change, just a misunderstanding has to be dropped with our Atma Gyan. Very beautiful true knowledge is only a dropping of the false. Don't have to pick up anything new. In your motionless existence, nothing is missing. You are complete and more than complete.
Sada says, 'I want to write you something but it's just a thought.' Don't okay, you can write while she's writing there and I can treat it. The next question: 'How do we carry this state to doing our daily work?' You answer the bit of that. How are you doing this right now? If there's somebody actually doing in the listening is happening effortlessly. Your eyes might be moving, your head might be nodding, your hands might be made the mistake of motion that an imagined entity has been doing something. If the one that is being drawn, consciousness will move these waves as consciousness sees fit. So neither doing or not doing because would do not apply to you. Both are just appearances in your life. So is chopping wood, splashing water has to happen, then it will continue to have or not. The fear behind this question actually is that what if it stops? What if it stops? At least with a equaled motion about myself, I have been managing some things in life. What if that goes away? This is the fearful. That's why Guruji has given us this reassurance that nobody has come who has come to this truth about themselves as it is rated it said, 'Take this away, I'm not able to run my daily lives.' Nobody has come back. What needs to happen will happen. Consciousness has been the tool and the experiencer of all things always.
The truth is so big and sometimes I look at you and I see you as lottery winners. Okay, well firstly no, you must be kidding. We'll see it. I mean no, no, can't be. You're pulling a prank, isn't it? I'm introducing you to your God presence and because the habit has been to identify with something personal for so long, initially it can seem like, 'No, no, you're just making me feel no matter. I'm not in your state yet.' You don't say you like that, but I'm not saying any of that. Without moving in English, without picking off any idea about yourself, one naturally the Self, which consciousness suggests an aspect, the light of this universe, is just a part of you, of the oneself. This is your truth and I'm saying check the log ticket for yourself. Check on yourself and find out what you are. Don't go the feelings of either disbelief on Johnny. Either of these are a little see with what you find. Thing about yourself is like I'm saying you won the lottery and using put my feeling is not confirming that. I think you have the ticket, check. No, nobody marketing is not that way. How to show you the truth if you continue to make a benchmark about yourself? So the quality of the interpretation of those themselves don't have to do anything at all is surrender within that sense of not picking up the dual identity you leave. There's a trusted whatever is is just willing to take care of itself. Now since you got this dual identity, have all activity stops from the body? I just saw you coming in a car. So sure this awful activity continued to happen if you went to the end of this. So as you are empty of this motion of the ocean and nothing is needed, nothing at all. These lives therefore I will put actually surrender even before inquired. Sometimes the mind's version of self-inquiry can come with this form of how could you just give up on think while trying to make a Katie use something out with you this as long as you're not confusing not doing it like the activity of not doing. As long as you can see that either doing or not doing does not apply to the reality of me, all of this has been just moving on its own.
Evening of beautiful, just you know, little surprise. Okay, yes, I'm so oh this is just this is just an experience of having now. How did what did I have to do to interview so I what I hear you're saying is I think what I'm hearing a saying it's not I don't know experience I'm hearing how you're saying it is just if it sounds like just remain in this openness see let all so if you are doing something then value this openness for now.
One says the question is not there is an out of fear but the effort it takes to earn your living it seems to be in contrast to being himself. Sometimes for some of you, especially when strong resistance is coming up, being in Satsang is the worst thing. You feel like, 'I would rather just go and move a mountain or something than come and sit in such strong resistance.' Which is sometimes when you're feeling very light and easy them said something to me so so you'll find that it is not about work asset son which is effort or effortless but the idea of being the doer or not. This duel is such a sticky thing that you checked on yourself million times and you found that there is no individual entity there and then you say, 'Okay, I see that there is nobody here. Now what do I do?' And many can't even...
And move a mountain or something, then come and sit in such strong resistance, which is sometimes when you're feeling very light and easy. Then something is said to me, so you'll find that it is not about work as such, which is effort or effortless, but the idea of being the doer or not. This doer is such a sticky thing that you checked on yourself a million times and you found that there is no individual entity there, and then you say, 'Okay, I see that there is nobody here; now what do I do?' And many can't even hear the contradiction in that question because it is so sticky. It's like saying, 'I don't exist; now what should I do? I see there is no cat; now what is the cat doing?' It's like this.
So the only answer to the doer notion is to ask: Who? The debate of free will versus God's will is never-ending. I have had many years of experience with this, right from my days when I used to pay homage. You can keep debating whether the individual entity has free will, the Jiva is free, or everything is completely running by God's will. But till you see that there is no individual man, it is just a notion. I am something? All there is, is Atma itself. Yeah, what is it? Jiva and Brahman are not different. The ultimate reality and that which you are are one. Once you see this, then what happens to the question of free will?
So the question of free will arose, answered by the question: Who? Whose free will would it be? If you had some, whose would it be? Suppose I am distributing ten grams of free will to all of you; who is there to take it? There's a watermelon. When these people have three eyes or two, does it have freedom? There is none. Isn't that the answer? There is no individual, so the one that could have free will doesn't exist. And the one that you are is the only one that has the only one will, which belongs to that which is.
And you are doing this checking. I can see it is a physical person, but this is essence-less. It is neither the notion... when they spoke about nothing or no-thing, they were talking about you being essence-less. That idea itself is easy because it is clear to all of us. You see, no matter what the starting point of this might be—you might call that from which everything comes Brahman, the Absolute, or the Atman, or that which is just aware, or you might even take the Being itself to be the starting point—it is clear to any of us, even a child, that I am not a thing. So this is no-thing.
Why I don't like the word 'nothing' is because it conveys this sort of essence-lessness. Now, your essence, you might come to see that it is existence, or that which is even prior to existence, but it is not the absence of something. It might be the absence of all things, but it in itself is the presence of awareness or the presence of the Self. So because there are no things there, some have called it nothing, and some like me prefer the word no-thing. Now, that which is checking, that is witnessing even your existence, is that a thing? What is it? Is it a thing, or is it just nothing like essence-less? There is no such thing, you know, that which is.
Now, when we just see this, I don't think that there is no need to check. No, no, that's not the point. I'm not talking about that which it is finding. Yeah, that one, that which is doing the finding itself, what can we say? Which is one?
So who's there?
Yes, so is that nothing? Is that...
No, no. What is a thing? Exactly, exactly. It is very small. Yes, it is not physical. It does not have those qualitative attributes like things do. You are that which is beyond qualities and attributes. So as what is... as I started saying, if you have to be something, if you have to be something, then be space, unresisted to everything. Then even that need to be something will drop, then you will see that even space you are not.
In my mind, I was just watching you.
Exactly, that's what I mean. You are watching, yeah. You cannot take any... 'I was watching my trip.' Even though the recognition of this total formlessness, seeing this, there isn't the same formlessness which is again clicking on the side here because it doesn't seem so directly like that. It is because first this feeling arises of Being, I play as 'I am,' and then it starts picking up 'my head.' That's why although in reality there is no distinction, we have the insight of that which is beyond this universe, yeah, and yet we want to apply that to one form and sit in it. Like you said now, suppose it meant nothing to Jyoti Ma's life. This is what I meant when I said truth for truth's sake, not for the byproducts of it.
Now you are coming to the recognition of what you are. If you, Jyoti Ma, are coming to it, then why should your body change or action change? Even if you are being just rational about it and not intuitive, wouldn't this question be logical? That if that which is beyond this play of name and form is coming to the recognition of its own Self, then why should that which we have given a name and form respond to that? Does it have to have a correlation? It's not that it doesn't have a correlation; does it have to have it? It cannot, cannot, depending on how one system wants to play.
When it seems like two distinct things...
Exactly, exactly what I'm saying. So if you were to talk this cause and effect thing: 'I see the truth, therefore now I must act more loving, therefore I must now see this thing.' Because the two eyes are still different; one is the Absolute and one is still this body-man. Then to draw some sort of equality or proportionality in saying that if this is the match... no, no meaning. If this recognition is, then this creation... but I've never said that. I'm just telling you that there is no basis for buying that story. And this story is keeping us in this because we are acting like this.
When you compare neutrality with the grease, we really keep saying, 'No wonder, then it must not be true. What I'm finding is wrong.' So just give it some room. We were in Rishikesh, and I was sitting with some of the people there. And you know, somebody will be crying and she will be like, 'Why does Father do the silent retreat? Even Rupert doesn't make silent retreat. He has to keep doing one of them. What's happening to these people? Are they alright?' So then I was explaining to them: you depress so much emotion, all this, and you give an environment where all this can come out in your own silence. Then he looked at me: 'Do you ever feel any joy?'
He asks some questions again and again. He says again and again, 'I go to satsang to drop pieces of this movie called my life. At the same time, I see that this movie is made up. I see that the only way is to drop it completely and not drop only pieces and scenes of it.' I just want you to tell you that otherwise it can feel like I'm just emptying my pockets every time. So drop the one who is doing the talking.
He said, 'So till Shivani comes this time here, we are allowed to speak one day later.' So we said that first day didn't work out. I didn't plan it that way, just thought I was going to type something. Then she probably feels it is not important. It's good, it's good. That feels... you know that movie with Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson? Jack Nicholson is the colonel, and he says, 'You can't handle the truth!' Can you handle the truth? I feel like saying that. I need this close. You are God. And if that seems too much, at least can you let me do this? That no matter what is happening, God is.
I've seen the other day, whatever your story about your man-self might be, you can always end with saying, 'But what is here?' Whatever your doubt might be, you can say, 'God is here.' Now some have a cultural problem with the term God because it's been conditioned in the wrong way, so we can say consciousness is here, a Being is here. It's not about terminology. I don't care what word it is. That which is the supreme intelligence, the light of the universe, is here. If that was also coming and going, then I would give up. The fact is that the truth is not coming and going. The Self is not coming and going. You are not coming and going.
So this Father, I can be here and I'm happy for the time. But Father, you asked me to get a certificate from Rishikesh, and I said I want to meet you in person, and I see my body expressions reflecting the mind which does not want this. Don't pick up this burden of trying to control some expression and what it is. Conveniently just come like a little baby. This Mother is not judging the infant by the expression that it has on its face. Why then the tickets doubled in price one day earlier? Yes, yes. So you know, you don't know. Doesn't mean I can't use it.
What's on this thing? What's right? I'm okay if this is going to be like this, then I'm back to you all. So much for being in satsang today. Mooji Baba Ki Jai! Satguru Sri Mooji Baba Ki Jai!
The Thread Continues
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