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Then What is Satsang For? - 15 Apr 2016

April 15, 20169:1117 views

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Ananta guides seekers to move from mental complexity toward simplicity, emphasizing that satsang is not for conceptual gain but for Consciousness to recognize its true nature as Awareness.

Spirituality is not about taking on more conceptual understanding, but getting used to checking what is really here.
Satsang is not to help the person free itself; it is just a play Consciousness plays with itself.
Awareness is always aware and not deluded; pointing is for that which plays as if it is a person.

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Transcript

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Ananta

The way of the world is to go from that which is simple to that which is more complex, more difficult—a level one, level two, level three. The way to build a foot-piece in this world is to go from that simplicity to more and more inside through complexity. But the way of this Satsang, the view of spirituality, true spirituality, is to go from that complexity into more and more simplicity. And if you find that something is grasping to understand, something is trying to get some conceptual expertise, let me know that can be dropped because nothing that I am saying actually needs to be understood in that way, you see.

Ananta

So even when I say 'please understand,' what I really mean is 'please look.' Because nothing here really is abstract. To the mind, it is completely unfathomable and therefore it seems totally abstract, but to you, the reality that you are, nothing is extraordinary here. That is talking about you, you. So it's not that we must take on more and more conceptual understanding, but more and more get used to just checking for ourselves as to what is really here. And if you notice that there is something like a grasping for more and more understanding, even that can be dropped because in that there is this sense that 'I will now, today, I picked up these new concepts; tomorrow I'll pick up some more; maybe in a few weeks of Satsang I will really have got it.'

Seeker

Father, your sound is a little bit low on my end. A little bit close to... now?

Ananta

Oh, tonight's so much... how's it now? That's better? Thank you very much. Maybe I just... below that, okay. I speak like this, it's okay for you there? Okay, great, great. I got used to this mic now and I'm like... usually how I speak outside Satsang is raised off like this. No, no, I'm just kidding.

Ananta

So what were we saying? There will be the sense that this Satsang is good because every day I can pick up some new spiritual concepts and in a few weeks that I will have my bag full. Then it's not really the same Satsang. I mean, it's in some sort of a mental Satsang where these words are just being picked up, said, 'Yeah, this one sounds good, so let me collect this one. This one, okay, I knew before, so this can go. This one I don't really agree with, so this can be kept aside.' So a disagreement actually must not come from a fight between concepts, you see. A disagreement must not come from 'this is what I believe versus this is what you say,' you see. A disagreement, if any, must come from this sense that 'I checked on what you see and I find that it is not true.' This is beautiful contemplation and always reveals something.

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Ananta

We often... there can be some confusion about non-doership, you see. Personal non-doership, which is then 'who is the pointing and searching for?' This confusion can remain actually for a long time for many of us because on one hand we say there is nothing for you to do. Who is that referring to? It is referring to that which does not exist. The person that does not exist obviously cannot do anything. When we say that 'don't try to do anything,' it means don't believe in this sense of personal doership.

Ananta

Then what is all of the pointing for? The idea still remains sometimes that this Satsang, as Satsangs in general, will help the person free itself from personhood. The idea can remain sometimes that Satsang is to help the person free itself from personhood, but this is not the case. Satsang, like everything else in this realm, is just the play that Consciousness is playing with itself. So I'm going to repeat one more time so that... because I know this is some sort of a sticky confusion for many of you. So let's look at it really step by step.

Ananta

Awareness, always aware, is not deluded, is not confused, cannot play near rules, is not operating actively in this realm at all. It is just the primal witnessing of this entire play. With me? Is it too early in the morning to share? Awareness is always aware. It cannot be playing the game of delusion and freedom. It cannot be an active participant in this realm of appearances. So then what has to be done to Awareness? Is some pointing for Awareness? No, obviously not. Awareness is just aware. It is the unborn, undying, Absolute, ultimate, whatever you want to call it. That one. No Satsang is needed for Awareness, you see.

Ananta

Therefore, when we point to Awareness, what is the purpose of it? When we point to Awareness, when we say 'are you aware now?' it is for that which is playing as if it is a person in this realm, for it to play the game of recognition of what it truly is.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.