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The Only Choice Is to Not Go Along With Your Thoughts - 22nd June 2016

June 22, 201612:3983 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta advises dropping all mental voices when confused by practical choices. He teaches that by not believing the next thought, the illusion of personal doership dissolves into the singular movement of consciousness.

If it is hard to distinguish between the mind and the spirit, it is better to drop both.
The only choice you have to make is not to believe what your thoughts are telling you.
Life always moves in the way it is meant to move; the presumed decision-maker is false.

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Transcript

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Seeker

So I had some confusion come up recently and I need to, I feel called to get it resolved. I have, I actually have two questions, but I'm going to start with the one thing that I'm pretty confused about. And that is, you know, when you... let's say you're trying to figure out some practical issue, and that's not the only place where this came up, like whether I should quit my job and move on to do something else or something like that. And I'm getting to a point where I'm not sure because there's always two voices: one telling you to do one thing and one telling you to do another thing. And the inquiry doesn't seem to work really well there because you don't know which voice to trust.

Seeker

And then today, too, like I was going for a walk and suddenly this insight, what felt like an insight, came that like really ever since I started walking on this path, the only thing that I really... you can be sure of is that I don't know anything. But then I started wondering if this was... I usually don't... not even this we can be sure of, right?

Ananta

Right, that's exactly right.

Seeker

And then I was like, is this really an insight or is this my mind telling me that I don't know anything? So that's the question is, I don't know if there's any voice in there that's trustworthy anymore.

Ananta

As long as it is not clear which voice is the Satguru's voice, drop both of them. If it is hard to distinguish which is the voice of my mind and which is the voice of my intuitive presence—the spirit, the Satguru, whatever word you want to call it—then it is better to drop all voices because your intuitive presence is not in a rush. It is not expecting an outcome, right? Then I know that the mind sometimes poses very effectively, very authoritatively, as if it is your spiritual guide or spiritual master. So in fact, especially after you start coming to Satsang, the mind will start taking the words of Satsang and start saying that this is what you must do now. See, you're believing your thoughts; you're not supposed to believe a next thought. The mind itself starts playing as if it is the intuition.

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Ananta

Yeah, you're completely right that there comes a time where it seems a bit indistinguishable between the voice of the mind and the voice of the presence, the intuitive presence. So it is best in those cases to drop both of them. Don't go with any voice. Don't believe anything. And just see that life continues to unfold in some way or the other. And then what might happen is that as you stop believing any words, you will find that this intuitive sense becomes stronger and stronger. But the funny thing about intuition is that as it gets stronger, our interest in trying to control our life in practical matters also reduces.

Ananta

So I can't actually imagine going to the Satguru within and asking what to do about my job. That inquiry is not there. You know that whatever is moving is happening through His will, through the Divine will. And then what you will find is that as this intuitive voice becomes stronger, you will not be able to make use of it for anything seemingly personal. You see that it's here just so that it can share this presence, share the words of Satsang, and point all those who come to your presence to the truth of who you are and who they are, which is one. So that's just a bit funny about this: that as this intuitive presence becomes clearer, more obvious, and natural, you find that your interest in trying to control the movement of the flow of your life and seeking guidance about what your next step should be actually reduces.

Ananta

So you find that... okay, I'm going to share this very candidly with you. I know without a doubt that this intuitive presence knows the future. I know without a doubt that this intuitive presence knows the future, and sometimes it does give you a message about it and things like this. But I cannot find it here to refer to it and say, 'Please tell me what's going to happen tomorrow, what's going to happen in a month.' I just don't have that. I find it very funny even when I hear reports about, you know, you can predict and say this is what the future will be like, this is what you must do. Because here I just don't have that sense. It sort of is like this entity of the presence here is broken if I go to it with some sort of personal requests and personal ideas. And just this also: the personal fear about what's going to happen here, about money or relationships or the body—the sense of fear about it is gone. It does not seem like this concern about what's going to happen to this body, to the money, or to relationships exists here.

Ananta

So as you go through this and you hand over power from the mind to the presence, you will find that we wish that we had a voice which could tell us what to do and what the future will be like. But when that presence becomes strong, that interest in wanting to know what to do and what the future looks like itself starts to vanish to a great extent.

Seeker

So until this intuition deepens, like you're saying, should we practically... would you say that just going with any course of action and just trusting God and just saying, 'Okay, this seems right,' and then just picking one and not getting too much caught in a mental space, is that sort of what you would recommend?

Ananta

If this is what I would say, just to make it simpler for you, it is exactly what Bhagavan also said, which is that as long as you feel like you have some choice, as long as you are still believing that you are the doer of your action, then make the choice but to not go along with your thoughts. That is the only choice you have to make. When I say don't believe your next thought, actually it makes all of this quite simple. At least that's how it seemed here. I know that we have reported it's not so simple, yeah. But what it feels like here is that as long as the sense that 'I can do something, I have some choice' remains, the only choice I have to make is not to believe what my thoughts are thinking. Everything else is moving on its own. And in this just letting go of the next thought, we find that this concept of choice-making and doership itself starts to lose power.

Ananta

So all you do is not believe a next thought, no matter what the situation is, no matter what the world is expecting from you. You don't know whether you're going to go into your job and say 'I quit' or 'I'm going to stay for ten years.' Mooji shares this too. Then a supervisor at the college or school came to him and said, 'You have to do this, you have to do this.' He just found this mouth saying, 'I quit, I can't do this.' Where did that come from? Hmm? Yeah.

Ananta

So life always moves in the way it is meant to move. It is the presumed choice-maker, the presumed decision-maker, which is false. In believing our next thought, we take on the role of this presumed decision-maker, imagining decisions. But you will come to the discovery that there is no such thing. All of this world is actually one movement of Consciousness. There is also a law in physics which says that every time we change the energy level of one atom, the rest of the universe has to adjust itself energetically to that change of energy. So every atom is interrelated. So imagine that when we warm up our hands a bit, we're changing the energy of the universe and every atom between here and back. So this physical realm, even physicists are coming to similar conclusions as Advaita, to see that all of this is one interrelated movement. Just like there is one ocean but seeming waves. When the wave is going up and it's crashing against the rock, it thinks, 'I am crashing against the rock.' But there is no wave; there is only ocean. There is no wave separate from the ocean. The discovery comes that this oneness is the only Being, one Consciousness movement.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.