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The Mind Doesn’t Stop, It Only Becomes Irrelevant - 2nd June 2016

June 2, 201615:55115 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta emphasizes that freedom is the recognition of our true nature as awareness, beyond the mind's grasp. He points out that the mind doesn't need to stop; it simply becomes irrelevant once we stop believing its stories.

What we are discovering about ourselves is that we are truly out of this world.
The mind doesn't go; it only becomes irrelevant.
You are not this person; you are that which is aware of even this being.

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Transcript

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Ananta

What we are discovering is such a giant leap for the mind that it tries to box it in in some way. It tries to make it more worldly in a sense. What we are discovering about ourselves is that we are truly out of this world. So in our attempt to understand it, many times we just stay with our spiritual concepts and again build this spiritual box around ourselves, a spiritual identity about ourselves. Because in reality, we are not located here. We are not to be found here. In this realm of time and space is not where we are. And the mind can only understand this, or at least pretend to understand this, as if one day it will show itself to be an objective appearance. Then it is bound to be disappointing.

Ananta

And I don't know—I have to say I don't know what it is that allows us to leave this mind behind and just look at what we are. That's what one calls Grace. Because if there was a specific recipe, that would be so simple. We just published the recipe for freedom; anyone reading the recipe would then find it. Because what we can do is keep pointing, keep using some arrows to say, "This way, this way," knowing fully well that it cannot be the outcome of a particular direction. What is it that will force us to give up on this mind? How many tries using the mind does it take for us to ultimately give up? Nobody knows this number.

Ananta

Therefore, what happens is we have this sense of carrying this seeker identity on our backs, this mind on our backs, and we want to sneak into the gate of freedom. "What can I do? It is not going, the mind." This is the common objective: "This mind just doesn't go." But I never said it will go. If I said the mind will go, then what is going to happen? If the mind also doesn't stop, what is it that should happen? It only becomes irrelevant. So the trouble with this is that it is the thing, the energy which has been given to the mind, that has to become irrelevant. Anything that it is saying, it comes to a point of irrelevance.

Ananta

So when that point comes, nobody knows. I can keep saying till the end of the world, "Keep pointing to consciousness, to awareness," but when it is recognized that I am this, I can be nothing else. Just like saying, "When was the time that my children will try to drop its belief in the imaginary friend?" Nobody can say. So when is it that we will drop our beliefs? It must be now. It must be now. Did I see it only now? Speaking in terms of time, nobody can really tell. The point is that even with any pointing, including not believing your next thought, you very quickly believe that "I must do this now." You pick up the one who is not believing—the idea of the one who is not believing their thoughts.

Ananta

As long as we are looking for some mental solution to this conundrum, it is not going to appear. And maybe thank God that it doesn't appear. It cannot be a part of the mental solution. Just this giving up on the mind: "Okay, say whatever you want, I don't care." This is going to be the end of conditioning and the new conditioning. As long as we keep posing as this mind, the mind says, "This is what I feel about this, and this is what I feel about this." Play-acting will not stop.

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Ananta

I don't feel that in ten years the real substance of what will be shared from here can really change. Only the hair would have gone, right? But the substance of what has been said—although the expression has changed over the last three years also—the substance of what has been shared is not changing. What is it fundamentally? That you are not this person. You are not enclosed in the body. The presence of being here is undeniable, and you are that who knows or is aware of even this being. That which is awareness cannot be bound in any way. All of this is a play of consciousness believing itself to be a person or recognizing its source to be awareness itself.

Ananta

So the question to consciousness is: which way do you want to play? Spiritual seeker? Trying to find a clean person? Or none of this? At least I don't feel that the recognition should be trouble. Using the simple pointers: "Can you stop being?" "Are you aware now?" For those of you who've been in Satsang for a while, I don't feel the recognition is trouble. The instinct of checking... I feel the recognition is very clear. It is just that this conditioning still seems to hold its way. Ultimately, even those who have agreed to Satsang with some openness for some time, I'm quite sure will testify and say that "When I check, I know that this is true."

Seeker

What do you see then? What is it that is not done? What is still left to be done?

Ananta

No, good. But what could actually help to get that done? If God wants to play as name and form, as spiritual seeker, as an enlightened person, a student, a teacher... this play in this realm alone, seemingly, is playing as seven billion different expressions. Every expression unique, with different ideas about themselves. So they believe unique expressions of the one being. Everyone mostly believing, "This happened to me, this is my story, this is my life, this is my plan." Some of us also have plans for freedom. The plan is just the next thought.

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