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The Great Knowingness Cannot Be Known - 31st May 2016

May 31, 201621:3456 views

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Ananta guides seekers to drop the 'calories' of mental conditioning and spiritual concepts. He points toward the natural state of awareness that exists before the mind's labels, where no separation between self and existence can be found.

Whatever we know is adding to the calories of the ego; true knowingness cannot be mentally understood.
Conditioning is as simple as attaching a condition to 'I am.'
The next thought will come and try to sell you an idea; don't buy.

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Transcript

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Ananta

If there's a gift I can give you, it will be the gift to be able to forget about all that you know. Just forget it. It is not the truth. Whatever it is that we know is not the knowingness. That's what's funny, isn't it? Because the knowingness is the great unknowable. That which is the knowingness itself cannot be known. True knowingness cannot be mentally understood. So at best, whatever is spoken in satsang, whatever anyone has said, at best they are pointers. They are thorns used to remove other thorns and then to be thrown away. There is no ultimate truth in that way. Not even to say 'I am that' is not the ultimate truth. And whatever we know is adding to the calories of the ego. Whatever we know are just calories of the ego. The good news is that all we have to do is not pick up new ones.

Ananta

So, Gara went to the US and then she got me this fitness tracker. So it keeps track of all the calories burned, and if you enter the food consumed, and also then you know that at the end of the day you burned more. So like this, we see that the good news is that you don't have to go and have an operation, although satsang is like an operation. The recognition of the truth in this instant is like an operation which removes prior conditioning. The presence of the Master is like an operation which removes prior conditioning. Conditioning means what? That I have attached a condition to 'I am'. I am something. Conditioning is as simple as that, you see. So as long as this conditioning is there, that I am something, then we must make all effort—I know this will sound very non-Advaita to many of you—but make all effort not to pick up any new idea. No new calories for the ego.

Ananta

Oh, but this is too difficult for me. It never works. It sounds like a teaching, it sounds like an instruction. All these are also ideas, you see. Because in this moment, your diet is done. You are in that perfect balance between burning and consuming in this moment, you see. Are you going to pick up that dessert coming on the tray now? And are you going to pick up that which says, 'No, no, I must not pick it up'? It's not even that, you see. You don't want the 'dieter' identity. To get rid of all the calorific content of the ego would not mean that I become the dieter. It only means that I become nothing. Even this much to say, although it felt like it would be such a simple explanation, actually makes it seem a bit confusing, you see.

Ananta

So what am I really saying? I'm saying the next thought will come. It will come. The next thought will come, it'll come and it'll dance in front of you. And in the dance, it will sell you something. It'll tempt you with some idea. Don't buy. And if you buy, what to do? Nothing. The next thought will come, it'll dance in front of you. It'll try to sell you an idea. Don't buy. And that moment is the dropping of the presumption that I am something, including the idea that 'I'm not buying' must not be bought. No spiritual idea. Very quickly, the seeker or the ego try to find refuge in something spiritual. Yes, all this is getting cut off, but he will not mind if I go to a scripture or something and start consuming that. But there comes a point where you have to say, 'Not even that.' You are your own scripture now. Your own insights from the presence, uncontaminated by the mind, are as scriptural as the greatest scripture. You don't need anything.

Ananta

So at best, the use of these concepts is to allow us to uproot and release all other concepts. Just taking that diet metaphor even further, I heard that there are some foods that you can eat which not only have no calories—and she'll know—which not only have no calories or very few calories for themselves, but also when they're being digested, they help the body in burning a lot of calories, you see. So that is satsang, you see. If you're not making a spiritual framework out of them, not making spiritual concepts out of the words in satsang, and you allow them to be heard on their own, just like they're being spoken on their own, then it will not add to any sort of conditioning.

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Ananta

Possibly the worst thing that can happen is that satsang could be shared and then the mind is interpreting everything, everything. And then what we remember from what was being shared, or what is assimilated from what was being shared, are these mental interpretations, you see. Our idea about what was being shared. And if you remove this interpreter, you see, then I feel like satsang is just so clear actually. Just so clear. Because what are we pointing to? Don't believe your next thought. Does it need any addition, subtraction, interpretation? Can you stop being now? Simple. Doesn't need any interpretation, not even a report card that this happened. Are you aware now? These are just the pointers which need no additional content to make it clearer or something.

Ananta

The additional content that is shared in satsang actually is just to get rid of any ideas we might have picked up about these very simple pointings. And I ask you: Are you aware now? You know it is yes. I don't even care what your mouth is saying actually, because I know you know it is yes. It is yes. That's it. You had the darshan of yourself. The Self has had the darshan of the Self. And the mind wants to come and gatecrash into the party later and say, 'Nothing happened.' But nothing? What do I see? Is this freedom? Can I keep this? I must forever be like this. All this is just the mind wanting to gatecrash the party because it's feeling left out.

Ananta

Are you aware now? You see, nothing to confirm this that you are aware. You did not see awareness as an object, and yet you know you are aware. You say, 'I am aware of something.' So it doesn't matter what the 'of' is, but what are you aware of? It seems like such a simple phrase, 'aware of', but what is this 'aware'? You cannot understand it. You will never be able to understand mentally what is this 'aware'. You say, 'I am aware of it. I'm aware of the world. I am aware of my presence also.' Some of you can say that. What are you? You are aware. The 'of' is not relevant because the 'of' is changing. But what are you? Are you an entity that is aware? Who is that entity that is aware of sleep, of waking, of dream? Bodies are changing, worlds are changing, happenings, events are changing. There is something and then there is nothing. All this is moving about. What is? Is there an entity that is aware of them?

Ananta

Who are you in your deep sleep state? In sleep state, is it your experience that you are an entity that is sleeping? It is our experience that there is nothing, no? Is there? Who is it that knows the difference between sleep and waking, that is aware of? Therefore, when you check, 'Am I aware?' you say, 'Yes, I am aware.' This 'I' that is aware, is it separate from the awareness itself? No. There are no two. There is just I. No attributes, no color, not empty or full, no description, no label. What am I aware of then? Then the play of 'of' starts. Then the play of 'of' starts. I'm aware of my own existence. I exist. I am. But the 'I' changed? It became 'I exist', but the 'I' did not change. That for which there was even the distinction between existing and not existing, that 'I' did not change. Only the sense of existing seems to appear, and within this sense of existence, of being, this whole phenomenal existence seems to arise. There is nothing outside of this existence. Nothing phenomenal outside of this existence that you are in.

Ananta

None of this so far has there been any opportunity for delusion, you see. The appearance of the world is still not the opportunity for delusion. That which we call the mind—there's no separation there, no two, no sense of me or mine and other and theirs—without the appearance of this energy that we call the mind. Just I am. Just I am. Everything can appear like to a baby, to a child before they are two, two and a half years old. Everything can appear. Pain can appear, external images can appear, fear can appear, but the sense of me and other does not exist. The sense of separation does not yet exist. And this is true right now. Right now there is no sense of me and another. Anything can appear. Images can come outside, seemingly outside, or images can come seemingly inside as imagination, emotion, sensation. Everything can appear. Is there some distinction? Unless you label it, unless you have a thought about it, unless you call the body 'body' and the space 'space', is there a distinction between the body and space? It's just part of one appearance, one existence, which is shining with the light of my presence, you see. When you are, it is. When this sense of existence, 'I exist, I am', is not there, nothing exists, or more accurately, no-thing exists.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.