The End of Suffering is Often the Motivation for Coming to Satsang - 22 Apr 2016
Saar (Essence)
Ananta explains that suffering is rooted in the false belief in a personal identity. He guides the seeker to recognize that they are the nameless, formless awareness, untouched by thoughts or appearances.
The end of suffering is not personal; it is the end of the person identity.
It is impossible for you to suffer unless you believe a thought about yourself.
The belief in my existence as a somebody is the root of all suffering.
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Transcript
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Father, I think here it is still someone trying to get something and then end suffering. I think here it is still as someone trying to get something, that something being an end to suffering, because I noticed recently there was an expectation of love—not devotional love—and also to the feeling it is more not motivated by finding out who I am. Well, to expose this, Father, actually no, still just a belief that then someone exists.
If you can say that there is some motivation in this beginning of this spiritual search for self-discovery, the most common motivation is this one: 'I don't want to suffer anymore. I want it easy.' And most spiritual paths are full of practices and concepts and teachings which help us to come to the end of suffering. In satsang like these, we've come to this directness where we can say, 'Oh, suffering... the cause of suffering is only the belief in an idea about myself.' How do we give this belief to ideas about ourselves? Only by believing our thoughts. No idea about myself is really about myself, not about my true Self. All ideas are about this personal identity. So anytime we pick up an idea about ourselves, we are picking up some personal identity because all ideas are personal. Even the idea that 'I still only want freedom from suffering and not self-discovery' is an idea about who? It's about an entity, a seeming entity which does not exist. Easy.
So you say, 'But here it is still as someone trying to get something,' and what you mean is that you're believing in the existence of this someone which you yourself said is just a belief that this someone exists. But there is nobody like this. There is nobody called Shivani; there is nobody called Ananta in reality. And we looked and we looked and we looked for this somebody and we found that it does not exist. So how can this non-existent nobody come to the end of suffering? The suffering is only the idea, the belief that this nobody actually can come into existence.
And as long as we bind to the existence of this somebody, then it is bound to come with some expectations. How should this somebody's life be like? What should he or she have in their life? What should not come? What should come? The belief in my existence as a somebody is the root of all suffering. And we've checked so often now, we know that, and we are finding ourselves to be this nameless, formless one. So upon looking, we do not find this one which wants something or doesn't want something, and we find ourselves to be this nameless, formless one. This is what we find because we see that all appearances are appearing to that one which is nameless and formless—just the awareness itself.
This is the comedy of life. We never find the one that we always presume ourselves to be, and the one that we truly find every time we check, we are in constant denial of that. We never find the person. If I tell any of you, 'Let's find the person,' we start looking, looking, looking—it's so much hard work and you still don't find. And yet that gets our allegiance. And that which we do find—we look at all that is appearing, we find that 'I am' here is awareness itself which is untouched by any appearance—this we want to deny because there is so much belief in the identity. So satsang is where we come to break this belief in the false identity.
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And we have become so used to just mental confirmation that even after checking this and finding no person here, and finding only this awareness as what you truly are, you come and say, 'Oh, but I still don't know if this is true or not for me. I still don't know if I'm there yet. Am I really seeing this to be true?' Yes, this is your experience. Whether the mind confirms it or not, you are the primal witnessing of all appearances. There is nothing that anyone can do about this fact. It is the truth. It is reality.
Father, it was just when you said earlier about the two reasons for being here in satsang is usually the devotion or the wanting to know who I am, I felt like neither of these to be the reason. But I know that both of these are true for you, so don't buy this story. Then you say it feels more there is an underlying annoyance of a feeling of suffering which feels like the motivation.
Yes, yes, this is actually also valid. We can add to the valid reasons to be in satsang that we want to come to the end of suffering. And once you want to come to the end of suffering, then that activates the urge for self-discovery to be free from that. We are not buying some idea about ourselves here; we are already free from that. The end of suffering is always right now. As long as we are buying some idea about the future, it is not the end of suffering. The end of future suffering is not what we are talking about right now. It is impossible for you to suffer unless you believe a thought about yourself. We see this to be true or no? Right now, unless you pick up an idea, you cannot suffer. Even if the body is in pain, we cannot suffer. And nobody can force you to pick up an idea.
But there seems to be some sort of an addiction to ideas, and that's why we come to satsang: to withdraw away from these ideas. And this kind of withdrawal, you can have all kinds of symptoms initially. You say, 'I can't live without these ideas of myself. What will happen to me in the future? You are not telling me about how my life is going to be.' There's so much fear here. All of these are the words of addiction. Until you are free from this habit of consuming thoughts, then you find that there is nobody here that can be hurt by any appearance in this universe. Even by the end of the universe, you cannot be hurt. The end of suffering is not personal. It is the end of the person identity which is the end of suffering. Then the end of suffering is not a personal gift; it cannot be received personally, cannot be given personally. It can only be pointed to you.
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