Stay in This Beautiful Neutrality - Feb.13, 2015

Yes, so I feel it's a wonderful, wonderful question to ask. So what is this all about? What is this whole satsang thing? Why are we here? What do we do? Usually, you will see that beings are in satsang for one of two reasons. One is to see that whatever I have tried in my life, I have tried for happiness, for peace, but I've tried so many different things but I cannot seem to find that happiness. I cannot find that peace. I cannot find that joy which I've been looking for. And it's not like everything I've tried has failed. Some things have succeeded, some things have failed, but even in the seeming successes, I can't seem to find this everlasting happiness and peace which I have been looking for.

So the question then is, there must be something more to it. The question comes: there must be something more to this than just this next goal, next goal, next goal. And every time you get to something, the mind says, 'Not enough, still a little more to go. You'll get there, you'll get there.' And many have walked this journey. Most of humanity is walking on this journey of getting more and more to get that happiness which they've been searching for. But for a few, it comes this question that this is not worthy. This path, this seeming treadmill that I seem to be walking on, is not getting me anywhere. So what is really going on? What is the purpose of my life? What am I doing here? Is it just to be born like this and to go through all these various phases of our lives, various responsibilities of our life, and one day to just drop the body? Is that all there is, or is there something deeper? Is there a deeper understanding which is available?

So if this kind of feeling arises, then with it the question arises: so who am I really? Am I just this mortal body which will be born and will die, or is there something else which I am? And once I figure out who this 'I' is, who I am, then maybe I can decide what I want. So right now, all that we have wanted seems to be coming from this energy form of thoughts. But even when we get that, it doesn't seem like it gives us what it promised in terms of happiness, in terms of peace, in terms of joy. So that is what brings most of us to satsang. And what is the main catalyst to get here faster? The main catalyst is suffering.

So we were discussing that most who come to satsang have experienced some suffering in their life, and it sort of catalyzes this feeling that this normal way of just following the mind as I've been going is not working. There must be another way. There must be another way to lead my life. So that's how it started. So what do we see when we come here? What is said when we come here is that the cause of all suffering is just this misidentification with the person idea. We identify as a person. If you're here, suppose you're here for the first time, you would say, 'No, no, not person. I feel I'm the body.' Most people say like this, that 'I feel I'm the body.' But this one can very quickly be seen through because we don't really feel that we are the body. The body is not truly interested in the amount of money in the bank. It's not interested in relationships with co-workers, not relationships in family. So this body made up of flesh and blood is not concerned about any of this.

There's something else that seems to be here which is interested in these things, how things are looking in the appearance. Who is this one? And this one is the cause of all suffering. And it's a presumed belief. It's an imagined, just a concept. 'I want this, I want that.' All of that comes from this first presumption that I am a person. Very few of our wants and desires are truly related purely to the body. It's more related to what the person wants. So then I feel it's a very logical question to ask: so if you are a person, can you at least find where this person is? You feel so strongly that you are a person. 'Yes, yes, obviously I'm a person.' Can we at least find what this person is and where is it? And then with openness, we do this inquiry to find out where is this person. Then you will find that no such person ever existed.

And all our wanting, all our desires, all our aversions are then let go of because who do they belong to really? You cannot find an entity to whom they belong. And once this misidentification with the imagined entity of person is changed to the true identification with your own Self, then this gives you the sense of the peace and the happiness and the joy that we have been looking for. I've not seen anything else which comes to this sort of a resting. Everything is always chasing, chasing, chasing, chasing. The resting comes in the true discovery, the true simple seeing in the present moment of what I am. Let's also see if there's some feedback.

So everyone, lots of us want to speak today. We'll see, maybe we have a longer session. We're going to hop out of the hangout now, so I just wanted to say a very quick thank you so much and so much love to you.

Thank you. Love you so much. Thank you very much. Love you. See you soon. Yes, yes, bye, bye-bye. This is so festive also in some sense.

Father, may I ask? May I come? Good. Okay. I just wanted to—I don't even know really what I want to ask, and it doesn't even feel like I need to expose something, so I'm not quite sure what it is. But since the plans to come to Rishikesh started, I've had nightmares every night of children being abused. And the other day when you said that it was good seva for me that the mom role was being challenged, I just think it's all connected. And I can see that since Mooji came, so much suffering has left, and maybe there's been some very quiet avoidance. And the idea that there's maybe suffering that I'm not—maybe I've been just so happy to be happy.

How could you be so happy when you are avoiding all this suffering which is hiding? That's what the mind is saying. 'How would you, how dare you be happy when there is suffering which is hiding?'

Yeah, maybe it is saying that. Yeah, it's like—it's very clear to me that even when compassion is rising because I'm seeing something or hearing something or remembering something, that at the same time there's the seeing that is not—it's just seeing. It's just seeing, that's all. It's just seeing. And so it feels—just give us a minute. It's a day like this today. It's okay. I just wonder, and maybe this is just the mind just saying, have I just been—there's been some just wanting chocolate-covered moments? And then so in the sleep is coming now these nightmares and whatever it is. I don't even feel that I need to know. I just say that I choose truth as much as whatever it is that's been saying that. I don't even know. I just know that whatever I have to face, I'm willing to face it.

The mind sometimes behaves like this. It can't get you in the—did you hear one more? Okay. The mind comes and says, 'Oh, today is the last satsang before the break, so it should be very beautiful.' This doesn't seem to be happening. Later, 'Oh yes, yes, yes, so this might become nightmares.' Nothing. It doesn't mean anything. Don't give anything to the mind because it is only the mind which will come and say, 'Oh, you've just been avoiding, you've just been too happy.' You see? 'You've been unreal, unrealistically happy. Are you really happy or you just pretending?' All this is just from the mind. Happiness doesn't need work. It is to be miserable that needs work. So then it can't get you in the waking state, so it tries to get you in the sleep state, in the dreaming state. Okay? It cannot do anything to create. Happiness is your natural state. You can do something to bring on misery.

And anything you believe, even if it smells like, 'Oh, is there something in this?' Sometimes it's like this. It smells like, 'Oh, this could be true.' Yeah. And just before an important trip, before an important retreat, something like this always comes. Something like this always comes. So for you, it's happening in the nightmare. For some of us, it might be happening in this whatever you call it, dream state or waking state. See, all these kind of obstacles happen like this. I told you the story once, isn't it? That just before the retreat once, my son, he got a fracture on his wrist and it was quite serious. So then we were saying, 'Okay, we can't go now.' And then we called Mooji and he said, 'Just come. Whatever it is, you just come.' Okay? It's bound to happen that before these auspicious appearances are to arise, before that, these seeming obstacles in the appearance also seem to arise. Maybe just projection of our own deepest fears, you see? Yes, yes. Good. Just let them get released. Good opportunity for us to see that, 'Oh, this was still hiding somewhere.' It's coming up, it's going out, getting released. It will be over. Okay? I don't feel that anything will go wrong. I don't feel that anything will go—it's funny because...

It's bound to happen that before these auspicious appearances are to arise, before that, these seeming obstacles in the appearance also seem to arise. Maybe just projection of our own deepest fears, you see? Yes, yes, good. Just let them get released. Good opportunity for us to see that, oh, this was still hiding somewhere. It's coming up, it's going out, getting released. It will be over. Okay? Okay.

I don't feel that anything, anything will go wrong. I don't feel that anything will go... it's funny because some of the dreams have been about my own children, but then others of the dreams have been about just children. Just like, in the dream, all of a sudden I hear a child being harmed and I go and I somehow find them. And I think it's true, it's some deep-seated things. And I know it's Grace and very happy for it, even though it's, you know, painful to have these feelings. I know it's love. Thank you.

The children thing seems to be also a theme for the last week or so in the inner satsang. Then my son was not well, then we had to... I had to step out. Yesterday also my daughter was not feeling well, and many, some mothers also have written saying that children are not well. So it's like this. It's coming like this just to push whatever buttons are there. Just flow with it. Nothing is going to go wrong. Okay?

I just feel to say that even if things have to go wrong, I just... whatever needs to be. I trust whatever this is more than I trust my fears. And in any places I don't trust, then I'm willing to trust. I'm willing to see.

This is very good, very good. Then there is no wrong. If you trust everything, then there is nothing that is wrong.

Thank you so much.

Oh, thank you, my dear. I see you soon.

See you soon. I'll go out so someone else can come in. Okay. I love you. Thank you.

Okay. So we were saying that the cause of all this seeming suffering seems to be this person identity. This is okay so far? You have a poker face so I can't make out if you're agreeing, disagreeing. You challenge if you feel that there's something which is not resonating. You just say, 'Yes, but no, I still feel I'm the body' or something like that you can say. So far, is it so? Person... so this person identity, this person idea is there, and this seems to be the root of all this desire, of aversion, of planning, of strategizing, of wanting to get something, wanting to get somewhere. All this seems to be personal.

So then the question comes: okay, so it's a personal identity which seems to be the root of all suffering. What can I do about it? So without even Advaita-policing right now and saying 'Who is this I that wants to do something about it?', we can say simply: how does this... and what happens with the thought that perpetuates the person idea? It is only thought. It comes just like any other energy. And my... so this thought just is one another energetic appearance. And we look at it, we see that thought in itself can't do anything at all. Just something coming and going like a passing cloud in the sky. It can't do anything at all. But it is our attention and our belief which operates on this thought.

And our attention goes, and attention is difficult to manage. So if I say, 'Don't give your attention to the thoughts,' more and more attention will run towards it. So if I say, 'Don't give your attention,' again, attention... so don't try to manage at the level of attention. But also you need belief. Attention alone is not enough to derive misery or suffering from a thought. To derive the person idea from the thought, you need more than just attention. Attention is just a simple looking, just like you look at any object. You look at this, you look at the computer, see? Then just look at it. But immediately you'll find that the mind starts making judgments about it. It's... 'This is a cover, it's a little dirty,' you know, whatever. It starts. It's very rarely that we are able to look at even an object and not offer the interpretations about the object.

So we meet another person, then we are not actually meeting the person; we are meeting our interpretations of this person. We are not fresh like that. So we give belief to these interpretations, and these beliefs expand on or nurture this person idea. So in contemplating this, this became very clear: that if I say that withdraw your attention, that seems to require many, many years of yogic sadhana. There are so many practices all over the world which are meant to withdraw attention. I said that belief seems to be much, much simpler. Don't give your next thought the belief. That is the simplest thing that you can do about it, about the person idea, about the personal suffering. So I don't find any possibility of suffering without believing a thought or a concept.

So is the other external object or some other... the same? But the same thing for thought also? Just like a thought is coming and it's saying, 'Okay, this is making sense.' Is it allowed to just come and go? It's meaningless to be saying it's not making sense, it's making sense. Doesn't matter. Not making sense. The minute you get your belief, this seems to become your reality. 'It's not making sense to me.' Or if it said, 'It's making sense,' then it seems to become your reality. It's making sense to... the same way, what happens with these interpretations can be given belief about objects, and interpretations are these thoughts which you're saying. So it's saying that what you mean, external and internal?

Yes, I'm just thinking maybe I have... in filtering out, let's say, thoughts that are related to day-to-day work versus thoughts that are not. So it seems to me that some do require belief and attention.

Okay, this is good. This is already a good first step. This is already a good first step because you say, 'Okay, for practical things I might need thoughts, practical things. But I refuse to rely on them now for psychological support. I will not rely on them for my support in my relationships. This I will not hold grievances because of these thoughts.' All of this goes. So the minute you say day-to-day, it leaves only the practical things like that, isn't it? It does not... it takes away most of the reasons for suffering, which is interpersonal relationship, security, and any of these things cannot be relied on. So already if you see this, it's very good.

So you say, 'I will rely on my thoughts only for day-to-day practical things. I need to plan my calendar, I need to plan my appointments, so I will rely on thoughts for this.' This will not cause suffering mostly, mostly. But what this does perpetuate is this. So this much is very good. If most of humanity would just hear this much, it would be enough and more suffering would go away. But here we have this feeling that we can even look a little deeper than this. This would mean what you said would imply that for my day-to-day activities, there must be a 'me' which is the doer. There must be an entity called 'me' which needs to take charge of the day-to-day activities, and this entity needs to rely on thoughts for these day-to-day.

And then we can start looking at how does this fit in with this concept that God is everywhere, that God is omnipresent? Because if God is everywhere, then where is the question of 'me'? Okay, then the mind comes up with some excuses: 'Okay, there is a God, but you need to run your life.' All this kind of things will come. But if it is God which is everywhere, then who is this 'you' that needs to run your life? Even the day-to-day activities, you see? The practical things, cleaning the house, planning your meetings. Who is this one? We cannot find. I can pretty much guarantee to you that if you were to look, you will not find this separate entity with this sense that 'I am the doer.'

Although I cannot find the person, there still seems to be this sense that there's a doer or something. And for that also we have a simple experiment. On a Sunday or something where you don't have too much day-to-day activity, just say that 'I will just let everything flow on its own. I will not pick up a thought to do anything at all.' And those who have done this experiment have come back and said that it was so free-flowing on its own. But it's not like activities stop. So there is a deeper force that runs all the activities which seem to be happening in this life. The words were coming on their own, actions were moving on their own, emails were getting sent on their own. It was not like I became a vegetable sitting on the bed.

So then we see that, yes, this movement of action is very similar to the movement of thought. Thoughts coming and going, you see that they're just coming and going. Same way, you will find that action also is just coming and going. Part of the... it just takes this simple playing with this experiment. Play around with it and you will see the actions are moving. You see like your hand is like this right now, your eyes are blinking. No decision was taken to do like this, isn't it? It just happened. So also we know of the butterfly effect. It says the smallest action changes the entire complexion of the entire universe. It is also said that no two atoms are at the same level of energy. So you make one movement, then you're changing the entire universe because everything adjusts to that one move.

So if all of this is happening on its own—your heart is beating, blood is pumping, so many processes happening inside the body—then all of those are changing the complexion of the entire universe. So then when you start contemplating these things, you will realize that this idea that there is a separate one that is controlling the actions of this body was also just mythical. And then you'll see that, okay, if this one is also mythical, then who are the thoughts advising? Does it really mean... and many times we also see that thoughts are there, we believe that 'This is my decision, I want to do like this,' and then we show up for that meeting and completely something else we are talking, and you're wondering, 'How did that happen?'

Maybe next time I meet my boss, I'm going to tell him, 'Back off, dude, this is too much.' And you go to him and he says... and you say, 'Better get this done, yes, yes.' So what is the value of those decisions? It's just this: we gave some thoughts our belief, but what had to flow, flows. It still flows. So just play with this and you see that even day-to-day activities, God has no trouble in doing, you know? Because what is the belief there? Very subtly, this very arrogant belief is there which says, 'God is going to make a mess of my work and a mess of my life if I just leave it to him. I need to take charge of this at least.'

And for this aspect, I always say: don't take my word for it. You try it out. Play with it. See on a Sunday, this coming Sunday, you can say, 'Okay, today just let it flow on its own. No picking up any thought. If something has to happen, it'll happen. If it doesn't happen, it doesn't.' And we'll tell others also not to force you to do any chores or any household... and then you find like this. Then automatically you might find then in this, then even the thoughts which you feel, 'Okay, this at least was relevant, this at least was relevant for my day-to-day activity, this is relevant.' And even... I know there are a lot of people waiting to speak, but this is also important to see.

Contemplate: what is the decision actually? So these thoughts are coming and I decide to do this. What is that process? Who is the decision-maker? How does the decision actually happen? You don't look at these things, just say, 'Yes, I decided.' Just see: how did it happen? A thought came, then what was decided? How do the... what happened after the thought came that we called it my decision? Even very simply standing at a crossroads, decision whether to go left or right. See the mechanics of how this decision got taken. And if you observe these mechanics, you will find that this concept of personal doership will completely dissolve. You'll see that this decision-making is purely mythical. You can't feel... everyone has some seeming decisions to make. So see: how did it happen that I made a particular decision? And then if it seems to you that, 'Yes, yes, there was this me who then did like this and then that's how the decision came,' then you come and share.

Go left or right. See the mechanics of how this decision got taken. And if you observe these mechanics, you will find that this concept of personal doership will completely dissolve. You'll see that this decision-making is purely mythical. You can't feel... everyone has some seeming decisions to make, so see: how did it happen that I made a particular decision? And then if it seems to you that 'Yes, yes, there was this me who then did like this and then that's how the decision came,' then you come and share that. But mostly what you will find is you will see that it just happens, and then the mind comes later and takes credit. 'Oh, you did this. You should not have done this. How great that you did this.' This mind which comes post factum, and you get convinced that 'I am the doer of this decision' or the decision-maker. In this way, you can contemplate this.

And then when the reliance on any type of thoughts—good, bad, useful, ugly—all this, no reliance on any of this, then you will find that life just moves on its own, very natural. It's already moving like that, but the seeming suffering which is coming along with that seems to reduce because there is no resistance. So this simple contemplation, then you will find that you will lose the ability to suffer. You actually lose the ability to suffer because the suffering has taken a lot of practice and you built up this ability. I know we had this conversation where you said that there is no suffering, which is good. Remember you said there is no suffering when you are being asked to wash the dishes? I'm just... this ability to suffer through any of this will then just vanish.

So this is the most of what we speak about. So the same thing over and over in different sorts of ways we talk about. There are two other things that we speak about, which is then you say, 'Yes, this is fine. I'm losing the ability to suffer. This is fine. But what about this God? We hear that spirituality is all about God. So can you show me this God?' And then say, 'Yes, God. God is real.' Then it must be here now. I'm not interested in something which is just coming and going. I'm not interested in something which is only available in particular places. God, if it is real, the God that I am interested in must be ever-present, must be everywhere. And this is what we heard about God, isn't it? So God needs to live up to that, otherwise I'm not interested.

So what is it that we can find in this present moment that is here? We already said if God is real, it must be here. So what is here? There is the appearance of this world. There's an appearance of the world and then there's a presence. There's a sense that 'I am.' The world is appearing to me, so there is a sense that 'I am.' And if I say, 'Can you stop being now?' you say, 'No, being is here. I am being. Being is here.' So this being itself is God. This being itself is Consciousness. In the light of this, when this being is present, then the world of Maya exists. If this being is not present, then no phenomena exists. It's in the light of this being that the world comes into. So this experiencing of God is available. This instant, your own sense of being is that.

And then you might say—some rare one will say—'But I am aware even of this being. Who is that which is aware even of this? I am watching the being; being is not watching me. I am aware of this presence.' See? So who is this? Then we can say that that is the absolute truth of what you are. This pure awareness itself. If I say, 'Are you aware now?' you say, 'Yes, there is awareness.' But I don't need an experience to prove to me that I am aware. Even the experience of being is an experience, but to be aware means no experience to confirm I am aware now. We didn't see any phenomena, we didn't experience a presence to even say that I am aware. This awareness must be prior even to being. It is a witness even of God. This is the absolute Self that we speak of.

So all of satsang is actually just these three things. One is this freedom from the person idea. Second is the tasting of the presence of God in this very moment. And then to see that I am the awareness which is even aware of the presence of God. Within this, all that we speak, all as signs, all that is encapsulated in this. Okay. Okay, there's just too much chat for me to process. So if you're in the hangout, you can see something. Okay, one thing catches my attention, something that Shani posted just now. She says, 'This whole limited hangout is such a good satsang. It's either the not able to get in story, usually full of frustration, judgment, and anger, or the I should go out story.' This is very beautiful. I like this. When you're out, you feel, 'Oh, I can't get in, I can't get in.' You're inside, 'Oh, maybe I should make space for someone.'

Hello, Father. Yes, can you hear me? Yes, great. Um, I just wanted to say, um, because I'll have to go to work soon anyway, um, so I thought I'll quickly step in and let somebody else come in after me. But, um, I just wanted to say thank you. Um, I've only been part of this satsang for just over a month, I think, and, um, it's been beautiful. And, um, I wanted to thank you for allowing me to do seva and, um, read on the advisor channel. There's been some, um, members of the satsang that have been extremely helpful. Somebody the other evening was taking me through very patiently, and, um, and various others as well that have been very encouraging. And, um, so I wanted to ask you just if there's any... I'm just open to what might happen, but if there's any specific guidance you have, or if you could just clarify what seva is, um, that that would be lovely. Um, before I... you know, I feel very grateful to be part of this flow, and, um, I'm just open to whatever guidance you might have. And, um, thank you.

This is very... so seva, what is seva? Very good question. So what is this seva? It feels like in the presence of satsang there is so much gratitude that appears. So much gratitude for the peace, the joy, the realization of the Self. It seems like so many lifetimes I have been looking, looking, looking, and in the presence of the teacher, the presence of satsang, there is some sense of resting, some sense of peace. And then there's so much relief, and there's usually accompanied with a lot of gratitude. And how does this gratitude express itself? Many times it expresses itself to say, 'How can I be in service to this satsang? It brought me so much peace, so much joy. How can I be of service?' with no sense of arrogance, just as an expression of this gratitude itself. That how can I be in service to this truth in the complete realization that even whatever seva is going to happen, whatever actions are going to happen, are just the flowing of this Consciousness itself.

There's this urge to say, 'Yes, I offer myself at the feet of the satsang to be able to spread whatever little light I can.' There are so many beautiful volunteers, so many who do seva in the Mooji sangha, and there's so many here also on hangout, in person, all of you. So much. So everything which is devoted to the spreading of satsang, everything which is devoted as a gift at the feet of the Master is seva. It's coming from this place of gratitude when this spreading of the light can happen very organically. And so much beautiful seva has been happening. This... Amaya and the transcripts team, so much beautiful seva they've done. The broadcasters, so much beautiful seva. The satsang moderators, Lizel, Bhakti Ji, all of you, such beautiful... so much. The creation of the songs, the videos, so much. It just happened organically. Aruna was saying the other day very beautifully, like it's a set of bees, just organically everything gets designated. Not too much... I don't feel too much is there which is being controlled. I let everything just flow on its own and automatically all of this seems to be happening on its own.

And this can happen organically like this only because it is coming from your place of gratitude. If it is coming from some sense of 'I'm doing something special' or something, then it would not flow so seamlessly. But I also must tell you that seva is the most ego-crunching thing that I have ever seen in this realm, because nothing is defined. There's no hierarchy, especially in our... we don't believe too much in hierarchy anyways. So the mind clamors for hierarchy, for some setting like that so that things could get clear for the mind. But then when you're put into a seva environment, then you find that it's just floating on its own and everybody is free to share their opinions. Everybody likes to communicate. Sometimes our deepest buttons get pressed. Whatever buttons still remain, they get pressed. And most of you who have been in seva have experienced this, isn't it? That it's great, great burning. Sometimes great burning of whatever remnants of ego still remain.

So the mind comes in expecting that it's going to be so beautiful, blissful, and just doing it from gratitude. But the minute you start some seva, then everybody has opinions about it and everybody seems to be judging what you're doing and all of that. And that is great satsang. It's great satsang. So then if this sort of heat is coming up, then you stay in the kitchen. The usual phrase is that if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. But in seva, if you can't stand the heat, you must stay in the kitchen, at least for some time, and then you bring it up in satsang. This is what's coming up about seva at the moment. I'm very happy and thank you so much. Thank you so much for volunteering to broadcast as well.

I just wanted to say thank you and enjoy your break. I know you have a family of your own, as I do, and um, just rest and I'm sure you will just enjoy the beauty of it all. Thank you very much.

Thank you so much, my dear.

Father, can I speak? Yes, yes. I just want to say that I love you so much.

I love you too.

And um, I want you to have a beautiful time in Rishikesh, Mooji. I know that you will. Um, I'm going to miss you terribly, but I know you're always here with me. Um, I just... these past few weeks there's been so much burning, so much burning. So beautiful. Um, just this morning I was cutting a peach for breakfast and suddenly tears just started to flow and I'm eating this peach, enjoying the flavors and the goodness and the nutrients, and I realized it was all me. Everything's me, everything. And there was just such joy in this recognition. It only lasted maybe, I don't know, maybe a minute, but in that minute, um, it felt like an eternity. And um, it was just so beautiful. And it's just little things like this have been happening, and little, little nuggets of this being revealing itself to me. And being in your presence, even now I'm shaking. You've done so much for me, so much. From... so much has happened, and I didn't even realize this. It's after the fact that I see the changes in me. Things that have surfaced that I had forgotten were there, they've just been clearing out beautifully. And it's like I've just been held by Grace throughout this whole time. And I know, I know that it's been you that has helped me. I don't want to take up too much of the time here because I know everybody wants to give their love, but I just want you to know that I love you so much.

Thank you. So beautifully this year, so much... these quotes for some time and now she's... the quotes are so beautiful. Very... just the tune comes and the music just comes and she just seems like it's an instrument. This is you see that, just an instrument which is just a vehicle for this. It's just happening.

I just wanted to say that your thoughts brought me to Father. I just heard about him in your beautiful... a lot of love for Father and Advaita. Thank you so much. Thank you. I can leave now and make room for others. Thank you so much. Please give Mooji a big, big hug from me. I love you both so much.

I love you back so much. Thank you.

Can you say something about compassion? Why is this a topic for you right now? I've been having conflicts with my... she, she, she's like one woman who I know she just pushes my buttons like every time I see her. She's like one woman I absolutely don't like and she wants me to, you know, I don't know... she doesn't like Mooji.

Thank you. I can leave now and make room for others. Thank you so much. Please give Mooji a big, big hug from me. I love you both so much.

I love you back so much. Thank you.

Can you say something about compassion? Why is this a topic for you right now? I've been having conflict with my... she's like one woman who I know, she just pushes my buttons like every time I see her. She's like one woman I absolutely don't like and she wants me to... I don't know. She doesn't like me, I think, and even I don't like her, but it's just somehow, you know, we are put together. Every time I see her face, I feel very irritated. And also at the same time, I'm bogged down by the constant seeking approval also. So I can't do it. It's so fake. Why would I want to seek someone's approval and I want to become something just to please someone?

So, compassion. Well, you want to be compassionate towards her?

I want to be compassionate towards myself first because it seems like you're being attacked from the outside. I don't know. She says a lot of things which don't make sense. And everyone goes to seek everyone's approval and like, 'Am I doing it right? Should I do it? I shouldn't do it.' Maybe I will not get my recommendation, you know, to go study further. And she says it also, that 'You are not keeping up to the mark.' Although the work flows, she says, 'Aren't you obsessed with what you're doing? You don't have an identity for yourself. You have to, you know, when you go outside in the real world, you have to do it.' I get these lectures every day, like day in and day out I get this. And at some point, maybe it pushes my button because I'm holding on to something, or maybe what she's saying makes sense. 'What is the highest goal you can have? You are without a passion for something. You need to have some passion to get somewhere.' They're saying like this, isn't it?

So if you were to ask them, 'What is the highest a human being can achieve? What is that?' Okay, so let's make it even simpler. Say, why do we want to achieve something? For happiness, to get somewhere. You want to get somewhere because it will give you happiness. Now, we've experienced so many people. There's so much media about everything, so we know the lives of everyone: the rich and the famous, the poor and the downtrodden. We've seen glimpses of everyone's life. Who is the happy one? Where have you found someone who is truly happy? Anything like this in the world, no matter where they are in their social standing, what they've achieved, what they've been able to accomplish—has it led to everlasting happiness or peace to any of them? So if that is a 'no,' then what is the point of that achievement? Because we were trying to achieve so that we would get happiness.

So then, there must be something which you can achieve—although we don't call it achievement usually—but there must be something that you can find which will give you this peace and happiness. I would say that that is the highest that you can get to. What is that? To discover what you truly are, which is beyond all this play of appearances and striving and getting somewhere. Beyond the temporariness of birth and death, what can you achieve which will be beyond death? That is what is real. So then, if someone is saying, 'What do you want to achieve? Where do you want to go?' it is based on their template for their life, their belief system.

And if you find that your feeling is that you have seen many achievers, many non-achievers, and they all seem to be in this place of striving, struggling, trying to get something, and you see that in the realization of myself there is none of this—there is just the simple witnessing of all of this—then would that not be far beyond what can be achieved in this world of Maya? The minute you pick up this thing that 'I must do this, this is what I should do,' then you're picking up all of this. Although it might seem like the right thing to do, then you're picking up the concepts of doership, separation, identity, desire, and aversion.

So let them speak. Let everyone speak whatever they want to speak. You find what is true for you. It doesn't mean you have to then convince them of something. If some words come from your intuition which are to be spoken like this, then they can come. Just stay in your silence. Because people will not speak to you unless they find that there is something which is being pressed. They find either you're getting affected or you're getting motivated or something. Then why would they keep speaking? If I would not find openness here, then I would not speak these words. As simple as that. So then, if they find that you are already content, you're happy, peaceful, then why would they keep saying it?

And it irritates. What can happen is that when they find in the world... if someone finds somebody who's peaceful, then the world gets very irritated. They do something. 'What are you sitting here just smiling? Get up, you know, do something!' It's like that old Zen story, isn't it? They made an ad for Sprite about it. Did you see that? 'Why are you just sitting here chilling? Why don't you get up and do something?' 'Then what will happen?' 'Then what will happen?' Then after you've earned all that money and everything, your whole life is gone in that, then you can sit peacefully. And then the farmer says, 'But that's already what I'm doing right now.'

So what happens usually in the world is that we get into the striving, striving, striving, striving till the very end. There are many old people who on their deathbeds still feel, 'Oh, I left something unfinished. I want to leave more money for this thing. I wanted to do this.' Still on the deathbed also striving. Where is the contentment? Where is the peace? So then you find the contentment of your being in your heart, then the world will stop bothering you in both ways. And even if it doesn't stop, the bothering doesn't bother you. You see, you said like there must be something here which is getting pushed or some belief, because some identity might still be here. This is good, Satsang. This is good Grace to expose this, to see that this also must be now let go. Who must achieve? Now you've been here for more than a year. Say, 'No person.' That is clear. No person. Who must achieve? Then that button cannot be pressed.

Then you can, instead of asking for compassion for yourself, you ask for compassion for her because she's in this delusion of personal doership. So who needs compassion in this situation? No, it's just like when I speak with others, it's compassion with her. You know, do you hear yourself? What are you talking? You don't make sense. Yes, but these thoughts... thoughts, especially the strong egoic thoughts, are like a magnet to pull out the same egoic here. This is what basically happens. You're saying to the others it's fine, but for this one, 'Ego, please, this is not believed.' And even if this one is there, do not judge. Even if you get angry, please be neutral, fresh.

It's just I have seen that when I'm put in a situation with her, there's a little bit of defense also. And she tends to go on and on and on and, like, I don't know, I sort of like bark at her and say what you're saying sometimes. And then after that, it hits me that, 'God, you were just...'

It's very good. Very good. Not that you've been rude is very good, I'm just saying that this happening is very good. Then you can really... because if none of this was happening, then all of us become complacent. 'Oh, I've got it. Everybody else is still floating somewhere else.' And when this happens, then we feel, 'Then what is it saying? Something is still here.' And then it's beautiful because it keeps us grounded. It keeps us just with our head bowed down. Life knows these situations, what to give to you, what is needed at what time. Giving you this just so that you're grounded, you're not getting complacent or arrogant. And then you cannot even... you will not judge others who get rude because if you remember, then some rudeness came from here also. So when it comes in my direction also, the same thing. You will not say, 'Oh, I am in Satsang, so my rudeness is not rudeness. They are not in Satsang, so they are really being rude.' The same energy is flowing. You cannot judge. That's why I want to... I know even in chat you said, 'Yeah, stay with what you are.' What is clear to you right now about what you are? And this here, this 'what you are,' does it matter what she says or she doesn't say? Then there must be some picking up of some other identity which makes it possible to be concerned. So you are this ever-present witnessing, whether you are here, you're in college, whether she's there or not. You are just this. Your appearance can keep changing. Okay, let's see what I missed.

Father, can I say something? Yes, my dear, of course. Namaste, Father. I can't... I'm holding with my hand so I have to do the one-handed Pranam. Just bringing again this what's coming up so strongly here with my child being sick. And what I've really listened to, allowing just the mother identity to be there. And this has been such great... and such fear and anxiety has been arising. And I know it's arising, but it seems to take root and identity forms around this. And it's my greatest fear, something happening to my children, because there's such intensity in that. And I would just like to look into it with you, please, Father, to actually sit with this fear because it comes so strongly even in the body that it seems so real. And if I could just look at it with you to see... although even when I'm speaking to you, I know it's not real, but it seems so real. The idea of... no, I just moved the table a little bit. Oh, sorry. It's the one area where there's such stickiness around identity and where thoughts are believed and doership arises around making the right decision. And what doesn't appear here is 'Thy will be done.' It's like, 'No, no, no, no, no, no, they must be okay. They must get better.' It's the one area where I don't have that sureness. There isn't that surrender. It's like, 'I don't want anything bad to happen to them.' So I don't have that... it's not here where it's like, 'Okay, God, if it's Your will that things go to the...' I don't have that. That's not what arises here.

We can look at this. I feel we can look at this together. One thing is for certain, that in another 40, 50, 60, 70 years, this body is going to go. This much is clear here. Yes, this body is not going to have the usefulness and it is going to be dropped. Yes. So this is clear. Then where will you be in relation to your children?

They're just part of... like the body is this collection of sensations and the perceptions. And if the body drops, then I... it's just this. And is it that they just fall with that? Are they... and I've contemplated this a lot, is that are they even there once my body drops?

So we can look at this even deeper. So actually, fundamentally at the root, there is just pure awareness. There is pure awareness and the presence of being. If you were to really make it very simple and look at the states which are there, so if you were to break up all the states, it's either just pure awareness or pure awareness in the presence of being, which means dream state, waking state, all the other meditative states are included in that. So then in sleep state, there is no concern even for children, is it? No concern even for the most beloved. So in sleep state, there is nothing. There is no such phenomena at all. Then in the presence of being, we see that it is the light of being itself which is everything. Everything is just projected on this cinema screen, but it is this light of being itself which is the root phenomena. So if being is present, then all is in this being. All is this being itself. So the concept of you, your children, others, everyone is this.

In the sleep state, there is no concern even for children, is it? No, no concern even for the most beloved, most beloved. So in the sleep state, there is nothing; there is no such phenomena at all. Then the presence of being—we see that it is the light of being itself which is everything. Everything is just projected on this cinema screen, but it is this light of being itself which is the root phenomena. So if being is present, then all is in this being; all is this being itself. So the consciousness of you, your children, others, everyone, is this being itself. Then this presence cannot be taken away, no? The presence is there. And where does it go? Even this presence dissolves back into awareness itself. So it must be coming from this pure seeing. This being also arises from the pure seeing itself, and your children, your loved ones, are just the same being itself. So whether this body is there or this body is not there, this being cannot go. And if it is dissolved into awareness itself, then there is nobody to be concerned about it also, no? There's a sense that I am, and this I am is all-encompassing of all there is, isn't it? So where can someone go?

See, where are your children now? They're downstairs watching TV. Yes, their bodies are there, but you feel their presence in your heart, isn't it? Yes, yes, yes. You are upstairs here and they are downstairs. And if your body was to pass away right now—sorry if I'm sounding a little morbid today, but no, it's great—if this body was to pass away right now, they would feel that you're still there because they don't know that you're not. I mean, this body is not moving with vital force anymore, you see, because you are also in their heart. They're feeling the presence of beingness itself as you, just like you feel their presence in your heart. So it is not dependent on the state of the body, because the body has changed already. They came out so tiny; every cell is now different, isn't it? In another ten or fifteen years, they will look completely different. So is it this body that you're attached to? What is it that you're attached to? This body will constantly change, constantly be different. It's not... I don't think... yeah, you look at my son, he's taller than my wife by almost a foot. See, where is that tiny child who came out?

I think there is attachment to that identity, and it's an old habit that just comes back. Because nothing can be lost, nothing can be gained. And how could it be that they're outside of what I am? What is, you know, absolutely... it just somehow takes root. The thoughts are believed and take root, and I just leave this all here. But even yeah, I don't know, even that seems... I can't even say it's good. It's good. Thank you, Father. It's funny, my daughter said to me the other day—a little boy at school said to her, 'When you die, you become a ghost.' And she said to him, 'That's complete nonsense. You are spirit and you are always spirit, and you can only ever be spirit. Only your body drops.' And I thought, yeah, you see, they know. So thank you, thank you so much, Father. Thank you for everything. Please give Mooji a big hug for me as well. I wish with all my heart I could be there.

Yes, yes, I will. I will. Thank you, Father. Thank you. R says thanks to you for the question because it hit home with her as well. Something... can I say something please? Just one sec, R is saying something, then you. Sorry. Yes, she's done now. You can come. Sorry, is it okay?

Yes. I just wanted to say that today, this feeling of anxiety... I think just from feeling this is finishing for now. Just, I think, just concern that in that time, the mind's going to come back and... yeah, I don't know, but just a sense of anxiety. Where am I right now?

These words come from that which is your own heart. It's your own presence, and that cannot leave you. It would be very good to see where I truly am, where this voice truly is. Is the Satguru not there already with you in your own heart? It is not the outward manifestation, this body, this Ananta, which is important, you see. Not this. It is not Ananta which is important. Go into the presence of your own being, and nobody can tell me that it is not there. That's the best part about it; it cannot go anywhere. That is the presence which you experience when you are in Satsang. That is why you enjoy Satsang. That is the bliss of Satsang. You cannot be in Satsang for the world; you must be here because you can sense your own presence, your own presence.

So these words have just been pointings which have been able to remove some distraction, some delusion of the mind, and just to see what is present here already as your own sense 'I am,' 'I exist.' Stay in this beautiful neutrality, beautiful neutrality of just marinating in this knowing nothing, no specialness, just to see what is. And if all of you are truly grateful for Satsang, then just be even more vigilant than usual to any stories of the mind. I don't want to come back in five weeks and have additional stories to deal with. You come back in five weeks and you see—or five weeks gone already, you're already back—nothing, nothing, nothing. All that the mind is saying is just to release. Thank you.

You're very welcome. Thank you. Hi, Father. May I talk to you?

Hello, my dear. I'm just trying to increase the volume a little bit. I know my volume... can you hear me okay? It's okay now. Yes, yes, yes.

Hi. So, it's been a couple of weeks now where I feel that I need to talk with you, and yet a question doesn't come. And so I wait to see. And I recognized tonight it was urgent all day to come talk to you again, even though it feels like there's a question forming, but it just doesn't form. But in the last fifteen minutes or so, there's just a lot of something happening in the body, which is fine, but just a lot of shaking, which is fine. And it just felt that I needed to come. It feels like I'm supposed to come with a question, and so I've been avoiding or hesitating, I'm not sure. I don't even know, but it just felt I needed to come.

Very good, very good. You can.

Yeah, and it feels like such a long time since I've talked with you. I don't know why that matters, but there's feelings of missing you.

I love you so much, my dear. I love you so much.

I can't talk to you without crying, apparently. And I thought I was coming to Rishikesh, and it's really fine—until I pick something up, it's totally fine that I'm not. It's only when I pick something up; otherwise, it's fine. But there's something very sad about it still. I very much want to see you. I know I'm coming, I just don't know when. I can feel that, and I'm just so grateful. I'm so grateful. I thought tonight I wouldn't cry, but I guess that's impossible. I love you so much. And I guess if there is a question, is there anything here that's not... if there's anything here, you see, that's avoiding or hiding or anything, to just expose that.

No, it's good. It's all good. Very good. You don't have to do the 'nice' treatment.

Yes, yes. I know I'm crying, but I don't feel upset. I don't feel upset.

Very good. I feel I'm right there with you in your heart. I don't feel any separation, no. I love you so much.

Oh, I love you too. Thank you so much. Thank you.

I feel to tell all of you this: thank you so much. Thank you for being with me through the whole of more than a year now, having Satsang since last year. Online Satsang then, and then we had in-person Satsang before every fortnight. So many of you have been in this Satsang for so long, so consistently, so beautifully. I'm so, so grateful, although I feel I don't say it often.

Thank you, Father. Thank you, my dear. Thank you so much. I love you. Love you too, Father.

Yes, my Father. I want to expose something because it is the last Satsang. This has been for several years. I have something... it is always willing to compel me to do something or to say something. I feel this thing I don't want to say, I don't want to do, so I feel fearful about this. When I imagine something, I feel I should not do this, then the mind will be active. It will say, 'You do this, you do this.' Like when I go on the street, suddenly there is a thought that will say, 'You hate that person.' Then I feel very, very panic. A lot of emotion coming in the body.

Have you actually hit the person, or what? Have you actually hit the person when it says like that?

No, it's just imagined. It runs automatically, but I feel very bad. The mind will play like this.

Don't worry about what the mind is. Even now, the mind can come and say, 'Oh, you must hit Ananta' or something. It doesn't matter what the mind says. It's okay. Yeah, I'm not concerned about the mind. Many times I get these feelings when the minds are attacking me like that, but it doesn't matter. It's just the mind. It is the nature of the mind to attack.

Suddenly it says this again and again. I don't know whether to do or not. I don't know if doing it is right or not right. It always says, 'You need to do, you need to do, because if you do not do this, you will suppress yourself' or something.

I want to tell you something. Everything that the mind speaks is rubbish. Everything. You don't have to cling on to any thought. No thought is true. Not just the negative, not just the positive—any variety, any type of thought. You do not need to rely on any. That's why we have given you the most simple pointing: don't believe your next thought. It's the simplest. It takes away all concepts of what to do, what not to do. There is a sense 'I must do something.' Okay, don't believe your next thought. That's all you must do. Anytime. 'What must I do?' Just don't believe your next thought. 'What's happening to my life?' Don't believe your next thought. 'What's going to happen?' Don't believe it. 'What about money?' Don't believe it. 'What happens to my girlfriend, boyfriend?' Don't believe your next one.

See, there's a form of medicine called Homeopathy here. They give you these small pills. So I have just one small pill to give you. Only one medicine that cures all. You've seen this advertising in India? You see, there will be something, one syrup will sort you out for everything. One Panchakarma will be enough for all, no matter what you have. So this 'don't believe your next thought' is enough. 'You are missing Satsang'—don't believe your next thought. 'I must now become something'—don't believe it. Everything that the mind is saying is taking you on a merry-go-round which will only go round and round. You are already that. You are that which is complete, full. Don't buy anything from this salesman of the mind. And you must not also say that 'I will do the opposite of what the mind is saying.' Just be neutral. Neutral. Let all actions flow on their own. Surrender is seeing that all actions are happening on their own anyway. So I'm just going to drop the belief that I am doing something. It's very simple, very simple. Yeah, I don't have different medicine. 'Oh, I have an anger problem, what do I take?' Don't believe your next thought. 'I have lust, what do I do?' Just don't believe your next thought. 'I have greed, what do I do?' Don't believe your next thought. Simplicity is very nice. Is there anyone here who says, like J said the other day, that 'I don't understand this don't believe your next thought' or 'it doesn't work for me'? Does anyone feel like that? You better come up now if you're still feeling like that. You see, again, Padma wants to speak.

Yes, my dear, of course. Can you hear me? Just a little closer to your mouth, a little closer. Can you hear me? Yes, but just if you could move the mic a little closer to your mouth. Ah, okay. Here, is it okay now? Can you hear me?

Yes.

Yeah, okay. So, I just wanted to say hello and thank you, and I love you.

Thank you so much, and I love you too, my dear. About a year since we met, isn't it?

Yeah, it was the 12th of March when I saw you on the video, on the live broadcast. I don't really have anything...

Speak, yes, my dear. Of course. Can you hear me? Just a little closer to your mouth, a little closer. Um, can you hear me? Yes, but just if you could move the mic a little closer to your mouth. Ah, okay. Is it okay now? Can you hear me?

Yes, yeah. Okay. So, um, I just wanted to say hello and thank you. And, um, I love you. Thank you so much.

And I love you too, my dear. About a year since we met, isn't it?

Yeah, it was the 12th of March when I saw you on the video, on the live broadcast. Um, I don't really have anything to say. This is very good. I'm very happy I get to see you today. It's been a while since I saw you.

Yeah, what, you've been avoiding the Hangout or what?

I don't, I don't know. I just didn't feel to come in, you know? I just feel you so strong in my heart. Um, your presence is just so, it's just there all the time, so I don't know. Yeah, but of course, one day I'd like to see you physically.

Yeah, it will happen like this. It will happen. Thank you so much, my dear. You know, when I think of just Prema, I just think of Prema and my heart just melts.

Thank you so much, Father. Oh, thank you. Can you say hello to Mooji for me?

Of course, my dear. Of course. Thank you. Thank you so much. Bye. A question: So, you said I have energy running in my body. It's like I have this cyclic energy running in my body. It's a physical sensation that moves from my head, moves from my head, ears, and back alongside this deep breath, deep cycling. I have been in the cycle for a long time and it leaves me congested. Please help me, dear beloved. I also really want to come to India, but I can't find the clarity of coming from within. All my love to you. Cyclic energy running in my body, physical sensation moves from head, ears, and back alongside this deep grief which keeps cycling. And if you can tell me how this started or what was the trigger? Did something happen? Or that will be helpful.

Father, uh, can I ask a question for my sister? Yes. I do not have too much time to translate today. Uh, no, uh, I can translate for her later. This is okay. The first question is, uh, she feels that the separation between her and others is strong.

This separation cannot exist without the belief in the mind. That's why when I say don't believe your next thought, it is enough. If she's not believing a thought, then can she show me separation? It is not possible.

Uh, the second question is, uh, when others say something about her, she cares about it very, very strongly.

And because she is new to Satsang and we have very little time today, the fact is that I find that in this simple thing, that she must not believe any thought. This thought, it could be anything about others, about herself. Then in this, she will find a lot of space. A lot of clarity will come. Okay? Okay. The simplest pointing, simplest pointing what you can do is, if she's unable to withdraw her belief from some thoughts, she can make a list of four or five of the main thoughts which she believes in, okay? And you send me that on Facebook and we'll have a look at it. Yes, yes. Okay, very good. Anyone, whoever comes first. Okay, okay, okay. Go. You can hear me? Okay, yes, yes.

Hello, my dear. Um, I can hear you're in the Hangout. You want to stay in the Hangout or go out of the Hangout? Uh, I can hear myself talking. Do you have an echo? Oh, oh, no, no, no. That's okay, that's okay. I just wanted to say thank you as well. Just, yeah, I just wanted to say thank you, Father. Um, yeah, just thank you. I don't know, I don't know what else. I don't even know how to say it properly, like it doesn't feel like I can say, um, you know, enough. But yeah, same as everyone, I'm going to start blubbering as well. But yeah, just thank you. And earlier when you said, um, sorry, when you said that it's our own heart, you know, that we feel in that thing, it's funny because you say don't believe your next thought and it just made me realize how much that I come here believing thought. Because when you said that, it was like, that's true. That's what, you know, that's more true than the thoughts that I'm believing that say I need to find out something, I need to figure this out, or I need to do something. It's that is more true, that I feel my heart here. And I didn't really see that until you said that. It was more coming from trying to be free, you know? So thank you. Sometimes I find the littlest things for me make the most sense anyway. So thanks. I won't cry too much for you because you've had enough of that today, everyone crying on you.

Thank you for, thank you so much for the time we spent together in the last year. And that Shivani is another one who wrote to me, among many of you. She said in a private chat, she said, 'Is it okay if I don't do this Father thing? It doesn't go well with me. And who are all these mushy people that you have all around you talking about love and all? I don't feel any of that. Is that okay with you?' And now just look at her.

Yeah, I don't know what's happened to me. It's good, it's good.

I love you so much, my dear.

Love you. I feel the two of us are twins, actually. We listen to the same music, different continents. We had the same likes and dislikes and same taste in music, so many things.

I feel that too, actually. Yeah, I don't know. Love you the whole galaxy. Penguins love you the whole world. Okay, that's a new one. That's R. I'll let someone else come up now. Thank you.

Can you hear me? Wanted to say something. Hi, Father.

Yes, my dear. Very good.

I just also, like everyone else, just want to say thank you. Love you so much. Really appreciate all the time and love that you give to us. Thank you so much. Please enjoy your time with Mooji. It's amazing. And, uh, always I feel there's something here that's going to be really missing Satsang every week, but I totally, um, very happy that you're spending time with Mooji. I'll be listening to you anyway, all of the old Satsangs. And you're with me when I go to Shirdi, you're with me, right? Thank you. Thank you so much. Love you.

Love you too. Okay, I'll let someone else come. No idea how any of this happened. Those videos, Satsangs, and we would put on a DVD of Mooji and we'd watch these beautiful... started coming, all these kids, they started coming so, and so, so nicely. I've seen all of you so effortlessly just giving up your minds, surrendering your mind to the feet of Truth. So much love you've given me, and forever grateful and forever at the feet of this beautiful Sangha. So blessed to have all your presence. You see, because I have not seen a Sangha this beautiful. It might sound like this is pride or something, but I haven't seen something this beautiful.

Ananta, hello. I just had to butt in, just enter my space for someone else. Um, I just want to leave a testimony of just how much has fallen away.

Just one sec. And sorry, just one minute. Ask to give charger, we'll run out of battery any second. I just noticed here. You can go from inside. Yes, sorry, my dear.

No, no, no, no. And, um, with this whole problem I had with internet, it sort of left me in a retreat and I solidified a connection with you in the heart, you know? And so you're going away now is just a, a small, a small pause. So my gratitude, I can't really conjugate the words like this. It feels just so sublime to, to, to be in this universal surrender. This surrender, you see, such beautiful... everything is a sense of wonder.

I remember also, Om is here. And a time where Om said, 'No, you put on the Skype, I don't care what you do online.' There was so much available on YouTube, so many. He'd tell them, 'I don't care, you figure it out.' And just look at that. If that didn't start happening, if he didn't start online, then maybe online just so beautifully, just organically, all of you have showered me with so much love. So much, so, so grateful. Yes, thank you again and, and, and see you soon one way or the other.

Yes, definitely. Love, love to Mooji. Um, and anyone who I haven't met personally, please, please share my blessings. Big hug to you. Thank you so much.

And when all of this happens around you, there's still a part of the mind that says what? Ani says, 'I'm just going to come to India.' Mind is saying what? There's so much rest in the heart here. This one comes, she writes a message like what, one month or one and a half months before you came. She says, 'Will I be allowed to sit in Satsang every day?' I know who she is. She's never said anything on Ustream in chat, nothing. She just says this message and then she just shows up and says, 'I'm here in Bangalore now, what do I do?' I thought she forgot about it, she's not coming. But she just shows up and then every day she comes to Satsang except the time that she went to Sri Lanka for her visa. Nothing has gotten in her way. So grateful. Like the time when she was in Sri Lanka, I used to feel the chair is too empty, the chair is too empty. I used to tell all of you earlier, who are you kids? Where did you come from? Many of you who are not good with words, you don't feel like you want to express or say 'I love you' or any of that, but don't feel that when I look into your eyes I don't see the love. I can sense it so deeply, much more than any words can say. Thank you so much for giving this much love to a toenail of my Master's, my Master's feet. So much love and respect you've given. So much love.

Father, I, I find that, uh, there is some addiction to, to believe some thoughts.

The addiction is the only thing. Addiction. That's why we say that this is a rehab for God. It's like Beingness itself got addicted to these thoughts. I say don't believe your next thought. This is very important. Yes, it's an addiction. Now it is passing. Let the withdrawal symptoms jump around, let it do whatever. You are untouched by any of this. So she says, my dear, that it has been on for a long time, since four to five years. This is in response to the question I asked about the energy, how long it's been there. And then it plays more aware now since I'm doing this awakening with Mooji and more flare, this more there. So it's, it's related to Satsang. And then if it's related to Satsang, then all these energies play. It's good not to even label it and call it anything. Let the energies play like this. Even with these energies, let them play just the way they are. Don't be scared of them and don't feel special also because of them. Let the energies do whatever they want. You are the witnessing of even these. This whole universe, the whole manifestation is dancing for you, and this energy is just a part of it. So don't believe any concepts about this energy also. Completely fine. You will not be given more than can be handled. Lizal was also here for a little while, maybe she stepped outside to make some space. I know this is sounding too much like a goodbye speech. I see all these, all these beautiful snippets of this adventure of last year are appearing along with your faces. Like with Lizal, she was quiet for many months on Ustream. She didn't say a word and she said that she used to join every day, you just didn't say. And you just can't relate to that Lizal who didn't say anything. So for many months she didn't say, and then first we saw her was in that broadcast. She used to send some messages once in a while, but in the broadcast. And I know many of us had this thing which was, 'Wow, what a broadcast. A natural broadcaster.' And seeing her broadcast, there was a lot more energy here to start the Sangha channel, to get everyone, because I felt that such a beautiful light was being carried in such a strong way. And it's very good to have a platform like this. It was just like an idea which was forming, but not too much energy was going on the broadcasting till we saw Lizal's broadcast. And she was speaking about Ramana and the Talks with Ramana. And we said, 'Yes, yes, you must provide a platform to all of you to be able to share your light, to read from the Great Master, to read from the books, and to share spontaneously your own light which is here.' But I know that it has also been tremendous for some of you. This sharing seems so straightforward, but it has been such for some of you. And she says thank you. And then in clarity to come to India, I'm not sure what to do. If life is making it possible for you to come, then you must come. If life has made it possible for you to come, then you must come. As simple as that. And if it's not making it possible for you to come, then there's no need.

From the books and to share spontaneously your own light which is here, but I know that it has also been tremendous for some of you. This sharing seems so straightforward, but it has been such for some of you. And she says, 'Thank you.' And then in clarity to come to India, I'm not sure what to do. If life is making it possible for you to come, then you must come. If life has made it possible for you to come, then you must come. As simple as that. And if it's not making it possible for you to come, then there's no decision at all to make. Lizal lost power and ADSL is out, so she can't rejoin. She's with us on the iPhone. Let it go for now. I just want to say I'm so grateful, so grateful to all of you. Thank you for your beautiful presence. Thank you for your openness. Thank you for your acceptance.

Dea wanted to sing something. Namaste, Father. Yeah, thank you so much as well. Thank you. And Mike, the kids, wonderful time. What a wonderful time we had. Such, such joy having you in my life, Father. I can't even express it, so I won't try. Just such joy. Now, I've been thinking about how much I wanted to sing for you all day, and all day my voice has got croakier and croakier and croakier. So it will be, it will be a croaky voice, but it will be with all my heart, always.

Thank you, Father. I love you. I love you so much, so much. Beautiful music is also coming up, isn't it? Original compositions. Lucia, Lisa, Vaya, so many of you with your songs. Saajan is also here today. Good. Thank you, my dear. Thank you so much. Thank you, Bhagavati Ji, also. Thank you for not being the super-serious monk that we thought you were before we knew you. I used to be a little scared of her, you know. Love you. I love you, Father. Just me. Thank you, Amaya. Thank you, Lisa, Cornelia, Lucia, Shanya, Clare, Vaya, Priya, Lizal, Prima. I can't remember now which names I already took on, so thank you all of you so much. It's very funny that every time I start taking names, I realize very quickly I'm in trouble. So much love to all of you. Yes, we can play the song. Lisa's new song, yes.

Very nice, very beautiful. I feel this will be a very nice video with the slideshow of some of your photographs. I would love to see something very sweet, beautiful. Thank you so much, my dear. We can play the invitations now.

Om Purnamadah Purnamidam Purnat Purnamudachyate Purnasya Purnamadaya Purnamevavashishyate. Om Shanti, Shanti, Shanti. Om Namah Shivaya. Om Bhagavan Sri Mooji Ki Jai. May Satguru Mooji Ji bring all that is auspicious to your lives. May you be drenched in love, peace, and joy. May you forever carry the Satguru in your heart. Thank you all so much for being in satsang. Satguru Sri Mooji Ji Ki Jai, Jai, Jai. Guruji, Jai. Okay, thank you, Dea. Good to see you. Good.

So during these five weeks, let whatever come and go. Let our mantra be 'Thank you.' May we carry Mooji in our hearts. May our mantra be just 'Thank you' for everything. Thank you. Naya was peeking in from there. Love you, my dear. Thank you so much. Thank you, Suvam. Thank you, Satsanga, Saajan, Prima, and Deenan, Dea, Tara, and your sister as well, my dear. Thank you so much. Guru Mooji. Jai.