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Presuming to Know What´s Going On - 22nd June 2016

June 22, 201610:4243 views

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Ananta addresses concerns about noise in satsang, distinguishing between practical audio solutions and the mind's tendency to judge others. He encourages students to drop presumptions and remain devoted regardless of external conditions.

Let’s not be so quick to jump to conclusions and say I know why this one is doing this.
I would have gone to satsang if it was happening in a coal mine or a fish market.
Everything that happens here is the will of my Father.

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judgmentsanghamind tendenciesenergetic releaseunconditional lovepresumptionpracticality

Transcript

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Ananta

So there's been a lot of discussion, I saw yesterday and this morning, on Facebook about the noise in satsang. If you like, we always—I feel like we are one family, so there's nothing that we must hide from each other. So let's maybe bring it up for some discussion. So I just wanted to speak for a few minutes about this whole topic about noise in satsang and how it's become too noisy and things like this. And I feel that you must look at it in two ways. First, there are some reports which I really enjoyed hearing, and some which I didn't enjoy so much, to be honest. One that I enjoyed—I enjoyed this as the best friend—as I said, 'Father, the audio setup in the room is like this, where the mic is like this, so if you're using the internal mic from the Mac, the sound from the rest of the room also seems like it's very close and it's being projected to the rest of the world.' Very practical. No judgment, just clear that this is the practical situation and this is what we can do to resolve it. So this leads to some observations about maybe they have an area which is, you know, not so hard to go through the mic. So I enjoyed hearing these practical suggestions about what could be done.

Ananta

The second aspect is this aspect which I really wanted all of us to contemplate together, which is this aspect of presuming to know what is going on. So, to presume to—and I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, I'm only saying that generally it can be a mind tendency to say, 'Yes, this one is just asking for attention. Maybe she or he is not getting enough attention, so she's just faking some noise so that she gets attention from me.' Or he is an ancient... but do we really know this? Or isn't it just another presumption from the mind? And even if we know this and someone is actually faking it, then do we know what is the best solution for them? Do we know whether the best solution is to leave the satsang or to come closer in satsang? We don't know any of these things.

Ananta

So what I felt to share was that I understand the practical aspect of it. Then, who doesn't want to come to satsang and hear a sound which is crystal clear? I understand this. Of course, we've never been able to achieve that; the object was never meant to be that good. But the second aspect which I wanted all of us to be able to look at is: what is it that we presume to know? Do we really know what is happening? Do we really know that there is no such thing as energetic releases? Do we really know what is the best solution in either case? If it is an authentic energetic experience, or even if it is faking an energetic experience, do we even know what is all—what is the truth? Or is it the same old functioning of the mind that says, 'I love my brothers and sisters forever, unless it's inconvenient'?

Ananta

So you must be able to look at these things. And this is not going to blame anyone, for sure. If I was in a Sangha, I would also want it to be very quiet. So I understand. And we'll look at what practically is possible. Maybe as it has been suggested, some solution to this for you to be added to my back. I realize that once I went with the mind, then all the room sound was coming a lot more. Sitting here, I didn't realize that it's bothering all of you so much. I didn't realize it was that loud. I just presumed that my voice was loud because it's facing this way, my voice is the result, I presumed that. But obviously, that is not true. So those practical things, of course, we can look at. But let's not be so quick to jump to conclusions and say, 'I know why this one is doing this. They have no consideration for me and the rest of the Sangha.' Do we really know any of this? And even if it is true, how do you know that it's not better for them to come closer, make all the noise they can, fulfill such things, and then get it? We don't really—I don't know the answers to these things. But I do know that everything that happens here is the will of—is the will of my Father.

Ananta

Some of you went as far as to say that, 'Okay, I can't be in satsang anymore because it's too noisy. I can't be in satsang anymore because it's too much.' And somehow that came as a surprise to me. Sometimes I read something like that, it's a surprise to me because my case is: I would have gone to satsang if it was happening in a coal mine or a fish market. I don't feel that if Guruji was sitting in the crowded marketplace surrounded by fruit vendors or fish sellers, I would show up. So I want to say that I'm not neglecting the practical aspect of it. In fact, if I had known earlier that it was so—that this one was not audible—we would have tried to do some experiments with the mics, we'd think about how to set it up. But I feel also it's a great opportunity for us to explore this tendency to judge, explore this tendency to presume to know what is going on.

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Ananta

And I must also address that here, how this expression flows is too soft. So if you ever expect me to tell one of my brothers and sisters in Sangha, or my children in the Sangha, that, 'You know, you should leave the satsang hall,' it's not going to happen. Unless somebody disrespects my Father, unless someone disrespects Guruji—you know, all of you know that that's the only line I have that I move. It is so. When you feel that if somebody is, you know, vomiting in the satsang hall or somebody is laughing in the satsang hall, they are going to have a word from me to say, 'Well, you should leave because you're too noisy,' it's not going to happen. And if it is going to bother you, then I don't—I'm not forcing you to stay. I am not going to create false expectations through that. I've taken the feedback in such a way that no idea now should make a little bit of noise. You don't know what's going on. I'm going to say, 'You please use the eraser.' It will give me great joy if you will say that that creates an inconvenience. Really, something here doesn't like it. I appreciate that, of course. It's very natural to want to like it.

Ananta

I send all my love and blessings to my brothers and sisters, and I don't know what's happening with them, to be honest, but I send them all my love. But you know, I am naive. You know that. Then the trolls came into such solutions. There was the time when these two started coming to satsang and I wanted to share with him, I wanted to communicate to them. Okay, so what you say gets me. I mean, everyone says, 'We just will see you, they don't want that, they want that extra attention.' Then, yeah, I think, 'Send me a video, don't take the trolls.' I recognize, okay, that's something he removes with that naivety. I recognize it.

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