Playfully Experiment With This, Then Tell Me How It Goes - 19th July 2016

So you find that as you experiment with this, you might find that there is more life energy flowing. You may find you develop less than was required. Definitely, definitely put it to practice. Yes, clearly experiment with this very playfully and then you will find... if you don't find yourself experimenting with this, because even if that is not there, that even you can experiment with. Because so much belief has been given to breakfast or something, you see, then you inquire and say: so who's making breakfast now? Who is moving the body? Who is nodding your head just now? Yeah?

It is said that for the movement of the hand to happen, some neurons have to fire. Some thousands or millions of neurons have to fire. Do you know how to fire a neuron? No. Many of the involuntary actions, I have no control. But this now, words are coming with the firing of neurons. Voluntary action, which seemingly... so how do you do that? That's what we're asking. We are getting into the mechanics of how you do it. You say, 'Voluntarily I am asking this question.' For the question to be asked, your mouth had to move. For the mouth to move, some nerves and neurons have to be activated. How did you do that? Yeah, you don't know how to move a single inch of anything. This presumed entity, which we cannot even find, does not exert some mystical power here and move the body. Do you see? How can the person be in control if it is not even found? This is a funny thing, though. This is the power of our pretend. This is the Leela now. So much faith can go into that one which you cannot find.

And how we are in denial of all that which is here. Oh, when I have inquired, this is the practical problem: I affirm that it's all because of this body and the survival of the body. Most of the thoughts are about protecting its survival and the species. So if that was not there, then most of these things will disappear automatically. So the question is: okay, so whose body is this? The question of survival of body means that this must be my body, no? See, I'm not the reporting of all the sensations, the physical discomfort and whatever is happening, not to the person next to me, but to somewhere here. Somewhere here, not anybody else. And so that if I put my hand in the fire, there is a natural thing to take it back, otherwise I'm going to destroy my hand. So that is where the mind... or the question is: who is experiencing these sensations?

Is there a 'someone' there?

Yeah, somewhere there. Yes, there is found a 'someone' there.

Okay, what does she look like, this 'someone'?

It's just... yeah, it's just where the sensations are getting reported. Sensations go to any sensation of body, yeah, and show me the 'someone' who is experiencing them.

I mean, if I stay with it, it just becomes a wide openness. It just becomes a wide openness.

But I don't want to do that when my eyes are open and going about. It's not becoming wide openness.

It's yes, but like I was saying to someone before today, that to confirm that the sun comes from the east, you don't have to stare at the sun all day, isn't it? The recognition can be recognized in an instant, and after that it becomes... if some doubt is still believed, then we check again. If some doubt is still believed, we check again. But the coming to a constriction of our attention and it not leaving home cannot be freedom, yeah? You see, this is a misconception that we have of freedom. If freedom meant that attention would not move out of awareness and I was only aware of this and no phenomena would come in front of me, then why would I create this world in the first place? It must be for this phenomenal tasting, phenomenal experiencing. It doesn't change the nature of what I am. So what we have confused is that the moment of recognition, we have confused it to be a state, and you say that 'Now I must be in that state only, only then I will be free.' Understand? Yeah?

So this recognition is enough to show you that there is no person here. So when these thoughts are coming and saying, 'But you have to run your life, you have to make breakfast, you have to pay bills,' the question is: who? I don't find anybody here. It's not even like this, like you're having this conversation automatically, it just gets drawn.

Yeah, many times I know I'm woken up at some time because something needs to be done and I'm like, 'Oh my god, I've slept off and now I've been woken up.' I mean, a lot of things happen on a day-to-day basis that shows that, you know, something else is watching over or making things happen. But at the same time, the recognition is not complete. There is still the sense that something is happening to you.

As long as that sense is there, then you will say, 'Okay, okay, no person here, but please make sure nothing happens to me, okay?' So that is like deal-making with God. 'I surrender to you, but actually please, you know, something is watching over me very nicely.' Suppose that 'something' was a trickster and just wanted to have fun, like Krishna, really? Then? Because when you see that nothing there is to suffer, then this fear of what is going to happen, what the future entails, 'Is it taking care of my stuff or not?'—it won't be there. It will truly be more away from pain, just make sure that the body is healthy, yes. But really, the 'I' that moves away from pain is which one? It's naturally designed in this realm, as consciousness has designed it, that the movement away from pain happens. Just like a small child also knows it is wrong to lie even before they've been necessarily told, yes? So some part of some things are part and parcel of this brain or whatever that is; it's all programmed, yes.

So that is not mine, right? That is...

Now, that is this part of this... even the mind is consciousness, actually, is it? But just because the mind is consciousness doesn't mean that we must believe it. I jokingly say when the audience is not new, I say: but even an axe murderer is consciousness. And somebody resists, 'Oh, but the mind is consciousness, why you pick on the mind all the time?' You see, even the serial killer is consciousness, an axe murderer is consciousness. Let's go meet them, hug them. Who does that? Nobody. The same way, you must not believe what the mind is saying, although of course it is consciousness itself. So is there any time believing the mind is helpful? Okay, how are you? Answer when nobody else is hearing.

Okay, when it is reporting factually that the color of the shirt is green.

Come again?

The color of the shirt is gray, or whatever.

Yeah, okay, then it's okay, believe it.

So second-level thinking is not required.

Yes. Anytime you enjoy it, it is trouble. Okay? If it's saying something to you, 'You would rather I...' then that is probably an associated importance which really is... you wanted some concession for the mind. So I'll give it that. Thank you.