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Pain Can Be There Without Suffering - 7th October 2016

October 7, 20163:5741 views

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Ananta guides the seeker to allow pain to exist without identifying as a sufferer, explaining that when we stop attaching a personal story to physical or emotional intensity, it becomes a movement of consciousness rather than suffering.

Love can be directed towards pain without buying into the idea that there is an individual sufferer.
Pain is experienced by consciousness itself; we are not to resist it, only to stop identifying with it.
In the allowing of pain, there is no suffering because there is no story of a 'me' being hurt.

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Transcript

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Seeker

Something which is true right now, the only thing that's true is that I'm very aware that I'm here. I don't know where I'm at, but I know I'm here because I'm perceiving everything. Is there something missing in this? Like, what is there? Something which is feeling like I still have to get somewhere or I'm not getting something?

Ananta

No, it's just deepening.

Seeker

What would deepening mean? Which just feels like Grace is taking the last bits of attachments away, you know, especially with self-consciousness and the body. And having to, you know, with all the intense pain and the tears came earlier, but I didn't identify. I didn't feel identified, but I felt the pain too. So it was trying to understand how that is, and just watching everything, just perceiving everything, and knowing that I'm looking from a different place.

Ananta

Very good. So there can be a sense of compassion which comes for the pain that is here without us even picking up the idea that 'I am a sufferer.' So love can be directed towards pain. We're not to try and resist pain and push it away. We can direct love towards it and we can direct attention towards it also. There's no problem with that. We're not to resist it in any way. We only not buying into the idea that there is somebody here individually that is a sufferer. Pain is experienced by Consciousness itself. That which I am, this is what it is experiencing itself to be right now.

Seeker

A question comes up: who's crying? Because is it just the body crying? Crying is also appearing. The pain can have this effect. So is it just like a normal crying which is happening as a result of pain in the body?

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Ananta

I think it was just a release when you acknowledged that, allowed me to acknowledge that there was pain. Yes, and the tears came. It's just more of a relief.

Seeker

Yes, yes. Because somewhere we might have this sense that the pain that is there, you must push it away or not—

Ananta

I'm not pushing. I'm just allowing everything because that's why I'm here. So, just letting everything dissolve.

Ananta

Yeah. And in this allowing, even in this pain—this is what we were talking about earlier—in this allowing, the pain is experienced but it is still not what we would call suffering, because we're not picking up the idea of there being a sufferer. Yeah, there's no story. I'm not giving it a story.

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