Is There a Deeper Knowing Than Perception? - 30th November 2017

So all this we have to say: what is this mind? Who is perceiving this mind? My task is: is the mind perceiving the mind? It is not a secondhand report. This is not telling you what your mind is saying, you know? And yet there is some hesitation in calling it 'I'. What is that? Because we have identified 'I' with the wrong thing for so long. So now, producing... oh, that one is not perceiving the mind, and yet it is you, you see? So for a while, it can seem like it is not 'I', but it is 'I'. But it is a new type of 'I', a fresh 'I', you see? With fresh eyes. This fresh 'I' that we have not really looked at. You just presume that the mind is 'I', or who the mind is representing is 'I'.

Now over the last few days, I asked you: who is it? Where is the person that has this lawyer who's representing it? And you looked and you found, oh, nobody like that is there. But who is even making this discovery? What is the quality of that one? Definitely not the mind. This is the definition of the mind which Bhagavan sometimes refers to: the mind is nothing but a bundle of thoughts. So a bundle of thoughts cannot perceive themselves. This is a bigger definition of mind, but don't worry about that, we don't use them. So you stay with this question: what is perceiving it? What is coming? What is the space between? Then next, what is found? What perceives this coming and going? Is it you? Tell me about that 'you'.

This is a question for all of you. The one that perceives thoughts and the space between thoughts, what can you tell me about that 'you'? Can that one be perceived? And how are you reporting on it? Is there a deeper knowing than perception? I won't spoil it completely for you. This beautiful contemplation... my Master says this is the 'Piranha' question: Can the perceiver be perceived? As you contemplate this question, all ideas about the false that you considered yourself to be start to fall away. The Piranha eats everything in its path. Every word of this is fresh, like this. It will eat up all the concepts that you had about yourself.

Now we have a question like this, and don't change the question. But the mind will say, 'Let's go to: Am I aware now?' Let's go to: 'Can I stop being?' And you already started digging a well with this question. Water is near. Leave this, because it is a feeling trail. Something is perceiving the space between. This one... can this perceiver be perceived?

I see you can only perceive the perceiver as this occurrence.