Intuitively, In the Realm of Perceptions, Is There Something Stronger or Weaker?

What else? So you can notice that the recognition apparent, is it just perceptions at any point of time? Actually, for all of you, because you had the insight, at any point of time I can ask you: Is it just perceptions apparent? Is it just perception? Is it only perception? Is it only perception? No, that's self-discovery. Can you imagine? That's it. What else is there? Is it just perceptions and something else and you? No. Is there any distinction between perceptions and you? In communication, when we have to speak, then we make the qualitative distinction between manifest experiential perceivable Self and the unperceived Self only for communication or pointing in Satsang, but in reality, no distinction.

Now, okay, favorite one for many, many, many. Over 10 years I've heard this 10,000 times, which is that 'It is not narrative, see? It's not story. It is purely energetic. It is purely energetic and it comes and it's so strong.' Now, all this is not story? It's not story, because it's actual? It's actually so strong? For whom? What is so strong for Being? What is so strong for that which is aware of Being? What is so strong? Is there... this was in the broadcast, I was asking whether inherently in the realm of perception something is more meaningful, valuable than another inherently? And inherently means without labels or applying thought. Intuitively, in the realm of perception, is there something stronger or weaker? Inherently, anything stronger or weaker in the realm of perception? Anything more meaningful, less meaningful in the realm of perception?

If it was true like that, then Guruji would not have told us that nothing has inherent meaning in the realm of perception. You see? Because inherently there would be a value judgment possible saying 'This is better, this is worse, this is stronger, this is weaker, this is up, this is down.' So don't buy this false notion which the mind is presuming, which the mind is proposing, saying 'It's not me, you're over me, I see it, we have broken up, but look, I'm just telling you about this energy which is so strong for you.' What am I doing? 'It's so strong.' But is it strong for whom? For that which we just discovered to be all there is and beyond all there is? Strong for that? Or is this judgment about strong or weak just an excuse to get back into false identification?

This is worth contemplation because we keep coming back to this saying 'It's just energetically.' That's like saying the waves are so strong on the surface of the ocean that the ocean is getting hurt. 'I'm not thinking about the waves, it's the waves themselves, they are hurting the ocean.' So without this meaning-making construction that this is what something means, we cannot even distinguish good, bad, better, worse. And this is the eating the apple of good and bad; it removes the innocence. These value judgments, these truth-value distinctions that we make, then take away the innocence which is needed to enter the Kingdom of Heaven.

So, 'It's not my thoughts, it is just energetic.' It is only a thought! Forget about it. No energy can appear here which can scratch me even in the slightest. You see? I am saying this on our behalf. If an energy came which was strong enough to dissolve, to eat up this entire universe, it would still not hurt you. It cannot be cut, it cannot be... as Krishna has reminded us. You needed to have been born to be hurt. You need to have taken some shape, but you never have. And this is what you are discovering. You cannot take the 'me' along, that's all. And you cannot feed the 'me' the fruits of this discovery. You cannot feed the fruits of this discovery to this 'me.' If you feed it to that 'me' which is only the 'me,' then becoming the 'spiritual me' is this. This is because the mind will chant 'But what about me? But what about me?' It doesn't mean that you have to buy it.