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If You Can Bet Your Life and Everything That Happens In It On God, Then This Is the Satsang For You

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Ananta emphasizes that true spirituality is the total sacrifice of individual will to God's will, without any expectation of personal benefit or peace. He urges seekers to die to the self and live in intuitive faith.

True spirituality is that gather everything that you have and burn it up in the altar of God.
God does not care about the non-existent one... nobody cares about you.
I don't want winners here; I want losers. If you can't be complete losers, you cannot follow me.

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Transcript

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Seeker

So this one was fantasy. I was crying a long time and it was two weeks ago, the first time you were telling about these things and I was like, shocking the system. And yeah, I didn't find a way, just crying and to offer up. But this is the way now to say that also I had this Friday, Saturday, it was like full, full power. That was the thing that I was needed because this one was not really happy since starting the journey. And obviously I was a little bit frustrated because crazy is talking about joy, it was like, it's not so much joy. But this is the one, like you were talking about what kind of what he's doing in my heart, that I have to offer up everything. And I just heard in the satsang that Guruji was talking about a lot of things that sometimes you are experiencing kind of having some fears. But Mahima was talking about these things and we're just telling the story about it, that young man who went in front of Jesus and he asked about what is the greatest commandment. That Jesus said that you have to love your Father, your God, in your heart or your soul and your strength and all your mind, and your neighbor as yourself. He said that I was doing this kind of since I lived. But Jesus said that then, yes, please follow me. So there are a few things which I am afraid and I am offering up and whenever I can. But now I have the greatest possibility because I'm in front, in front of the Guru, and I'm offering up. Because Guruji was telling that there are some who are saying that whatever it takes. So I don't want to spend my time because I know there are so many things which can, although I invited to try to be honest and try to be soon and see you and try to do anything, everything. But yeah, yeah, this is the possibility to offer up everything and to say it loudly, I'm not to hide. And also to tell that there are some fears, but I don't want to care. So whatever you say that I have to give up, I'm saying in front of everyone, I would like to give up and I would like to stay and to follow. And please bless me to be able to follow always my heart because that's not an easy thing too. I'm trying and I already see that that is your grace here, but don't give up on me. Let me, I don't know, whatever, because this life, it's to realize the complete truth. I don't know. So that's my, and please whatever comes out from your mouth, that shall be done and I will try to do whatever is needed. If I have to test, I have to sell everything or whatever, please. But I didn't want to make any kind of, because everything is a kind of egoistic, I try to learn. So you see, I don't know how it went out, but...

Ananta

So he said that Guruji was talking about the story and we also recently read the same thing where this man, he comes to Jesus and he says, "What do I have to do?" So Jesus says, "Just you have to follow the commandments. Don't do any of the bad stuff." And this man said, "I'm already doing all of this since I was young. Already doing all of this. So what else do I need to do?" So Jesus said, "Sell everything you have, give it to the poor and follow me." And this man could not do because he was quite wealthy and he was still attached to his wealth, so he turned back. So he said to me that, "You tell me whatever is needed to be done." It's very touched by this. What I want to tell all of you is that even the higher sacrifice that we think we can make, even the highest sacrifice that we think we can make, is not a true sacrifice if it has another end of the bargain: that in return for my sacrifice of my offering, therefore then I deserve God or I deserve the truth. And some other children also wrote to me after last satsang that they're really burning because in their hearts they feel like the truth is going to come, the truth is going to come. And I'm saying there's no guarantee. You have to die to yourself without an expectation that God will live in your heart. It's a very second thing because that is the promise of spirituality: give up on yourself and then your life is God. What about you give up on yourself because you have been guided to, with no expectation of anything? Otherwise our rationality, our intellect, can still get involved saying that sounds like a good deal actually. I give up on the ego, I give up on my life, and in return I get something much bigger than that. So it still sounds like a rational deal somewhere, and that is the promise of spiritual marketing anyway. Now I'm really pushing the limit and I'm saying give up on yourself, die to yourselves, and you don't know what's going to happen. Don't know what's going to happen. Okay? So what if in that story that man sold everything, followed Jesus, but never found God? Would there still have been the good story? Yeah, yeah. Suppose he sold everything because Jesus said, yeah, and he gave it all to the poor and then he came back to Jesus and Jesus said, "No, you go away." Yeah, that's a bit hard. That's very important.

Seeker

Follow unwaveringly, yes. That's why I was telling, because Friday you told us that this is the thing and I realized that, yeah, because otherwise you always kind of, we will have to get something. But I know that it's, that's why I wanted to say in front of you because otherwise like my mind is, if I am offering up, yeah, so if something comes without, yeah, without kind of offering up, it's my mind was like, like pushing me like... so it's not an easy thing because I remember when I decided not to work in that place anymore and to do something kind of caring, to care, and after the training what I saw what I have to do, I was like shocked to, and my mind was like, this is very, very good.

Ananta

So the usual idea of spirituality is that I will go within, I will go inside so that something in my outside can get better, you see? And outside could even be feeling. Outside doesn't have to be outside the body. Outside is the realm of phenomena, you see. So if I go within, if I find God, then my feeling has to be better, my mind has to be peaceful, my relationships are better, or my house is better, something. But I am saying the opposite. I am saying the opposite. Use whatever is showing up outside to dive deeper within. The idea is not for the within to help the without. The idea is for the outside to provide, if there is fuel necessary, it can provide the fuel necessary to go within. And to go within is to go within. There is no other motive. To go within is to meet God for God's sake, for truth's sake, with no other motive and no other way to check, you see. So this is the difference between false spirituality and true spirituality. False spirituality says you go to God and you will become better and your life will become better. True spirituality is that gather everything that you have and burn it up in the altar of God. I don't mean phenomenally necessarily, I mean everything that you are attached to, everything that you think you are right about. For what? For truth, for God itself. If you are still going to be in spirituality saying, "Oh, now I have done meditation, I've done inquiry, I've done all of this for so long, all of this for so long and nothing is changed. I still don't feel peaceful, my relationships are still bad, my life is not improved," but it has nothing to do with spirituality. To do with spirituality, it is not about that. The inner is not to serve the outer, you see. So to withdraw from the way of the head to the way of the heart is not so that your life can become something better or something that you imagine you wanted to do it through phenomenal ways and you did not succeed at doing that, so you want to, you want now to do it through Godly ways. And you will not succeed at that because it has nothing to do with this. It has nothing to do with anything after "I am." Is that a good enough boundary? Nothing to do with anything after "I am." It has anything to do with it now. How will you check whether you're succeeding or failing? It is not about that one at all. Like I was sharing in this time satsang, nobody cares. Nobody cares about the false one. But to call it the false one sort of makes it a reassurance. Nobody cares about you. Nobody cares about you. Can you see? Because God does not care about the non-existent one, and the non-existent one doesn't exist. You care about itself. So that is the delusion of self-concern where no such self actually exists. If self actually exists, nobody writes to me a report about "I am." Nobody writes to me a report about "I am" or about "I." Everybody writes about after "I am" or talks about after "I am." But nobody cares about that.

Seeker

Is that a lack of compassion or a full compassion? Because the kind of seemingly personally, yes, but that is out of God's grace, which is the kindness of God. The love of God is beyond and that's why God provides this help. But God is not obliged to. Like I was saying, you can keep setting the dinner table but there is no guarantee that God will come. Okay, so we can empty ourselves.

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Ananta

So the seeker in the spiritual journey, you see, gets crushed upon hearing this. This child, she said to me, she said, "But my heart is clear, my heart is so clear. It is telling me that God will come." So, but you're saying there's no guarantee. So between the clarity of the heart and the Guru's reminder there is no guarantee, who can get crushed? Only the false. So if my idea in satsang these days is to make you uncomfortable, is to kill you off, this is to kill you off. Not to hang on to the one that hangs on to who is not the reality of you. This is the one that is in time, is not the reality of you. That one has to come to a full submission, if not a death. That one has to come to a full submission. So all that squeezes that one's throat is actually auspicious. And I don't want to reassure anyone for that reason. I don't want to reassure anyone for that reason because who hangs on to reassurance is the false one. Do you want God? Do you love God independent of what God does for you? That is the question.

Seeker

You have no right to, yeah, I had no right to because you can take a breath with His gift. I am very grateful because it was shown to me through many, many challenges and that's why that I am caring for people, it's, I'm thinking it's a blessing because whenever I'm challenged, yes, some things I have to kind of die and that something has to happen and some miracles happen usually. And when I am, but when I'm finishing the work, I'm going home, I see that the mind already comes slowly, slow, like, yeah, it's, that's why I was like quickly, quickly have been coming to India because like, it's like I can't stay more than one, two months at home because it's, let's see, that's very, very sneaky, very, very tricky. Thank you.

Ananta

Yeah, so many of us have this report actually, no? Like what my... innocently, but the fact is that for, for the ego it becomes the defense. "I threw a tantrum with Father, I threw a tantrum with God, I swear to Him with this," you see? Who is getting some power back in the tantrum? So what happens when you say, "I am angry with God"? What is it really about? It is to get some sense of control back, at least that you can have a response against God, you see. But you have no right to. We'll say, our mind will say, "Ah, but God loved me so much, I can get..." I know.

Seeker

That just come, came up very strongly and it was really like that kind of mind attack or what. And I saw that it's the resistance to, to hand it over to God, to talk also, to hand over also this to God, yes. And it was, I, it was kind of dissolving, but I still have, I want to ask for your blessing for to dissolve this completely. Yes, yes. This is also entangled with so such feelings in a long, in a relationship of responsibility and guilt and all this, these things. And I really love like to offer very contaminated in the hands of God.

Ananta

It's very good, very good. Put the spotlight on this. So beautiful. Because what happens is that to replace my will about everything, to replace my will about everything...

Seeker

Oh God, yes. And it was... I... it was kind of dissolving, but I still have... I want to ask for your blessing to dissolve this community. Yes, yes, this is also entangled with such feelings in a long relationship of responsibility and guilt and all these things. And I really love... like to offer it, very contaminated, into the hands of God.

Ananta

It's very good, very good. Put the spotlight on this. So beautiful, because what happens is that to replace my will about everything—to replace my will about everything with His will—is true faith. And our intuitive insight, of course, helps us become faithful, and our faith helps us with our intuitive insight. It is a beautiful, helpful circle, a virtuous circle rather than a vicious one. It's very good to hand over everything; then the mind cannot push your buttons and take you away from that intuitive insight. And to have the intuitive insight that 'I am not this me, but I am this pure awareness itself' helps you to not fall for the mind, to hand over. So both are helpful, both are very important.

Ananta

But I am bringing the second part, which is the way of faith, so much more into focus because I feel like otherwise we can fall into the trap of a very convenient, egotistical sort of spirituality, you see? Where, because the highest has been made available to us through the grace of Guruji—the highest has been made available to us—so then the ego can easily latch onto that. And quickly we can become the Ravana-type ego. It's about 'It's all the same, I am the same as God, there is no difference,' you see, all this. So that's why I've been saying that we can become one with Ram, we can become one with Ram, but first we must become Hanuman. We cannot go jump over that step. Just like Hanuman jumped over the ocean, we cannot jump over Hanuman to go straight to Ram till we become fully submissive to God's will without tantrum. Hanuman did not follow Ram's will and then get angry with Ram. 'You know best, Lord. You know best, Father.' And trust that.

Seeker

Thank you for giving this great advice because I said that I was like that. Like, I was like, 'I don't know everything,' so everything is like clear. And it was... and it's a very... the mind is a very, very trickster. And I'm so happy that you made it so clear, what is the problem.

Ananta

Very good. And yes, I was getting the sense for many months, actually, where I felt like my heart wants to say some words but they're not there yet, because I was noticing the simplicity of insight and yet how the ego is still perpetuating. And the ego that is not submitted to God's will is not free. There's another line from Jesus; he says, 'You may call me, you may say Lord, Lord, but if you don't follow my Father's will, then you don't love me in reality.'

Seeker

When you were talking about Jesus, it was you, and you thought to talk about... you have to be innocence and the child. Jesus said that if you will not become like this child, you will not enter anything. Yet the same, everything is the same. So you have to be really, really... because I was talking with... there's a wanting and a grasping mind, it's full of desire. And there is a judging mind that we call the intellect.

Ananta

The judging mind has been trained, you see, to want what is better for me. 'So this is better for me. I don't like this one because they don't help me, they don't do this.' That is the judging mind. So in satsang, we are turning the judging mind also around to want what God wants, to judge only what God wants. So with anything, we can ask this question: 'What do I want in this? What is my willingness?' What to do with that? Like, given where you're sitting in satsang, what do you want now? So leave it. You have to leave it. Everything that you want, you have to leave. Replace that with God's will. It cannot be that God is in service to my resume, okay? My will has to collapse.

Ananta

So your intellect, now, if you follow towards the satsang, will help you with this. It will remind you of this. So your intellect, which was selfish, by coming to satsang is being retrained now. It is being retrained through work on God's side and saying, 'I am getting all stressed about this. What is it about? What do I want?' you see? So, 'Can I let that go?' Your intellect will help you with this. And then this very intellect will get dissolved in your heart. So the wanting mind is chopped up by the judging mind, and then the judging mind is dissolved in your heart. So that judging mind which has been claimed for the ego so far, okay, now it will play for me. That is the point of these words. The question is: Is it from here or is it for God? Is it for me, or what is my will?

Seeker

What's your name? What's in it for me? For me, it works if something comes up, yeah, that in the next moment I say, 'If God wants, next breath you won't have.' So stop it. Yes, that's good, that's cool. And then I come out.

Ananta

Yes, this is mind attack. So when you want to come out of mind attack, you see, don't want that. Even when you want to come out of mind attack, don't use a tactic to bring you out of the mind attack. Don't want the point. Because the tactical spirituality, yes, the self-help type spirituality, yeah, then you just check on yourself and say, 'Oh, now am I peaceful? Now am I listening? What do I want?' So the mind can play the trick of telling you that you want to be free from the mind and now what you need to do, you see? And that can become a mental sort of checker-guy type spirituality. Complete submission to God's will.

Seeker

Ask the same questions today, see, you know. So yours... like you're saying, but if you sense that it's just going so completely wrong—I mean, your sense is going and it's feeling true, even it's not even just going wrong, it's actually even beginning some relief going into that. So how do you... so you're saying don't try and change? I mean, like, of course you said, 'What do you want?' Yeah, I wanted... I wanted out to myself.

Ananta

Don't want that. You said if you're going to come, just dance. Okay, it's okay, okay. That is to turn. To submit your will is truly to turn. Otherwise, you will turn with one eye open. Well, now, okay, right now let's start. What do you want now? Yeah, lie down. Okay, so don't want that. So whatever happens, the idea should be 'Thy will be done.' And what tells us what Thy will is? So, allow our life to move in the light of God is the will of God. And when there is a particular guidance that is needed, even that will be revealed to us in the heart.

Ananta

So don't quickly jump to 'Oh, whatever is happening is God's will,' and then that becomes a defense also. Now we get into very, very subtle realms of where the ego hides within spirituality. So then we can save the ego also by saying, 'Ah, everything is happening for my good because it's all God's will.' Oh, my good? Not even that. So if God tells you in the heart to let go of all of this, then let go of all of this. Otherwise, very quickly all of this becomes self-serving, self-serving with the wrong self completely. Of the worship, even mentally worship, yes, yes, all that. My will should be handed over to God's will. So God not to help you... that's why I'm loving the term for myself, I'm loving the term 'servant of God.' Not master, not Guru, please come on.

Ananta

If somebody says, 'So what are you? Are you a master? Are you a teacher? Are you a guru?' I feel like best is to say, 'I'm a servant.' Best is to say, 'I'm a servant.' Because in that term, you see, there's a reminder to myself also saying that my only job is to be in service to God's will, not anything else. And God's will may be whatever God's will is. That service is what I want to offer up this life to. So to be in service, to be a servant, is to hand over our individual will and give it to God. Let Thy will become truly. Otherwise, it's a very comfortable lip service, armchair spirituality.

Ananta

I am getting my view because now I went to Guruji and he showed me, 'Ah, I wanted awareness. Am I aware now? Yes, I am aware. This is working. I wanted God.' He said, 'Can you stop being?' I can't stop being. I got God also. See, this 'I' which is winning now, you see the name, all those... even in this winning, it is throwing lots of tantrums. So this one has to fully be chopped up. Leave it chopped up. How will this one be fully chopped up? When truly with integrity you can say that it is not my will anymore, it is only God's will.

Ananta

And you have no excuse now left. Is it because in the world they may say, 'Whatever happens is for God's will'? No. Whatever happens is God's will? No. But I'm saying the higher will of God is to allow you yourself to live in the light of God. Difference. Allow yourself to live in the light of God. And that moment where you have spent in the light of God, that is unfolded according to God's will. But when you have spent it hypnotized in your head, you have gone against the will of God. And purposely inserting that fire there because in Advaita sometimes we can make it a very comfortable spirituality, you see? I want this fire to burn up the ego. Because when you do not follow God's will, when you do not live in God's light, when you do not hear the guidance from your heart, then that is not the will of God. It is still the will of God, but not the highest will of God.

Seeker

While you have mind and ego, you can't really know the way.

Ananta

You can, and you can always know. You can always know. That's why I said I want to make this very clear: how to live in faith. How to live in faith? Ask yourself what you want first. Okay, chop the head of that. Let go of that. If you don't... if you want a more elegant way of saying it, you see what you want. You want freedom? Forget about it first. Too much of the risk. Something is not for you, yeah, you know. You say, 'But I came to satsang for freedom.' Now he's saying let go. Then that is not for you. Nothing. So you say, 'I want God more than anything else.' No, you don't. You want what you want. Yeah, invitation to let go of the yes.

Ananta

So how to live in faith? First, ask yourself what you want and be truthful at least to yourself. You don't have to expose it, you don't have to say it in satsang, you don't have to tell your family, nothing. Be truthful to yourself. What is it that you want? Let go of that. Replace that with God's will. How to replace that with God's will? Let go of your head. Let go of these thoughts. Let them come and go. Be open and empty. Be open and empty and allow everything to directly move from within His presence, from within His light. Let Your presence move the universe with no mental intervention.

Ananta

It doesn't... remember one tip is: don't try to do the opposite of what you wanted. That's nothing to do with what I'm saying, because many times that can be a mind trick, just like you tell your kids, you know, reverse psychology. Because the mind can also start playing with that with you. So the idea is not that. The idea is to let it go and replace it with an emptiness. It's a conceptual emptiness. Allow the presence to act. Just like the sharing of satsang happens directly in the light of the heart with no mental intervention. My mind has no idea what is going to be said next, and yet the movement of this body happens. And a lot of our life is already happening that way; we don't see it that way.

Ananta

So first is that. But if still the mind comes and convinces you that you need to decide—'Do I have to book the ticket or not? Do I have to send the email or not? Do I have to break up with my girlfriend or not? Do I have to whatever-whatever or not?'—then don't conclude or decide anything till you hear clear guidance from your heart. Even if you've never heard it before, okay? Even if we're like, 'But God, I never hear. God, I have never heard.' Then trust the silence. What will you lose? You lose maximum this life. This life you are already ready to give up, you see? You have to bet this life; otherwise, spirituality is all fake. If you can't bet this life, say, 'I never hear God, so what am I going to do? Nothing.' You die next time, worst case. No? Accept that. Accept that.

Ananta

So true satsang is for those who can take this risk, even if they feel weak in moments. It's okay, but overall you feel in your heart that 'I'm willing to jump in.' It is not... I'll just recap for some of you who joined late. The type of spirituality which says, 'I go within so that my without is helped. I go to God, I find myself.'

Ananta

Life, otherwise spirituality is all fake. If you can't bet this life, say, 'I never hear God, so what am I going to do? Nothing.' You die next time, worst case. No, accept that. Accept that. So, this satsang is for those who can take this risk. Even if they feel weak in moments, it's okay, but overall you feel in your heart that 'I'm willing to jump in.' It is not—I'll just recap for some of you who joined late—the type of spirituality which says, 'I go within so that my without is helped. I go to God, I find myself as awareness, so that my feelings are better, my thoughts are more peaceful, and my life is better, my relationships are harmonious, the world becomes a better place.' That is all false spirituality.

Ananta

In the spiritual marketing, we've done a great disservice to spirituality by making it about leading a stress-free life. What do you mean? God for that? Go to a therapist or something. This is not—God is not for you to have a stressful... too much. But I said this before: What is spirituality? Is it for God or for you? That will keep us straight. If spirituality is for God, then we've had examples which have shown us how it is for God. We had a Ram who went and lived in the jungle and did all of that, sacrificed the kingdom for God. We had a Krishna who came and wanted to be murdered by his own uncle. We had a Jesus who went up on the cross. Nobody told them spirituality is about stress-free living. It is not that. It is not so that you can win; it is so that you can completely lose.

Ananta

So that you can completely lose and some room can be created for God. Because like Rahim Ji said, the lane is too narrow. If there is me, then there cannot be God; and if there is God, then there cannot be me. They're not a nice commingling—a little bit me, a little bit God. Gone. He said very clear. Guru Nanak Ji has said very clearly: You may think and think and think, you can't do it. You may sit in meditation for hours, you may immerse yourself in love, you may try to make yourself content with worldly things, you may apply all your tactics. You know, you talked about tactics; you may apply all your tactics. What is it? CRP? You should be too old, yeah. You may do, but none of that will help you then. So how will I come to the truth? How will I find? How will the truth be unveiled to me? How will the veil be removed? To live in God's will is the only way to do it.

Ananta

So there cannot be God's will and my will, and there can be no individual without individual will. So if you have to make room for God in this lane which is so narrow, then this individual will has to go. So your intuitive insight will help you be free from this individualism, not expand on your spiritual ego. It's quite straightforward now that you are aware of your presence. It's quite straightforward now. But many times I've seen that in all of this, we managed to take the ego as a co-passenger and see, 'I'm getting this, I'm really getting this now. Now that I see that I'm awareness, how should I live my life?' You've heard these questions over the years. 'Now that I'm awareness, how should I live my life? What should I do? Can I start sharing satsang? Can I have the best relationships?' Nothing to do with any of that.

Ananta

So it's important to first realize what true spirituality is. Most of the world, even those who consider themselves spiritual seekers, are focused on a self-serving, lip-service, armchair spirituality where God is meant to help them. Even we come to spirituality because 'God helped me.' God doesn't want to help the false one. So how should spirituality help us? First, I have to get rid of the me. We're all same. And then how will that help me? Will I become peaceful? And will my relationships become happier? Will my energetic system get all sorted? Will Kundalini Ma bless me? Will all of that happen? So this is just a devious way to try and exploit God. We try to do it through effort and worldly action and things like that. I think, 'No, no, all that stuff is difficult. I've heard it is possible to be peaceful, you see, if I get God.' So how can I make my life into a God-assisted life? And who wouldn't want that? I have a genie called God. I get into the inquiry, I say, 'Who am I? Who am I? Who am I?' God is here. Peaceful life. Tada!

Seeker

This is the kind of spirituality most of us are stuck in. Most spiritual seekers are stuck while fully understanding that that ego can be very transactional or commercial at times. But I just feel sometimes, Father, asking God for help also leads one on the path of devotion. It can also, right?

Ananta

Asking God for help is exactly what I'm showing you how to do. So that is not the opposite of what I'm saying. Following what you want to do and wanting God to be a servant to you is the opposite of what I'm asking you to do. You see, asking God for help so that His will be done. Asking God for help so that His will be done. Asking God's help so that my will be done? So is spirituality a way of getting the highest being in the universe as our servant? You see? So this is the trouble with... yeah, I just wrote a note about this, that what happens when we choose what to do and then ask God for assistance. You see, when you say, 'Yes, yes, what will happen, whether it will happen or not, is God's will.' You see, whether it will happen or not is God's will. Okay, so whether it will happen or not is God's will. Who is the greater intelligence to decide what should happen? Who is the better intelligence to decide what should happen?

Ananta

If the outcome is already His will, then why is the question of what should happen not up to Him as well? This is human arrogance which we don't realize. It's so deeply ingrained that we don't realize it. So we feel like, 'Ah, yes, yes, I want to do this and like that. Please God, help me because I can't do this.' Of course you can't do this, you don't exist! But still you want, you see? Still you want. And then the non-existent one wants to use God as if God is a genie in a bottle. My prayer is how I'm rubbing the lamp and then God appeared. 'Hey, yes, what do you want?' 'Budget, I want this.' It's all selfish. It's all fake spirituality.

Ananta

So then what is true spirituality? You follow the will of God unwaveringly in terms of what, how, when, whether. All of these questions. What should happen? God's will. When should it happen? God's will. Whether it will happen or not? God's will. How will it unfold? God's will. That is the life of true surrender. What do we usually do? You say, 'I want this. I want enlightenment. Oh, now I surrender it. But I'm watching you. I surrendered to you three years ago, still I'm not enlightened.' We may not report exactly like this, but that's what I hear many times. And when I read between the lines of your report, that's what I mean. 'I surrendered so long, but still you haven't done the job, God. You've been sleeping on the job. I have read my news, I have paid my dues, I have surrendered, I prayed to you, I did inquiry. Look at me, still!'

Ananta

Isn't that where frustration and anger comes from? Isn't it? Whatever we are doing, our spiritual tantrums come from there, that 'I have the right to you, but you are not helping me.' You have no right. So if you're not helping me, I'm going. So Father's not helping, go to the satsang, won't help, then you'll have to find God. So is spirituality about you? Worldly life was about you, yes. Material life was about you. No, is spirituality about you? No. If truly that 'no' comes truly, then it's like that. If it is 'no' but still you see, then the journey seems to perpetuate. After 'I am' is all nonsense. After 'I am' is all nonsense. How much nonsense do you indulge in? No, you don't indulge in anything from now on. I have your WhatsApp.

Ananta

That is when all the trouble starts. This is where the story begins. The narrative of the ego begins from there. But 'I am' as being, this Consciousness, God's presence, Atma, whatever you call it, can take care of your life in this world. But I want to repeat that often because then that becomes an expectation of 'I am' something itself to use 'I am' in that way. So I'm asking you all for one thing: This is not the feel-good, self-help spirituality. If you can bet your life on God in this life, then come here. Yeah, if you can bet your life and everything that happens in it on God, then this is the satsang for you. But if you want God and me, and if you want a relationship with God, if you want to dance with God, if you want freedom so that God can help you, that's not what this kind of satsang is for.

Ananta

No risk, no fear, no armchair spirituality, no lip-service spirituality. No in satsang so holy, holy; outside satsang, they immediately after going, all back to 'me.' Meaning, at what cost you want God? Very good. Till you are not willing to cut off your own head at God's feet, not entitled. And I'm not talking about the head of this body; nobody wants that, it's not of any value. Your mind—become headless. Become conceptually empty so that you can set the dinner table for more, make a hospitable home for God to enter. But even after that, if God enters or not is not up to you. So it's not a quid pro quo. Cannot say, 'Hey, but I'm fully empty, I waited for you.' Can't do it.

Ananta

Say that you're not empty. Yes, but these are the devious tricks in which the mind works. Even behind hope, it is hiding. Ultimately, hopeless life will be done. My will be done. I hope ultimately that my will will be done. So I want like a bunch of complete losers. Complete loser. If you can't be complete losers... because I am number one loser. So unless you're complete losers, you cannot follow a loser servant like me. If you're not willing to lose it all, if you still have some safety nets just in case all this talk of God is just thrown... we must have something in our back pocket. Out of maybe thousands of millions of lives, one life you give to God. It's okay for you. It is nothing but a dream at all costs.

Ananta

What is the worst-case scenario? You came to this silly satsang and one stupid guy called Ananta is fooling all of you and you'll end up wasting your life following his pointing. Okay, one life you bet. That's the worst case, no? Those are the con men and they're sitting here in the garb of talking about God. He's actually saying, 'Give it all up, give it all up.' And one day he will give you his bank account number saying, 'Here, you gave it all up, transfer it to them.' That's the worst case. I don't know what will happen. What will happen, you see? So that's the bet you have to take. Because all of you, as one or two new brothers and sisters, so most of you have done enough due diligence. You've done enough due diligence. Now bet. Now is your time to bet it off. Because if you cannot bet tomorrow, if you still are saving something, you have hacked your bet in some way and you're not prepared the feast for God enough.

Ananta

Just like a conversation we are having, instruction that they are housing, but God is here. God is here as your very presence. God is here and we can still keep saying, 'But you know what happens, I'm not sure what should I do.' A good God is here. How can that compare with the meager offerings and proposals of truths which your mind is making? Because somewhere we must still be feeling that, 'Nah, this is not it.' If the highest being in the universe showed up in front of you right now, would you not leave your mind? So as your very presence, as your Atma, it is apparent to you, palpable to you because of your being in satsang. So what is the doubt? 'This may not be it, this may be a hallucination.' Is that it? What is... how can we still go back in time and say, 'But yeah, I've had also three weeks ago I had, or three years ago I had an experience of God.' God is here now. Fresh God, not from the past, not from narrative. And still we say, 'Ah, yes, yes.' But this is the Arjuna problem, this is the Arjuna conundrum. The Lord is standing in front of him, you see? The Lord is standing in front of him as his best friend and Guru. Anything but, but, but. 'Show me, show me, give me a mind-blowing experience, then I can just follow you.' Did he follow? No. He was not free even after the Virata because those who doubt...

Ananta

I had, or three years ago I had, an experience of God. God is here now, fresh God, not from the past, not from narrative. And still we say, 'Ah, yes, yes.' But this is the Arjuna problem, this is the Arjuna conundrum. The Lord is standing in front of him, you see? The Lord is standing in front of him as his best friend and Guru, anything but, but, but... 'Show me, show me, give me a mind-blowing experience, then I can just follow you.' Did he follow? No, he was not free even after the Virata, because those who doubt will find more and more reason to doubt. You could have the most amazing experience right now, but tomorrow you will doubt again. You'll doubt yourself, you'll doubt the teaching, you'll doubt the master. And this doubt comes from your sense of self-preservation, which is not true self-preservation but egoic preservation. Thank you.

Ananta

So if you come to satsang, then bet your life. So then the hearing, this silence from your heart, his guidance will not scare you because you've given up your life anyway. You say, 'I need guidance, God, Father, Guruji, whatever you say.' All of you, most of you at least, can smell your mind very well now. So you recognize the blabbering of the mind and you let it go. If you find silence, which many of you will initially, what's the problem? That God is not operating on your timeline. God is not Domino's Pizza. That's the problem. 'I turn to God, look at God, not even answering me. I'm gonna throw a full-on tantrum.' You have no right to. You had no contract with God. All of this is God in his mercy, God in his love. Just like the universe, like the great physicist said, the universe has no obligation to make sense of you for you. The same way, God has no obligation to make sense to you. You cannot use God like a cheat code in a game. I tried every single tactic, now you run out of moves, so enter God mode.

Ananta

If truth was an offer, God was an offer, freedom was an offer here, and it was up to you who got it first, who would you pick? And that's why I said I don't want winners here, I want losers. Can you truly say that if I am the last one in this room to get freedom, let me be the last one? Let my brothers and sisters get it first. Who can say that? That is the opposite of what the ego wants. Because I've noticed this over eleven years of sharing, that as long as nobody is getting it, everybody is absolutely fine. We once used to be getting it, and whether that it may be anything at all, even a spiritual experience, you see? Then if you like, 'Oh, that one should be me. Why is it not me?' And then not only that, when we are in that delusion that we have got it, then we want to be the only one to get it. No, all the rest, they are just peeking in, you're just peeking in, and the only one who is true is like that.

Ananta

So in the egolessness, can you say, 'Let all the seven billion brothers and sisters in this world go first. I will wait. All the foolish ones, all the wicked ones, all the ones who are atheistic, everyone go to God first. I'm happy to be last.' Right? But okay, very good. But as nobody has, nobody... you eat over you to go to God, but they step on you and go. Yes, this is the antidote to the egoic preservation. Yes, if you're this doormat, yes, and you are completely in the lap, of course, yes. But suppose that no, if you were not, you had to wait your turn, no reassurance. So in this world, what has happened is that that which was completely self-sacrificing nature has become completely self-serving nature. So although spirituality seemingly may be getting more popular, it's not the real spirituality. It's just 'me, me' on God steroids. 'I am doing better, I'm doing better.' I had to date here. Spirituality means death of ego, individuality. The idea is not to make you better. The idea is to squeeze the hell out of you.

Ananta

How many of you feel that the intuitive insight is very obvious now? Because it's easier for all of you then. And don't worry, I'm not keeping score of who put their hands up or not. But you cannot fool yourself with the mind. If you yourself as aware, awareness is apparent to you. When you live in the apparency of this self-knowledge, you are not fooling yourself. Or when God's presence is palpable to you, it cannot be the mind which is getting you this, you see? Only intuitively you have this. Okay, just I get this, and some of you are not fully with me, so let me just quickly do a recap of that.

Ananta

God is not a discovery that you will have through objective means, through senses, for anything that you perceive. God is also not a discovery that you will have through thinking about it. Not the greatest thought. You may keep saying 'Brahman,' at best it's a reminder, it's a pointer. Then how is the discovery of God going to happen? Because without the tools of thinking and perception, what do you have? What other mode of knowledge do you have? We all do. We love our parents, we love our children. How do you know you love your children? Even if on the surface, usually I see the feeling, I have a feeling I love my children, you see? But on the surface, many times anger is there for your children, frustration is there with their children, and yet do you love your children? Yes. How do you know? If you're in a relationship, how do you know you love your partner? Because on the face of it, you could be very angry with your partner and then you... but truly you love them. How do you know? It is not about the perception of a feeling. It is a deeper knowing.

Ananta

So where you know love, you also know God, you also know truth. So when I ask you, 'Are you aware now?' you do not see this awareness here. You know it. It is impossible to see, it is impossible to perceive. When I ask you, 'Can you stop being?' you may say, 'No, I can't stop.' I say, 'How do you know?' You say, 'I can see the presence, I perceive the presence,' you see? Then I ask you, 'Does this presence have a boundary?' I'm going fast, okay, so keep up and stop me if it is going too far. But does this presence have a boundary? You say, 'No, it doesn't have a boundary.' It is impossible for you to perceive that which is boundless. So you're relying on something more than perception. Every question Guruji asked in the invitation, you only answer intuitively. You cannot answer it perceptually or conceptually. You can only answer it intuitively.

Ananta

So the truth is known to you here, but it is not known to you here or here. The reality of you yourself as the pure witnessing, because the witnessing itself can never be perceived, is known to you intuitively. Self-knowledge is intuitive. I am only intuitive. What is the mind-based version of this? It'll make some dark empty space for awareness, like a dark empty room. If the Self was a dark empty room, then you just shut the lights, forget all the satsang stuff, just put you in those sensory deprivation chambers, find out who is aware of the blindfolds. It is you. On what basis do you call that which you do not perceive to be you? For everything in the world you want evidence. For everything in the world you want evidence. If I say a Loch Ness Monster is walking on Airport Road, you saw? Did you see? No, no. See, it's all then absurd till you have evidence, perceptual evidence, conceptual evidence. At least did somebody credible tell you? If I say, 'No, no, I do not see, but 200 people who were on Airport Road, they came and told me,' yeah, so there was kind of... there's enough credibility in that narrative, you see? So everything we demand is evidence, and yet we say, 'I am, I am aware,' to that which we do not see. Who is this 'I'? We don't see it, you see?

Ananta

So the discovery is this: without evidence, it is apparent. Thinking, they don't find it, but they find it every moment, hidden in plain sight. 'I've been looking for awareness all my life.' How do you know you've been looking? 'I'm aware I've been looking.' So this 'I' which is unperceivable is apparent. To bring this into a cognition which is always actually known, you see, but hardly ever consciously known like this, is called awakening or intuitive insight, whatever fancy terms you want to use. It is this. But you cannot do it with your head and you cannot do it through any senses. So your being intuitive is the Self inside, Atma Gyan apparent to you now. Try to lose it. And there's only one way where it seems to go: only under the hypnosis of belief in a thought does it seem to go. I have emphasis on 'seem to,' but that is an important 'seem to.' So only under the hypnosis of identification with the thought does the apparency of self-knowledge seem to be lost. Therefore, whenever you are without the ignorance of avidya, of thought, you're in self-knowledge and it is apparent to you. It is not a new attainment; it has always been there.

Ananta

This part is... so this was a quick recap. This is now clear to most of us. Some of you are new, of course it will sound like a jumble of words. Take a few sessions to defrost all of that. But really, for those who've heard me for a few years, this must become straight, straight. No? Yes. So now you have such a great gift because only in intuition is the Self apparent. So live as the Self is apparent. That is how to live in faith. So you're being intuitive, you see? So what is it to live in faith? 'Let not my will but Thy will be done.' That is to live in faith, you see? How do we know what is Thy will? How do we know what is God's will? So what I'm sharing with you is how the bird flies. I mean, it is bhakti. So it's a double flying if it is only one way. So now Atma Gyan is apparent to you, bhakti is easier because the mind cannot confuse you about what God's will is.

Ananta

How do you know what is God's will in the intuitive living, headless living? What is unfolding is God's will. And still if you need guidance—'Oh, I need to book tickets, I need to fly overseas, should I or not? I don't know what the answer is'—and you feel like, 'I have to have an answer,' you see, because I can't tell my travel agent, 'I'm living in God's light.' You can't, you're scared of looking stupid. So okay, so suppose you can't tell your travel agent that I'm waiting for God to play the next move. I need an answer. Then you allow your presence to guide you with an answer. But remember that you're not entitled to an answer because you went to God. It's not dialogue or service. 'I just went to God and then now God is so happy you came here, here, do this.' Sometimes it will feel like our faith is getting tested, our patience is getting squeezed, but trust that silence is the answer from God for the moment. If the guidance appears, then follow it unreasonably.

Ananta

So life is actually then very simple and built on a strong foundation, not on a mind foundation. Guruji says, 'I don't know anything at all,' and yet his life is lived on the best foundation, you see? We have taken the basis of knowing to build our foundation instead of God, you see? So now we are letting go of the meek foundation of the head, of the weak foundation of the head, and living in the true foundation of the heart. So it's clear you're intuitive when your Self is apparent to you. As you're being intuitive in the light of this Guru presence called intuition, in the light of God's light, allow everything to act directly from this, unimpeded by your mental intervention. Allow it to unfold. Just like the sharing of satsang. I keep saying sharing of satsang, not so that I can tell you, 'Look at me, I'm special,' just to tell you that it is possible for all this action to happen without mental intervention. You come for the version of that heart-to-mouth unfolding because it becomes an example for you to follow. So if all these words, without a script, without any planning, without anything, unfold here just from the heart, then our tickets can be booked, our life can be run, but not on the basis of what we want. Do it on the basis of what God wants. So this is the coming together of Atma Gyan and bhakti, self-knowledge and devotion. But if you say, 'My will,' if you want to become... because of intuitive insight, you want to have oneness with God instead of first being a follower, being obedient to God, then that is the room for the spiritual ego to flower in. If inside you lose humility, then you're going there. Humility and insight, both are important.

Ananta

Our life can be run, but not on the basis of what we want. Do it on the basis of what God wants. So this is the coming together of Atma Gyan and Bhakti—self-knowledge and devotion. But if you say 'my will,' if you want to become because of intuitive insight, you want to have oneness with God instead of first being a follower, being obedient to God, then that is the room for the spiritual ego to flower in. If inside you lose humility, then you're going there. Humility and insight both are important. Service to God leads to oneness, but without the expectation of oneness with God.

Ananta

So for years I've been saying live open and empty, and this is now the further words that are arising to tell you what that open and empty actually is like. The intuitive insight is apparent and God's will is being followed. That is the way of the heart. It's a completely different way of life. Completely different way of life internally. Externally maybe same job, same house, same relationship, same everything maybe, but inwardly let's switch over. Unrecognizable from mental oppression to living with the heart. Not a life full of anxiety about future, regret about past. Built on the strong foundation of your heart. Fearless because you've already sacrificed your life to God. Here you can build your true house, not on the made-up area in spirituality.

Seeker

You were talking about being humble or humility. I just felt to share that, you know, when you were talking about the feverishness of wanting to be the only one and, like, if no one else is getting it then everyone's okay. I really heard that today and I see that behavior here that that's happened before. I just wanted to say it.

Ananta

Very, very good. So all this is so that you bring this into your own life because these are blind spots in which the ego can live for lifetimes. You change the whole meaning of spirituality in the world. Instead of wanting to serve God, we want God to assist us. So really one phrase which is my one of my favorites is: Do you want a God-dictated life or do you want a God-assisted life? The ego hates the notion of a dictated life. Hates it. Obedience, follow God's will—it means order. Follow the orders. In a colloquial way, follow God's will can seem so stifling to the ego. But that is the way of the head actually; it has us in its grip. The mind is the first port of call.

Ananta

Now what's happening? What's happening right now? Whatever it makes that narrative, tells you on the narrative of what's happening right now, then you're fertile for them. It may be selling to some of you, 'Yeah, but I'm not getting any of this. I'm not getting any of this.' So if you take that to be true, then I can tell you the further story: 'Oh, I am not ready for this kind of thing. Oh, I'm very unworthy.' All the narrative based on a representation of what is true now. You see, you have to start a story with 'Once upon a time.' This is going to have a story by saying, 'John then did this.' So the mind first proposes a notion of what is true, but you have no idea what is true right now. Like, what is this? What's happening here? No idea.

Ananta

So that is the first point of coming back to an innocence. You see, you may say, 'Oh, this is a satsang happening, Ananta is sitting and talking to disciples.' You don't really know me and you've not captured this moment. One moment—this is the beauty of this light. Where's the temperature of the room? Where is the expression on all the children's faces? What have you captured from this moment? Nothing. Very bad carbon copy. For all you kids who don't know what carbon copy is, it's like a very bad photocopy. And then what happens? We take these bad photocopies and we make our story. So if I tell you, 'Tell me about you,' hundreds of these: 'This happened to me when I was a child and this happened to me then they said...' One moment we cannot capture in the mind, but we have our full story ready and we live as if that story is true about us. That is to live in the way of the head, to live in the storybook version of life instead of ever truly experiencing life. Your story has nothing to do with your lives.

Ananta

Not even that. Even there. So a new order living. So don't rely on narratives; rely on your heart. Rely on God's presence. That is the only true intelligence you have now. Conceptual narratives are just storybook ideas we have about ourselves and that's why nobody ever agrees on those narratives. No, you say this is one, no, no, we are the owner, no not like that. Like the whole conflict is based on that, trying to get concurrence and narrative. So then those who agree with the narrative we say, 'Ah yes, I like you.' Then we surround ourselves with those who... nobody fully agrees but sort of on the same page, you see. So then that becomes our echo chamber. You see, so the ego then uses its confirmation bias to convince itself it is so right, you see, because all these people around. And now with the era of social media you can pick, 'I like this,' so then you feel like, 'Oh yes, everything is confirming me.'

Ananta

So it used to happen a lot earlier. Now I don't give anybody a chance to speak so that doesn't happen, but earlier when people would come they would just come for confirmation. They just come and I also noticed, I also noticed, so when I see somebody is really starting to nod and then inevitably they'll say, 'Exactly Father, exactly, exactly what I was thinking today.' So you already thought that, why you need to hear it? Hear something fresh. No, but that is a need to be right, a need for confirmation bias, you see. So if you are thinking that already, by hearing that is not helping you. Hear something different.

Ananta

So step out of that. Allow yourselves to value opposites equally. You can allow yourself to value opposites equally or don't value either, then you're not mind-controlled. Yeah, and that's how you will solve all these koans. But if you think you're right and start everything from how right you are... so I have told you all how to live in the way of the heart which is what, through my Master's grace, I have discovered in this life. I remember how it is to live in the way of the head. Even a minute of that life seems like such an oppressed kind of life with mind judgments and the mind's motivations and the mind's doership rules everything. 'Do this, this is right, this is wrong, don't do that, this person is so good, this person so bad.' To live in that kind of war zone, I would not want to wish that upon my enemy. So if you want to follow this way of the heart, then really you cannot do it unless you're willing to bet this life, take a risk. Spiritual is when you're living in God's light, in God's presence. That is only spirituality. Good, good. Thank you.

Seeker

Is it the same as saying that's what one said, everything is destined and comfort me and try whatever is to happen and not to happen will not happen or what may you try it?

Ananta

Yes, at some level, but not really. Not really. Firstly, I feel like things like Karma, predestination, all of these things are very limited human attempts to understand the ways of God because they are so beyond sense-making. So we try to apply some intellectual understanding to say, 'Okay, why do apparently bad things happen to good people? What is the intelligence with which all of this is functioning?' You see, it's better to realize that we don't have the capacity to fathom this. To understand that this is the same way that we would not expect the plant to understand—that's a better metaphor.

Ananta

So in the same way we cannot understand pre-determination and anyway, sort of, is very, very limiting for God in the sense that it's like, 'Oh, God has written out a script and then God has to follow that script.' You see, it's not really like this because it leaves very little room for Grace. It leaves very little room for miraculous intervention. So God is completely beyond this time and space and yet completely free to play with this time and space like a piece of clay in His hands, Her hands. So better to admit that we don't know what any of this is. We cannot meet this in a linear fashion. We can only meet it in the intersection of that which is in time and the Timeless.

Ananta

You see, you can only meet it in this intersection which is this very moment. Like this very moment I can know the heart of God, because my heart and His heart are the same. For all of you, your presence and God's presence are the same. Your heart and God's heart are the same in this moment. The minute you put a linear structure which is temporal or spatial, then that intersection we've stepped away from. And they both are unfathomable and God's ways are unfathomable the minute we insert ourselves in time and space. So in this existence, the only way to meet the Eternal is in the intersection. And all our sense-making which is about God in the temporal or in the spatial is very timid sort of attempts to try to put all of this in some structure.

Ananta

So then it is both very reassuring and completely unnerving to realize that I fully can know everything about everything in the instant of self-knowledge, because as I know myself intuitively, no knowledge in time and space is alien to me. And yet when I move out of that moment of insight, which can happen only right now, then everything else is this storybook. It has no way to capture any reality. So that is why I keep saying, what is the point of this now? Because right now that intersection is happening. Right now the time-full is meeting the Timeless. That is the only way where you can... if they are perpendicular rivers flowing, at this point of intersection you can see the waters from God's heart. If you need to put it into a conceptual structure, then it becomes, you know, in the intellectual and mental research.

Ananta

So is this all predetermined or is God bringing it moment by moment? Okay, there's no way we can answer this question except through heart knowledge which is apparent now. Is Karma true or is it just a way to make ourselves feel good, believe the fairness of the system? There's no way you can answer this question with make-believe concepts because what you meet in this moment shows you that linear perception of Karma—which means that when my life this happened and this happened then this happened, therefore then this should happen and all that—is all nonsense. Because every single thing is not just true about Consciousness in terms of space, but also in terms of time. I wonder if you can make this out.

Ananta

So what has happened means everything has happened. In which direction is our attention going? That determines what shows up in front of us in this moment. So when we say God is all there is, not just all there is like, 'Okay, there's this universe within which then God is everything in this universe.' Every single potential, every single possibility, every single thing that we can fathom is where God is and what God is. So every single possibility of what the past could have been, what the present is, and what the future will be is already part of God. We make a linearity out of that through our attention being a perceptual means of knowledge, you see, and our conceptual narrative saying this is what happened to us in our life. But God is truly the be-all and end-all, you see. So everything that we can fathom is the reality of God.

Ananta

I am going to go bonkers, shut up. So we can have these ideas which are very timid in front of God's light as, 'Oh, that must have happened because I must have done something in my past life.' No, maybe it happened because you were meant to do something in the future. Like all of you can't really say, it's all very, very timid attempts. So that's why I take my advice and meet the highest knowledge in the intersection between the time-full and the Timeless, which is your intuitive insight. Whether unreality of time and space, where you will see then that they are just notions, and then we will not feel the need to structure life in these...

Ananta

Maybe it happened because you were meant to do something in the future. Like all of you, you can't really say. It's all very, very timid attempts. So that's why I take my advice and meet the highest knowledge in the intersection between the time-full and the timeless, which is your intuitive insight. Within the unreality of time and space, you will see that they are just notions. And then we will not feel the need to structure life in these intellectual structures. We can come to supreme humility, which helps us in this way. Because sometimes our arrogance—as humanity, we have this arrogance that we can understand. But we never try to explain it to our pets. What is that about? We feel like we have been blessed with an intellect. And that's why we did this experiment: Can you fathom what this moment is? What is this? You don't have any idea. See, it's not possible in this world through worldly means to meet something which is out of this world. Just like it's not possible within this entirety of Maya to use the tools within Maya to step out of Maya. Everything within Maya is meant to perpetuate Maya.

Ananta

So it's only that the Designer, in His grace, created these alarm clocks and these emergency slots which appear in the form of Masters, who then are a window into that intersection because their heart is connected to the timeless and they allow their functioning in a way to happen from there. You see? So therefore, the presence of the Master is very valuable because without that, there is no escape route to be found. Everything we find in Maya only leads to more Maya. And this is to move from Maya. So thank you. That's why we have all of them up on the walls, because they were the bridge. They take us on this impossible journey. Like almost like a TARDIS, you know, some of you Doctor Who fans. Almost you get into the TARDIS and you will go anywhere. In the same way, the forms of the Guru appear because we are not yet ready for our intuitive insight. So they have to appear in a way within the realm of Maya, but to pull us out of Maya. Such a beautiful gift. Otherwise, everything else is... that's the whole idea. You follow what I'm saying today? What? Okay.

Ananta

In God's grace, the forms of the Master show up for us. But Consciousness plays in this way, you see, that the aspect of Consciousness which seems to be following has to do it for themselves. So if I... sometimes it's so frustrating for many of you. How many of you have cried in satsang? 'Why is it not happening? When will it happen?' or 'I thought I had it.' And of course, the parental love in me says, 'Let me just do it for everyone.' But I can't do it. Consciousness is not designed in that way. So Consciousness has to do it in that aspect of Consciousness. You have to slip out, flip out of the head into the heart. As much as I would like to, I cannot do it for you. And even for you, in a way, I'm doing it, and yet you have to do it. It's like a locker which needs two keys to open. I'm helping you, but you have to surrender fully. You have to submit.

Ananta

You know, some of you know I shared this story before once or twice, where a devotee was sitting in front of Guruji and they were just playing. So Guruji was throwing some grapes and the game was, you know, you open your mouth for the thing. And the grape came here and he didn't do this. So Guruji was like, 'No, no, it has to go exactly.' So he said, 'No, that much you have to do.' I'm going to take everything, and he says that you have to do it. You have to live it as well. Yeah, God is not going to do everything for you. So many times I also heard, 'I can't do it, you have to do it for me.' No, you do. You have to do it. The submission of your individual will at God's feet has to be done by you. That is the design of Consciousness. So although it may be your will to say, 'No, no, I can't do it, you do it,' God doesn't want that.

Seeker

Why am I finding this escape between the two here? Yeah, that's all complete nothing. Because it is complete not. I almost left Sahaja with the idea in my head that I'm just going to think. Yeah, that is... he said he can't be shocked, so I'm thankful for that. He kept me there. Now I'm here and I'm thinking, 'Oh, when are you receiving me back in Sahaja?' I'm not thinking right now, but there is... and I honestly... so I come from a house, I just want to tell you, nobody cares. When... as harsh as that may sound, nobody cares. 'I'm doing this, I'm thinking this, I want to do this, I'm so confused.' Nobody cares. At least then I don't give myself a chance to surrender at your feet. Nobody cares about yourself surrender.

Ananta

So nobody cares. Exactly. This 'me, me' will not stop till you don't realize that though nobody cares about the first one. 'I did this, I have to pick which is... am I in the wrong way? Am I in the right way?' Nobody cares. No, nobody can. How much value do you think I give to your thoughts? None. I hope. Exactly. You will not come here if I value your thoughts. Nobody cares about these games and these narratives. Either you surrender or you do. That's why if you don't spot the slipperiness of this ego with this mind so far, this is showing you this is your chance to be fully empty. But you are thinking, 'Oh, now am I doing the right thing?' You're missing out of this because you think you're solving an important problem. It's worthless, pointless. God is waiting and you're solving problems.

Ananta

We may hear this because it's coming from me. A beautiful friend told us like that: 'I don't like you because you are not confirming my belief system.' They surround ourselves with people that we can get concurrence on our faults. Now, it is for one moment of life you cannot decipher, and we want to decide who is our true Master. We cannot pick between two apples, which is better and which is worse, but we want to decide, 'Who is my really... am I doing the right or the wrong thing?' With what will you decide? What power do you have? Your intellectual design? And it will want to run. That's all. What can we say? And in this false decision-making, you're missing both. What does God want right now? You will maybe try and understand it is God's will. Don't move till you have this answer in life. Don't move till you have this answer. Or allow everything to unfold organically through the presence directly. Or if you have a sense of what I'm saying with that, at least those who followed for some time, those ones, you can keep asking whatever is confusing. Allow it to unfold directly in God's light without mental contamination. Or wait for the guidance to be apparent. But don't go running to the mind. All right? Is it audible at the back?

Ananta

So spirituality is really nothing but getting over yourselves. You just get over yourself. In the design of this Maya, it may seem like you are the center of this universe. But that 'you' which is truly the center of this universe is not this person. And the best, best thing we can do with the person is to surrender it at God's feet. That's the one job. Otherwise, this infection is not going to get cured. A little different from the broadcast, actually. My expression has changed also in the last few months. Who is spirituality for? And how come our questions are about 'me'? So that the 'me' again gets burnt in that. That is my true, maybe my only use as a Master. If I just give the 'me' more oxygen, I'm not really doing my job.

Ananta

Something beautiful I've been saying that I read from God, where He's saying to love is to bring our brothers or sisters to God. To love is to love. But we also sometimes have to accept that in return for our love, we will be hated. It's okay. That's okay. And we shy away from the love of pointing to reality because we are scared of the hate that may come from... 'I don't want to embarrass, discomfort.' It's okay.

Seeker

The new challenge. But Father, I feel one thing you said today, that like you said, your expression has changed in the past few months, which I also find, Father. Like for example, these days you're not even talking so much about awareness, Consciousness, just talking about God. Yeah, that is one. And also you're very like chopping all other kinds of spirituality and just this one. I'm not giving any credence to the non-existent self. So I feel these three points have become the centerfold of your expression. I feel like the insight seems so palpable for most of you where initially when I would say, 'Are you aware now? How do you know?' those questions were very frustrating to all of you. You said, 'I don't know, tell us.' You know, all of these things. Now it seems most of you don't have any difficulty or resistance to just looking that directly. You see that directly, non-perceptually. So that itself is a great blessing. But I see your hiding points now are behind like Advaita itself, behind the words of spirituality itself. So that also needs some.

Seeker

I feel like the expression changes along with the tempo of the sangha also. Then go to God and Jesus, we didn't care because I just brought a lot of fire with the expression. But we are always on fire because I think that okay, since he was sitting in here, yeah, it became very comfortable for each other. So I'm just feeling like something is here, but I don't have the words here. And then now you're setting the whole house on fire. Yeah, next level. Like last Monday's... after last Monday's satsang, like I realized how much I was hiding behind some apparently... but I think... but still identity thoughts correctly. And you said, 'Kill that,' you know, like every time it wrote 'non-existent self.' Yeah, I remember I would just watch the whole.

Seeker

And also, Father, one more thing which I realized, which I just reported to, is that in fact most of the time or all the time... so it's... I've been more living from the heart only, but the head would take, you know, it would create its ploy and it would make stories saying, 'No, you're not,' like you know. That used to create some confusion. But then I realized, no, actually I've been doing more in the heart only. I mean, I don't know. And I feel every satsang there is so much of cleansing that happens. After every session, certain thought patterns might just get automatically delivered without having to resolve. Surrender yourself, just gone. And first you said that, 'What if everyone gets you know, but you still... you feel that you are the space, just nothing, but can you accept that?' And it was a big explosion, but it was very, very good because yeah.

Ananta

Activity, okay, okay. But it worked with such a humbleness that God wants. Because our attachment is to spirituality now. And if you end up becoming a loser in spirituality, then that is what the ego will hate the most. Because all its conditions are about spirituality. If you don't meet truth, it's okay. So then you just feel like everybody is getting it, only I am left behind. Can we accept that also as God's will? Supposed to be okay. My mind is that clingy, needy aspect, and then the intellectual check. Yes, they sort of turned it around because many times you will notice yourself that when you're like, 'I want this, I want to,' then something will come as a reminder: 'But who wants this?' So that is your intellect which has now been trained by satsang to turn the other way. Like, it's not about you. Exactly. It's not about yourself. There's like, nobody cares. Nobody cares. Yeah, yeah. And at least this sangha, we are at a point where I can say this. Okay? You can say nobody cares about you and you hear it from the heart instead of like, 'Oh, you still will have a tinge.'

Seeker

That tinge is important to burn. See, like it's not a tinge. I care so much rubbish to your Father. This is not very compassionate. Forever and ever. Don't take it back, please. Never. No, no, you're taking it back. The story is in his book that there was a king who was the first person... some things to come in between and they all said, 'Oh, okay, thank you.' So everyone can hear me? He's a king who called five thousand sages. Nice. And he said, 'I want the enlightenment by the time I mount this horse.' They give you...

Ananta

Burn. See, like it's not a change. I carry so much rubbish to your Father. This is not very compassionate. Forever and ever, don't take it back, please. Never. No, no, you're taking it back. Papaji was describing in his book that there was a king who was the first person... some things come in between and they all said, 'Oh, okay, thank you.' So everyone can hear me. He's a king who called five thousand sages and he said, 'I want the enlightenment by the time I mount this horse. I will give you half of my kingdom.' So much, so much. And the sages started to look to each other and thought, 'But we can't give you that. We are still working on it.' And Ashtavakra comes and says, 'I can offer that to you, but you have to give me something back.' And the king says, 'I give you my kingdom, or half of my kingdom, and this much money.' And the sage says, 'But that doesn't belong to you. You inherited it.' And he says, 'Oh, I give you my wife.' 'But that doesn't belong to you either. Give me something that belongs to you.' And then the king says, 'Oh, I give you my mind.' And the sage is happy and says, 'Yeah, that belongs to you. You can give that.'

Ananta

And the king tries to mount on the horse, and by the time a thought comes, by the time he puts his leg into the other side, he reminds himself. Then Papaji comments that the king was... the sage passed away and the king was... The burning is a part of it, not an escape. Really scared everyone. The questions have reduced to almost none, especially after Karma. Nobody cares. I'm trying to make some light conversation. This is a very good sign. Nobody cares. It's not important when I came in because of the light conversation. Yeah, because of the light conversations. I feel good.

Ananta

Is God telling you through himself? Is God telling you through my masters? No, no, not good. I have said everything. What will you be? Not what you decide, but what God decided. Guruji said, 'Everything I have said, everything what tells you what to pick cannot be at your convenience.' What is the difficulty? You can't hear God? Ah, yes. Stay in the silence. Noisy in the head sometimes? It's always noisy in there. Not always, don't worry. I thought it was all mine. Did you not hand it over? So don't take it back. I'm trying to help you. It can seem very difficult to not conclude, to not decide. Let's say this is my plan of action now. I need to inquire more. How do you know?

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.