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How Long Do You Want to Play with These Concepts? - 7th November 2017

November 7, 20178:5342 views

Saar (Essence)

Ananta challenges the identification with the personal story and the mind's concepts, guiding seekers to recognize their notionless existence as the witnessing consciousness rather than the limited, individual self.

How do you know that you are not the light of this entire universe?
If this moment was the end of all stories about your name, would you be okay with that?
I am pointing you to your notionless existence. Are you still waiting for a notion about yourself?

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egoidentificationnotionless existenceself-inquiryconsciousnessmindpersonhood

Transcript

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Ananta

It is just that our expectation of what we will return to—we feel that you will come to the Self as if the Self is also some object. Whatever object is being called, who is aware of that? What is aware of that? What is the one that witnesses all things? The one that is aware of all the states? We can state the dream state, the dreamless sleep state—is that an aware object in these states? How are you so sure about this? How are you so sure that you are this body? How are you so sure that you are the owner of just this body? How do you know that you are not the light of this entire universe? Just because this mind tells you? Is it not worthwhile to question this mind a little bit?

Ananta

Listening to the mind, what have you got? Fear about death, fear of the next moment, fear of the future. The idea that you have a start and an end. The idea that you were born, you will die—all these have been the cues from the mind. The idea that you did something wrong, the idea that you can do something right. How long you want to play with these concepts? And you're free to, you see, as long as you like. But notice the discrepancy if what you're claiming is that 'I am done with these concepts.' If you feel that you're done with these concepts, then notice that actually they have no power over you. Are you really done with the play of this name and form?

Ananta

Somebody said the other day—very nice, Krishna, if I'm not mistaken, said: 'Father, it is when we say "person," it seems to generalize.' It appeared when I asked myself, 'Am I done with the play of [Name]?' 'Am I done with the play of Krishna?' Then it becomes really—the question becomes really clear. Because just like the ego, which becomes like a very generalized concept, and most people in the world actually believe that they are not egoistic. You talk to people generally on the roads or something, you feel like you're egoistic? 'No, no, I am not egoistic. My partner, you should meet them, see, they are really proud.' Ego has been confused to be the sense of arrogance or pride. Can we ask them, 'But you consider yourself a person?' 'Of course, I'm a good person,' like that. So then, like that, ego seems to generalize a concept. They mean in this 'person' idea. Because we use it every day in Satsang, then we can say, 'Okay, that is just the person. The person comes.' See, 'I am done with the person.' Sometimes it is good to put that name in the box which we identify with the most and say, 'Have you done with that one?'

Ananta

If there was a book, a story of this one, a novel was being written, and then the novel had this very theme, and we came to Satsang today and nothing happened—would you give up on writing the novel? Are you okay with that ending, this mid-sentence? It's strong. 'I came to Satsang, it started off very nice, but he was there and...' Are you still wondering what is going to happen to this one that you consider yourself to be? Where is the hero? Where are the followers? What Satsang will emerge from your mouth? This brings our belief system into very close focus. If this moment was the end of all stories you heard about that name, would you be okay with that? Not to be seen as anything special, not to also be seen as anything terrible. Neither 'got it' nor 'did you not get it.' I am pointing you to your notionless existence.

Ananta

Are you still waiting for a notion about yourself? Are you still waiting for that 'Yes, I got it' or 'Why don't I get it?' It is neither, you see. It is still a case of the mistaken identity. The 'I'—there is no individual anywhere. It is not even your experience. It is only words—just another sensation in your being which is programmed to convince you of your limited self. Everything else is as it is. Even this ultimately is as it is, because this is the very Consciousness playing with itself. If there were no more pages in your story, you could...

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