He is Most Merciful

Your idea of heaven could be merging with the Nirguna Brahman, which is fine. Maybe which is fine too. Or to be with Krishna or to be with Devi Ma or to be with the sages like beautiful, beautiful lives. But what unfolds is only His will. Ramacharitmanas—only that is going to happen what He has said will happen. So Father, when I pray or when I am with Him, I can still seek Him. Whether He appears or not, it's up to Him, but seeking Him still has a purpose behind it. That's what I'm saying.

That's fine. Isn't that the fruit in itself? Isn't our loving Him, waiting for Him expectantly in our heart—you see, which is the deepest we can do to be in His presence—then isn't that the most auspicious life already?

So again Father, so Shabri seeking Ram is okay? Still seeking Ram, like there's a purpose behind that, that's still okay whether it happens? It's up to Him, am I—

Yes, yes. It's not just okay, it's the best. Let's put it, let's name it in a different way. Yes, maybe I'm happy I got the chance to clarify for everyone. So let me just put it another way. When will we confirm that based on this we can say that God is here? At what point will we say this is enough evidence now? I know because of this, I know God is always here. Because otherwise, that mind is chasing target, you know, goalposts keep changing. 'Oh, this happened, got taken care of, must be coincidence.' This happened: 'Oh wow, this is such grace.' After two days: 'Oh, must have been just a coincidence.' You see, everything the mind can normalize very easily.

You see, so I'm saying for at this point, what feels true? That if this was to happen, I would say that God is really, really here. So if I'm without Maya for some time, if I can be without Maya, that means I—

So deep sleep without Maya, or just absence of the 'me' in the waking state, that's also without Maya. That also you've been then, so that's—

No, that's why every day I mention this experiment. So suppose the form of God that you resonate with the most, He showed up. Then would you say now 'pukka pukka' real? Even then the mind will not agree. How to break out of this? How to break out of this? You see, like Jesus said in one of his sermons that whatever is given to us, you see, we have the propensity to doubt. He said first John came. John used to eat insects, used to eat leaves in the forest, used to not wear footwear, you see, used to just live in the most frugal, the most sadhu way, the most highest renunciate way. So then all of you said, 'But he can't be God because God could never come to Earth, which is His kingdom, and live like such a beggar.'

He said, 'Then I came. I sing and dance and drink wine with all of you and all of that. I have a nice time during this life.' You see, I'm not living like a sadhu so much. Although he did before that, but then you say, 'Now you criticize and say, but this one can't be God or a messenger of God because he lives in this way. Where is his penance? Where is his renunciation? You can't be God.' So in whichever way grace comes to us, the mind will find a way to normalize it and say, 'No, no.' You see?

Now why is he saying that? He's saying that also because all of us have had such thousands and thousands and millions of experiences of grace where, if you were to calculate the mathematical probability of that happening, it would be completely impossible. You see, and yet we have found a way to normalize and say, 'Oh.' You see? So that's why I keep asking: what has to happen? Does He have to come in the physical? And you're absolutely right that initially we may be astounded, but after fifteen minutes we start saying, 'This is a dream, is this really happening?' You see, so there's nothing really which can convince us. You see, our mind and intellect are not designed to be convinced in that way.

That's why we need to change the instrument itself and to learn to live in the new instrument of the heart. It comes only by practicing. If you were to switch from living on land to living on water where you have to swim everywhere, then it would take some practice. No? You see, in the same way, when we are switching from living in our heads—this suffering prison called the mind—to living in our hearts, we need the practice. You see, so learning to live in God's presence, learning to live in the reality of who we are, takes practice. And that practice makes us faithful.