Find the One Who Has a Single Desire About Anything at All - 30th October 2017
Saar (Essence)
Ananta emphasizes that all suffering stems from the mistaken identity of being a limited body-mind. He guides seekers to recognize their natural, infinite existence as Shiva/Consciousness, which remains untouched by phenomenal appearances and desires.
Every idea that you have believed about yourselves ultimately is offered up at the altar of the Satguru.
Unless I pick up the idea 'I am something,' suffering is an alien concept.
You are Shiva now. You cannot have a grievance unless you pick up a notion about yourself.
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Transcript
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Welcome to satsang today. What do they say? Death and taxes wait for no one. Whatever you might be defining about yourself, whatever limit you might be believing you have, is not true. No matter how big you consider yourself to be, the truth is bigger than that. No matter how much of nothing you consider yourself to be, the truth is less nothing than that nothing, because you are beyond all these attributes which we have considered ourselves to be. As I say, the Master takes everything from you. He's not interested in your phenomenal things; he's not interested in any worldly things that you could give. Every idea that you have believed about yourselves ultimately is offered up at the altar of the Satguru. Even the offerer is offered.
Over the weekend I was chatting with someone and my advice was not to make even this into a position. Even that is not something that I am doing. Empty of all notions about yourselves—you don't even have to empty them out, as naturally in this moment you are. We've been doing this over and over again in the last week or so. We saw that in this moment, what is here? What is here? What is your fundamental admission about what is here? What is the basis for everything else?
The Self is here. Our body is here. Satguru is here. What is more valuable than that? Nothing is more valuable than that. And yet the power of Maya only operates in that way where we leave the arms of the Satguru and I feel like something is more important than some limitation that you believe about yourself. It cannot be more important than your God-presence. The idea that 'I must do something' is the idea that God cannot do, or God does not know what God is doing. The idea that 'I must want it a certain way' is the idea that God does not know what I need to experience. Because if I leave it to this higher force which is running this world, I don't know what I'm going to get, and that force might mess it up.
There is a separate 'I'. Someone is having a cold and silent... silent. So as I was saying, the idea that my experience must be different from what it is, comes from where? What is desire? It is this very same idea that the content of my present experience is not enough; it must include something else so that I get a feeling of being more complete, being more whatever, being more happy. And yet when you really look, and there is this mess up right now, 'I am not happy.' This is the human condition. We have picked up conditions about our happiness and then realized that actually, to be happy is to drop these conditions. I will not find that happiness which I am looking for by picking up a new condition about how everything should be. It's just the mind trick, because what is here is beyond anything that you can imagine, and you are that now.
If you pick up the idea 'but I want to get it,' then that is also from that idea of desire. That's why I've said that all confusion, all suffering, is basically this mistaken identity. If you see this much, it is enough for today's satsang actually. But all confusion, all suffering, all grievances are really only about this false mistaken identity that I have believed myself to be, and that one is never here. So we exchange what is here naturally with an idea of who I am. 'So what should I do? What should I have?' All can come from only a mistaken idea of who I am.
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Once you find clarity about this, where will you find it? You will not find it in the future and you will not find it on the basis of any past experience. Where will you find yourself? Here and now. That here and now is not in time. How many of you have this idea that it can't be this simple? By believing the idea that it can't be this simple? Yes, I see some heads nodding. Does it be simple? Going once, twice... not so much, not so much either. Some of you are feeling shy to say, but I see that this is very pervasive.
So let me rephrase the question again. The basic idea is that if you were to look now, you would see that your existence is beyond any limits. If you were to check without any preconceived notions or anything that you have learned, or making any inferences about it right now, do you find any boundary to your existence? Any limit? Where is the body then? Because this has been the traditional idea of the boundary, isn't it? So look for this one. How is the body being experienced right now? As a set of sensations. And are these sensations contained within you? Are you contained within these sensations? Look, look. Even if you think you know the right answer, this cannot hurt you.
The sensation that you might be calling 'the body' or 'my body,' observe where it is experienced, in which space it is experienced. In the space of your existence, your being. See if that space is limited or whether the sensation is limited. You will find that it is the sensation which is limited, because in this space where this sensation is experienced, in this very same space, this voice that you are hearing is also experienced. All other perceptions, all other experiences, are happening within this very being. Now see if you can find the one who wants anything at all. Don't presume it, don't judge it. See if you can find it. Find the one who has a single desire about anything at all. Then find, find... because it doesn't exist. You don't have to believe anything here, just check for yourself.
And it seems like the construct of the body and the collected thoughts... like that construct is the one that's having...
Yes, because the theoretical construct... so a theoretical construct cannot have a desire. See what I'm saying? Okay, let me explain. So she says that it seems like the construct of the body and the construct of these thoughts has a particular desire. And sometimes we use these words in satsang, that the 'body-mind' is the one that desires it. But what is body-mind? A set of sensations and some visual thoughts also, another set of sensations, energy constructs. If you do not have the notion that there is a collective... suppose that you did not even have the notion of the body. If the sensation is there right now, some sensation will be there, yes? And suppose you did not have the notion of mind. Some thoughts come and go. Now what happens?
So I'm saying we don't create any notion of body or mind. There is a set of sensations, and sensation includes that which we call thoughts; they are coming and going. The sensations—does it ever create a tangible entity or the person? What is it that has a desire?
So there's no tangible entity, but it seems like it this way.
Yes, this body-mind performing its activities in the particular circumstance, let's say. So this body-mind construct is projecting the desires. It is consciousness's belief that 'I am addicted to this body-mind' that makes it yours, because you are this consciousness believing itself to be limited in some way as the body-mind. But actually, for you, what is the true position of the body and the mind? Just appearances. So if it is clear that they are appearances and I am the unchanging one, now what does it mean by resistance? And can that desire seem valid from your true position? It's only when we consider ourselves to be limited in some way, contained in the body-mind, then can a desire make sense. Never a desire. Still, the play has to go on, but the joy about it being a play... you cannot truly call it a play unless we see that I am unhurt in this play.
You know, it reminded me... when I started sharing some satsang, this young child used to come to satsang and then she asked a question and I said something and she said, 'Are you sure this is right?' I found really no sense about this. It never happened to me, even though I just started chatting recently. There was no... Now, if pain is there and it is left unsupported by interpretation or any resistance, like the idea that it should not be there, how much space within you is it taking? Even this very large pain which consumes a lot, right now in this situation, can you actually check how much of this space is it taking? Just look at it. Don't be in denial of the pain; accept it, allow it. See if you can find its actual strength. Just the pain by itself, only an appearance. And that where it is appearing, the screen of that appearance, how much bigger is it than the pain? What are the limits of that?
So suppose pain is exquisite pain is experienced in the heart, the physical or the emotional heart. But either physical or emotional is contained within this space of consciousness. Finding this, what are the limits of this space? If you want to be reckless and say, 'Even if more came, this pain, how much more has to come to overwhelm this space?' You run out of space twice. If it was there, pain here... two friends are there together in the playground. How big is the playground? So if everything was multiplied a few hundred times for you, would it still in reality continue to be just a speck as you remain with her in snake? And check really for what it is. You will find that your being is infinite.
That's why the Master says, if I could get the entire pain from all my children—not just my children, if I could take the pain of all humanity—it would be nothing to me. Because the recognition of this infinite being in this, it is seen that none of this can actually hurt the reality of my being. So this being itself is unlimited once we lose the notion that it is contained within this body. I'm starting to find your true being, and then you will see for that who is aware of this being, that it is aware of even this being. For that, although any spatial comparison or metaphor does not really work, we can say that even this being is just a speck of light compared to the absolute you, to the eternal you. But an aspect... it's just an aspect, and yet the dynamic aspect itself, confronting the entire universe, does contain the entire universe. Or must you be what is Shiva?
Now, this Shiva wanted to be entertained. You know, some parts of the play can seem like they're not going to finish. Shiva wanted to be in station, yeah. See if you can recognize the story about yourself. It is not fiction. It is fiction to the extent that to Shiva, even we cannot use the term entity, but that much... leave everything. So Shiva wanted to be an entity. Now this Shiva is all there is, everything, and that 'all there is' is just an aspect of it. Now Shiva said, 'I am all there is. How to play? How to be entertained? If I can continue to see that I am all there is, and actually in reality I am much beyond even that, then how can I have some drama into my life?' What would you have to do first? You would have to believe that you are not the unlimited one. As long as you are the unlimited one, no possibility of this kind of play, soap opera, not possible.
So first we must believe yourself to be something which has a boundary, something which has a limitation. Now, are you ready for this? You are Shiva right now. You are. You are Shiva. Now please, you cannot play without a notion about yourself. You are Shiva now. You cannot have a grievance, you cannot have a regret, you cannot have pride, you cannot have specialness, you cannot have remorse, you cannot have guilt. You cannot have anything that we describe as suffering unless you pick up a notion about yourself. No pain is too much for you, no pleasure gets you attached to it. All is allowed to come and it is true. How can I say these things? Because I see this and we are one, just playing as if we are separated.
Now Shiva, tell me, without a notion about yourself, what troubles you? And he's going to keep quiet for a bit, distracting everyone. What troubles you notionlessly? Do you exist or no? Is your existence here or not? Is your perception functioning normally or not? Sounds are being heard, visuals are being seen. Existence is just effortlessly here with me now. Effortlessly your existence is here, and all that is called the natural functioning of life is functioning.
Just playing as if we are separated now. Shiva, tell me, without a notion about yourself, what troubles you? And he's going to keep quiet for a bit, distracting everyone. What troubles you? Motionlessly, do you exist or no? Is your existence here or not? Is your perception functioning normally or not? Sounds are being heard, visuals are being seen. Existence is just effortlessly here with me now. Effortlessly, your existence is here and all that is called the natural functioning of life is functioning now. What do you need a notion for to run your lives? Life is not running in this moment? It is happening. Heart is beating. If food is needed, food will show up. Try it. But you can't try it with the sense of a trick. God will make sure it doesn't show up if you leave it alone. Then whatever is needed for God's own sustenance of God has to show up because all is in service to God. But if you try to make it a trick from your individuality, it doesn't work like that. It's not a cheat code.
You are aware of your existence. This awareness is the Absolute. Is there a person sitting there? The one who has to do something sitting there? Is the one that wants some things sitting there? That thing is there, except your very existence which contains all things. A few moments of open checking will make this completely apparent to you. If you check without a preconceived notion that 'this is too much, I must be something contained in this body,' but how can the world be within me? If you cling with all these concepts, then we can seem to get nowhere. But ultimately, all these concepts will be discarded. If you just check, you will find that like the entire dream is contained within you, all this that you're perceiving is also contained within. All that you used to define as your limit is now being seen as forms.
If you still have a notion about you, then it can seem like a very strange concept. How can everything be within my body? I'm not saying it is within your body because your body sensations are also experienced within your being, within your existence. Where are these words being heard? Where is the sound of the traffic being heard? Same place as the body is being experienced. And you are aware of this. Can any content in this come and make a scratch on this awareness? No matter how strong a fire it is, how sharp a sword it is, can it leave any residue on that which is aware of your existence?
Now, don't try to be that, because if you try to be that, you first invent something which is not that. If you want to try something, try to leave that. Don't be aware. Leave awareness aside. Who can do it? Only this you cannot leave. Even your very sense of existence, being, will be left aside in Nirguna when you are done with its experience of existence. But that which witnesses, the primal witnessing, that does not come and go. But what drama is here? Nothing. I cannot be hurt, I cannot be scratched, I cannot be tainted, I cannot have any attribute about myself. Reality for any of this, first I must exist. So existence comes. I am. Playing as 'I am' and no trouble. Even now, if you had no ability to attach any attribute to yourselves—'I am something'—if that was not a possibility, if you could not say 'I am the body, I am my name, I am anything,' and also show me a trouble. You could not attach 'I am something,' you could not attach 'I am nothing.' Nothing you can attach. First you must pose as something. You must put on the mask of something, the pretense of something. Only then a trouble can seem real.
Easy. I know I've spoken for one hour already, but just stay with me on this point. You tell me whether you see it or not. Unless I pick up the idea 'I am something,' suffering is an alien concept. This much is seen. This is the main point of satsang, because in this, the absolute truth is also apparent. So I just take this. Don't worry about the Absolute; it is not going anywhere. Just notice this much about yourself: that unless I pick up the idea 'I am something,' which is usually the idea of the body, or usually the idea that I am the body-mind, unless I have this premise, this basic notion, no other notion can trouble me.
So, no money in the bank. No money in the bank. Unless you have a notion that you are this body-mind, can it trouble you? No partner in life, or a terrible partner, not good enough. Unless you are the body-mind, can this? The notion of not finding freedom, not coming to freedom, not finding enlightenment, or even the favorite one, which is 'I see it but I can't stay in it, I have to stay in it.' Not being able to do that, can it trouble you unless you have the notion that you are a body-mind? God is not being able to stay in it? So there must be a limited notion that God is playing with before you can pick up any other notion which seems to be causing any trouble.
That is why this is direct satsang. Can we attack this notion that you are something directly, without getting into whatever the seeming trouble might be? Because we know that actually the only trouble is this. So now you have this infection: 'I am something.' What to do? Suppose you have this infection that 'I am something, I am the body-mind.' What to do now? You are unraveling the entirety of spirituality considering that you have this notion. The sages have said: either surrender it or inquire into it. Now, whatever you consider yourself to be, hand it over right now, this moment. Whatever that 'something' might be, just leave it here. This is called surrender. Some of devotional temperament, some open that way and see. Yes, alert. Some who are not of this temperament then can say, 'No, no, but it is true, this thinking I am something.' Then leave it over and over. Those can do the inquiry: 'I am something. Who is the I that is something? I am not good enough for freedom. Who is the I which is not good enough for freedom?'
If you pop the grenade of this question in your being and then you leave this question unmolested—unmolested by our expectation, unmolested by what should happen, unmolested by 'are we there yet'—you will find that it will clean up. This grenade will explode everything that you're holding on to. Then you will find that whether it was the seeming surrender or it was the seeming inquiry, it is just this notion 'I am something' which was dropped away, and just 'I am' remains. Now, if surrender or self-inquiry don't seem to be there, if there is not much resonance happening with that, then some different methods can be prescribed, like mantra, like kirtan. Believe me, all these paths can be prescribed, but that's not usually what happens in our session here. The meeting is to more share about this. So we find most of what is in satsang is surrender, and a lot of it is about inquiry, and a little bit can seem like it is about both. But actually, it is just about removing this 'something' from 'I am.' I am saying that this being is completely complete. It is that which is the container of the universe. Do not contain the 'me' in it. And ultimately, you will see that even this being is a coming and going. The reality of what I am is even before 'I am.' Nothing has to be done here.
As you drop the notion of 'something,' then this absolute truth is very apparent. And the best, best, best news is that in this moment, completely fresh, if I don't give you a moment to think about it, you are not. And when I do give you a moment to think about it, what is usually the mind saying? But that is easier said than done. At some point, something moves away from these pretty dolls of the mind and you allow yourself to taste your own magnificent being. That is why I say: don't exchange your magnificent being for any idea about yourselves, no matter how good it sounds. That is spirituality. Now, with that, you remove that 'something.' You're just bringing all your attention to your breath all the time, that which the Buddhists might call mindfulness, or you are chanting a mantra, or you are doing some other practice. It's all about this, because all the sages, no matter which path they went on, found that the only way for suffering to come is to first pick up the notion that 'I am something.'
Yeah, it's quite clear here, but I feel they're engaging in one talking.
Yes. Is it true? Tell me from what you see. Who is talking? Who's being talked to? Where are they? Both of them? None of it? The flow? What do you see?
A certain sense, a set of sensations which I'm calling 'me,' and there's another set of sensations or perceptions which we are calling 'you.' Actually, I would not make that distinction.
What is here? So there isn't, you say, if there wasn't 'me,' there is no problem. So I'm telling you that there isn't. No sensations. Is that what is originally not happening? Anything real? Why? When did it become? But why did it come? She wanted to bring me sensations. She wanted to experience all that this play has to offer. You know, personally, it wants to play all the plays. Much Ado About Nothing, Romeo and Juliet, all these plays it wanted to play. How can I play like that without picking up the idea of a 'me'? So the game has ended as long as all the words have no meaning. It's like wanting a particular thing to happen, experience maybe.
You say, 'I know absolutely.' This is a very important point. I said that you are not an object, and you look and you found that you are not an object. It is as simple as that. So what I mean by openness, because this openness you will not find regularly. I mean, I can't walk on the streets and say, 'You are not an object, see.' Nobody will say; they'll take this man to the police station. You open now to check and you see that you are not an object. Then what happened? There is nothing but you in that point. There is no... surrender has no meaning. Surrender has no meaning when you hang on to this 'me' and then the 'me' kicks in, then is suffering and surrender and say, 'Take me, agreed, and finish me off, erase me.' All these things you need to do, and it's happening, agreed.
But the good news—if I have a 'but' for this, but this is the good news—is that no matter how much the intensity of the 'me' was, how much you feel in the basket of the 'me,' in this moment you are empty of it. So even now, when the offer for the 'me' comes, surrender that or inquire into it. If it has some power, if you feel like it has some power, see it is my Father's problem. And you don't have to say it over; it becomes our attitude. Vengeance, whatever is coming, this one is not easy. Whose problem? One wouldn't do you want to? Yes. So if consciousness wants to play with that identity some more, then you keep saying the words 'I surrender, I surrender.' Surrender doesn't happen. It's just like a vocal. But when something comes, then sensations, sensations. A sensation comes. If the 'me' is nothing, that is exactly what I was going to say. There is never the need for anything.
You say for somebody to complete you, it's only to solve something to the 'me.' Okay, silly example is coming up. So on the clouds, if we imagine a face, like many of us, and you look at a cloud, you'll see a face. Or on the wall, then you see the face and say, 'This face has some pimples, let me apply some pimple cream.' It is like trying to solve something for the non-existent. Trying to solve the pimples on the face of the cloud. That's right. Snake in the rope example is there. Now we try to train the snake, we're trying to make this snake big, and try to do whatever with this snake. But once you see that there was no snake, just a rope, what to do with the snake? What to do with the 'me' that is never there?
Yes, look at this again. The Yoga Vasistha: the seventh son of the woman who had no children wanted to find freedom. How will you help the seventh son of the woman who had no children? He wanted to find freedom and you have to be compassionate. So, but you can pretend as if you are anything in dual consciousness. Consciousness is one independently and the plays are all right. If the pretense is there that suffering me... with that, if the pretense is there, which means that I am picking up the 'I' and the 'me,' the pretense of the 'me,' then suffering will come. That is the design of this play. But if it is not in the play, it will go. In the life of this body, something is happening.
Had no children, wanted to find freedom, and you have to be compassionate. So, but you can pretend as if you are anything. In dual consciousness, it is one independently and the plays are all right. If the pretense is there that suffering is me, with that, if the pretense is there, which means that I am picking up the 'me' and the 'mine'—the pretense of the 'me'—then suffering will come. That is the design of this plane. But if it is not in the play, it will go. In the life of this body, is something system already scripted out? This, it has to roll till it goes to the cloth, okay, as a concept. Because actually, for consciousness, you cannot make a rule. It can or not. What I'm saying is that once you see that you are this consciousness, then you will find that consciousness does not operate—it does not have to conform to any law or rule or principle that you might think. Once you see that you appear, then time and space disappear. They appear, they can happen, what happened? This graph can come from out. There are no suffering, really. Let's put it that way. No individuality, no sense of ego is there, no individuality. See, everywhere it's important to see that it is past this body which is finding freedom. It is not a Gopal which is finding freedom. And that which is recognizing its own self, see, is that 'I have always been free.' I cannot be bound. No law, no rule, no principle can apply to that which is beyond all things. All these are nice things to say about the phenomenal realm when we consider ourselves to be an object. It's already like that's what I mean by the play will continue, really. But you cannot really say it continues because of this or because of that, or this is the way it has to be. Consciousness, you can play any way. You can decide in one moment that from now on, no chocolate cake. It's all can see lots of chocolate. It wants to play with this planet, basically whatever it wants. As long as we still feel like there is some truth about myself as an object, then all these things can sound very funny. But once you see what you really are, then you will find that this world, this all the way things here now, will be the dream for another one who calls that the waking state. Nothing at all. I'm going to make shake and roll back, but something that sound keep going, right?
He was an angel, yes or no? Is something I am saying that it is because something is there like a fear of the no, is it?
Yeah, if I said no, flavors don't keep. Yes, I see that you're beyond time and space, beyond life and death, beyond dream and waking. It's the reality of what you are. Who is there to be concerned about immunities? Just only the remnants of our conditioning still can have some fear about how the experience is going to be, how is my life or future. Always treats this fear will become wonder. Can you start to see? You don't know what will be the content of the next scene of this movie. You don't know what this body is going to say next. You've never known, actually. We've only presumed we know what words are going to be spoken and what actions are going to happen. Actually, it's just been happening. Maintain me that something is hearing the words coming from there, also hearing the words. What made these mine and all? You are nothing like that. Sensations, its appearances in consciousness. Just the intimacy of these sensations, the intimacy of this voice, the intimacy of all of this has made it seem like it is me because it's been mixed with, or to convince consciousness, 'Oh, this is me and that is another.' So consciousness is perceiving this another speaking these words is all. She is perceiving this. Anything that you can point to and say 'that is me' is not true because you are beyond that which can be pointed to in that way. I cannot see you are there or you are here. Here, direction has no meaning for that. It's a easier, see, see. It has been very designed. Consciousness wants to play. Do you want a half-hearted design of the play? Now your eyes are open. What are you? What I know what you mean also because this visual perception, the visual stimuli in this plane is a large, large percentage of... Thank you all so much for being in satsang today. Satguru Mooji Baba ki Jai.
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