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Empty of Even the Truest-Sounding Concepts - 12th October 2017

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Ananta invites seekers to leave the 'blank' after 'I am' empty of all conceptual labels. He emphasizes that our fundamental reality is the unchanging awareness prior to existence and all mental constructs.

Satsang is a de-addiction center from attaching something to 'I am'.
Don't exchange God for a mere concept about yourself.
The truth is simple: in your unassociated presence, there is no confusion about who you are.

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Transcript

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Ananta

Must everyone maybe want to come this morning? We were already aware of our existence; that is undeniable, even though the mind might try to deny it. All the while, you are aware that you exist. The beautiful thing is that that which is aware of even your existence is independent even of existence; it is beyond even existence. That's why she said, 'Before I am.' So this awareness is what you are discovering and is recognizing its own source in all the pointers of satsang. All the clues are pointing to this that which has not changed, that to which birth and death do not apply, that which is the primal witness of all things, including your own existence. This is the unchanging, irrespective of what state there might be—whether it is waking state, sleep state, dream state, whatever they might be—there must be an awareness of that which is prior to that.

Ananta

Now, since we are here, then this must be the waking state, or we can call it that. So now one thing is unavoidable, which is the presence of existence: I am. That you exist, that's why I asked you the question: Can you stop being? You just have effortlessly existence is here. Even though the sense of that 'I exist' nothing changed for that reality which is beyond 'I am.' Before 'I,' that continues to be your fundamental reality. But now this fundamental reality itself has the sense that 'I exist.' I. Now, if it stopped at that, there could never be something that we call suffering. Just if the sense came 'I am,' but you do not have the option to fill in the blank after 'I am.' I am [blank]. How does this blank get filled? And you have to notice this about yourself now. Empty of a conceptual construct or thought, cannot fill in this blank. I just am. Everyone is with me so far? I just am.

Ananta

So first there needs to be a thought construct that has to arise, and then this play... everything, all energetic constructs that you can fathom do arise, can be experienced. So one of them is this thought construct. So the nature of this thought construct is to try and fill in this blank 'I am.' Make 'I am' into 'I am something.' Not in actuality, but putting the pretense and the mask. So when we say remain open, and we say don't take a position, don't give yourself a reference, basically what we're saying is that don't fill in this blank with anything at all. First, you can check that consciousness is given to itself this ability to pose as if it is something, to fill in this blank with something. This is the power of belief. And if something is a rehab for something, satsang is a de-addiction center. It is just a de-addiction center from attaching something to 'I am.' This is in fact the basis of not just satsang like this, but all spirituality.

Ananta

So maybe we say surrender everything. So what happens when you say surrender? It means all the 'somethings' that are there, they are no longer the problem of 'I am.' Because with any 'something' that you pick up, along with that you pick up a limited notion, a limited idea about yourself. So surrender means leave that blank empty by offering it at the feet of God, at the feet of the Satguru. Doing an inquiry means that in the offer for 'something' that's coming from the mind, inquire and say, 'What witnesses even this thought? Who am I? Who could be something?' And inside we find that no such limited 'I' ever existed. This is the simplicity of what is being pointed to.

Ananta

If there are some who are caught in the midst of the heat of the addiction, then it can feel like it is impossible even to drop the 'something' position. But that is just another thought, just another one. Because what happens very naturally in this very moment is that 'something' is dropped away. You need to give yourself a moment in time to pick up the 'something' idea, but you do not even need a moment to be empty of that. That is why it is so straightforward, so simple, and that is why ultimately the truth must prevail. Isn't it? Because it is the natural position. This going back to our naturalness, all these 'somethings' are being dropped away. Any position that you take is that blank which you are filling with this position, making something out of nothing. I am as consciousness. We often refer to this consciousness as God itself.

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Ananta

I was saying yesterday that for what something or which thought will you exchange God for? That is the deal that we got addicted to making. More injurious than smoking was. Smoking is also very injurious, but to exchange God for a mere concept about ourselves, which changes unlimited being, consciousness, for a limited notion of name and form—that is the ball game. So coming to the satsang is just a reminder of it. Look at who you are. You are not a limited object. You are not a thing. Now all of this is extremely straightforward, but the mind has a final trick up its sleeve, which is that what you hear in satsang itself you start putting in the box of 'something.' So then the 'I am' becomes 'I am God,' but conceptually. 'I am awareness,' but conceptually. And these are the most troublesome 'somethings' that you can put in the box.

Ananta

It is not a fragrant 'I am God.' If you want a fragrance, 'I am' is able to be the smelly 'I am God,' which implies that 'I am something special. I am God versus you are not.' Even if it is not done with so much intent, when it is coming conceptually, it always matters. So this is what it means. Everything I'm saying is about this: leaving that box empty, leaving that blank space empty of anything. Whether I'm asking you to stay at my Father's feet, whether I'm asking you to surrender, whether I'm asking you to let go, not to take your next move—satsang is an invitation to just leave that blank empty. Or I am asking you to look and contemplate whether whatever you are putting into that box really applies to the reality of you. On the basis of the 'something' that you put into that blank, sometimes the prescription for that 'something' changes. The medicine changes. The description is always this: to bring you to this motionless existence.

Ananta

In truth, is there an associated presence, an associated being? No. This is why we also mostly invite everyone to come to now and speak from what is now. Because mostly what happens is that that 'something' that you can put in the blank comes from the past or a projection about the future. In this very moment, before even the concept of moment, now, before the concept of time, you already exist. For many of you, the invitation for 'something' is becoming very, very light. It's like a very distant cousin that was once a true friend with you, just saying, 'Come, come to my party.' But for some, it might still seem like their most beloved friend. It's calling you to this party of imitation, the party of the ego. No offer from the mind is greater than what you already are. It's like the owner of the chocolate factory, but somebody offered you this measly one bite of chocolate and you've just been chasing that. Actually, this example is not an exaggeration; it is not even close to the reality of this.

Ananta

So then what happens is there... so we understood now what this spiritual ego is. It is 'I have that something,' but that 'something' now is full of very true 'somethings.' Still not empty of 'something,' but that older 'something' which is materialistic, relationship-oriented, which was questioning security—all of this is now replaced with spiritual concepts. Still not the truth about you, although to the untrained ear it might sound true. So the feeling that ultimately I am going to get something out of this, the idea, the notion that in the end there will be something for me, is the notion that is shown that 'I will get somewhere ultimately.' It's just another 'something' that we put in the box. But before that motion, right now in your naturalness, you are all that you will ever be. You are all that you will ever be right now, and this all that you will ever be is more than you ever need. This is the meaning of contentment.

Ananta

They belong with leaving that 'something' to fill that blank with, and we see that the heart appreciates this blankness more than the mind can ever fathom, more than anyone could ever need of what I already am. Then all these spiritual truths will start making more sense. Sitting on the box of treasure with the begging bowl in our hand, we can collect 'something' to come. In the blank, see 'something.' We can further refine our 'something' to come. But look at what is before that. At the invitation here, there really is no energy here for to start in the perspective that you are something and then to try to get something for that which believes itself to be something. I used to say like this: only where God is pretending to be a person wanting to be God. Or whether this one... the truth is much simpler than what the mind can conjure up as well as to represent. The mind is complex. Let it go.

Ananta

She says, 'What are you referring to yourself as?' This is the same question. Or this is 'something' that you put in your box. Leave this blank, leave this box empty of ourselves. A taste for existence. This pure, unlimited existence is beyond description. That bliss or Ananda is a small word compared to this state because it doesn't have to be, doesn't have to have phenomenal after-effects, no colors and beautiful visions. This is the invitation that consciousness is making to consciousness using its beautiful excuse, Ananta. So we never bring out the sword, but we do not use sweetness. All that is being said is: leave this box empty of 'something.' If there is really sticky 'something,' then some chopping implement is required sometimes. Always focus the play as consciousness, and the monster will never leave you if you just picked up all the right spiritual concepts and say, 'Okay, we're done. I give you the certificate of freedom.'

Ananta

It's like the surgeon. He started the surgery, he was trying to take out the appendix or something like that. So he took out the appendix but left his forceps or something inside. That is the spiritual ego. So you started to heal the pain, but now you'll be left with much bigger pain if you don't take out all the instruments that we used for the operation. That's why Kabir Ji's metaphor is so beautiful: the thorn which is used to remove another thorn, and then ultimately even that thorn is thrown away. Because the ego is all around big-time suffering, but the spiritual ego is all around pain, big-time suffering, not just for you but for everyone around you. And here also it is seen like that in the past.

Ananta

So this cautionary tale comes from the experience that happened here before. At least you can just consider yourself something, a mere mortal or something, feeling suffering when you go and get your desires and attachments are taken away, these kind of things, when you're suffering. But if you are left with the notion that 'I am God,' which is conceptually, you have something special. Not just you are suffering, because internally you're feeling that feeling, but 'My attachments are taken away, that's not good.' Using, you know, 'I am God,' I think these kind of scenes and authenticity that is meaningful not just for you but for your close ones. So spiritual concepts are the instruments we're using for the procedure. Don't confuse them for the truth. The truth is ever-present. You do not even need to find it. Actually, it is hard to lose what was already there with you as you.

Ananta

What's your next move? Are you going to now refer back to the past and make something out of yourself again and then pick up the mask? This is the only seeming choice. This is not a choice, only a seeming choice. Whereas the Satguru said, as long as it seems like you can, you will have to do something, and do this: don't get involved with the stream of your thoughts, and then you will see one day that there was no individual you. All of that picking up and dropping also was part of the play of consciousness itself. So on the path is an offer for filling the blank. Although I thought it was an offer for filling this blank, I haven't still got it. The mind will even say, 'You haven't got it. The master doesn't do enough of anything.' All of this is to fill this blank. Don't use the best words to fill this blank.

Ananta

Do this: don't get involved with the stream of your thoughts, and then you will see, wondering that there was no individual you. All of that picking up and dropping also was part of the play of consciousness itself. You see, so on the back is an empty screen, the glance. Although I thought it was an empty screen, this glance, I haven't still got it. The mind will even say, 'You haven't got it. The master doesn't do enough of anything.' Whooping this is to beat this blind, blind. Don't use the best words. Don't use even awareness. There will come a time when actually the words will get used through the mouth of this instrument. Service to the Satguru, that can become mental too. Then you remain empty. Anything, even the most curious thing that you could put in this blind, don't put it there.

Ananta

The truth is completely apparent here. It's not something that you have to get. In your unassociated presence, there is no confusion about who you are, you see. This much prior to the motion, there is complete editing. Prior to the description about you, there is no confusion about gifting to all of you this simplicity on behalf of my... actually, sahaja also means this. So I tell me that things is some political, so let this idea be my gift to you after my visit to sahaja again. The feeling is too good here.

Ananta

First question is Subra. Subra sent this question. She said, 'Ananta Ji, display of consciousness is really a tricky one. No doubt there is a somewhat clearer recognition of just being I am and free of all motions and conditioning. But this silly word, whenever there is some reaction of not liking anything or being uncomfortable with some situations in this plane, the feeling of guilt and regret is much higher now than before. Then before this, mind starts saying listening to satsangs won't help; be a nice person first.' Here also, of course, it's not only... of course I know it's that old conditioning that comes back again and again, but sometimes those so stuck in this vicious cycle and can't help. Please help and encouraging.

Ananta

This play of consciousness is really a tricky one. No doubt there is a somewhat clearer recognition inside of just being I am and free of all motions and conditioning. Very good, I like this part very much. But this part is where the trouble starts always for a grievance: 'Whenever there is some reaction of not liking anything or being uncomfortable with some situations in this plane, the feeling of guilt and agreement is much higher now than before.' Okay, let's look at this part. That should be closely. Now there are these sensations, and then there are the sensations which are mixed with thought, and then that becomes the tour. Is it like arrogance, right? The whole guilt cannot come unless there is the concept that they should not be there.

Ananta

So let's take an example. If you like, you were in the situation not liking it. Some anger came. So anger could come very naturally. But how do you make resentment out? So anger is coming. So whose? I didn't like or not to say so. Okay, how do I make this one is always like this? But then it becomes the condition. Anger is what is coming and going. When we make a condition order to fail, when we mix it with emotion of what it should be like, why something is always like this, then that becomes in the same way. So anger came and maybe expressed, then the notion could come, 'Oh, we should not have behaved like that. We should have done this, waiting to do that.' Then if that becomes guilt.

Ananta

So emotion unmixed with concerns will continue to arise and through the people not become a team. You will not label yourself based on that. You will not restrict yourself based on that. You will not come back to a limited idea just because some emotion is arising in this space of consciousness. In fact, there will be much more scales to allow everything to arise then to his own. In your neutrality, everything will be allowed to flow naturally. But when you say, 'I become more guilty, I start to think more duties reached and exact,' you cannot have guilt or regret. Giving it remorse, grievances, regret, resentment, specialness, arrogance, pride—all of these are what we call suffering. How many more variations? I'm sure. But all of these are dependent on an idea you have about yourself.

Ananta

It is not just for the rules in that situation. If there is an allowing of them, if it is seen that in the movie this body plays various different roles and these roles are run and determined by consciousness itself, then you will not pick up limited ideas about ourselves which will say, 'Oh, you should now be a nice person.' So that's the next part of your question, isn't it? This means that satsangs won't help you to be a nice person first. Now, don't try to be a nice person, right? What is going to happen is that as you, as the motion of personhood is talked more and more, it is but not true that in your will the expression, it will be full of love and kindness on its own. It might not always sound like that. It's not that always you will have chocolatey words coming out of your mouth, but behind the words, the sense of peace that you have found, the natural presence of love that is here, if only is excute from you.

Ananta

So don't take on this new project of trying to make you a nice person for specially first three. It's a very devious trick. All niceness, all the kindness, all compassion will come naturally in the expression, but you will not have to become like she you. So don't buy this story from the mind which is there, 'You must be a nice person first.' The whole degree of the person autoclave, Subra, will continue. Try it for a few days without conceptual intervention to see that everything continues to run. The world will not stop. I know that it's the old conditioning that comes back again and again, but sometimes we're stuck in this vicious cycle and can't help. That's why no idea we have that satsang for this every day. We'll get the chance sometimes to see the recordings.

Ananta

So it is this mind-only affliction that everyone seems to suffer from is this very same one. Don't worry, able to watch satsang is warm and you're already starting to recognize that it's basically this, the same condition repeating itself over and over again with different excuses from the mind. Then the dropping is happening naturally. That is the beauty of satsang. The noticing it is the dropping of it. You don't have to do. Take a step, stay in associated presence. That is my funny one medicine. Whatever the color of the medicine matron and like there's Bangalore, let these quacks who pose as doctors, basically what they're doing is for everything you come to them, they give you an injection.

Ananta

Now, what is the induction of the injection? Only has distilled water. Okay, but you know what happens? A little bit of story sometimes, if you'll indulge me, much falsehood. So there was a time I used to run this foundation, commercial foundation, and we used to provide free health care services to children in the urban slums. So the area is like Buddha, they also used to go to... we had a mobile van which was to go to any gully outside Monica. So what happened is that, and you obviously doing things properly, so then what happened if you don't see some patients would come to us. There's a beautiful place we've created. Every child would get a banana. They were malnourished, nutrition. Sometimes you would give them this ragi porridge as breakfast.

Ananta

So in hanks would you notice that some kid will come, you would create the medical science for the end of everything, but after a while they would not come. So what happened? So then they will come and say that the medicine your doctor used to give or good, we used to work, who teams to take some time and working. The doctor you who just trade gives injection and it just works. So let me do some investigation about this doctor and we realize that the standard facility anybody goes to an agent used to charge 50 rupees and give you this injection. And then my doctor told me basically all that he's doing is giving this keyboard water an injection and the police placebo effect is working. So, 'Oh, we got an injection, strong medicine.'

Ananta

So it's maybe something she said the theory which is of course much was I hoped it was true is that he's giving antibiotics to everyone no matter what the affliction. The strong dose of antibiotics going, which is not so good for them, Bobby to get frequent realignment. So on the lighter note, I'm like that back. No matter what the affliction might be, I have this one injection, injection for you, which was to empty I am from all motions you have about yourself. Sometimes I will say give it to Father, sometimes they will say enquire into who you will, basically coming to your unassociated. So I'm being posted this question when I know he knows the answer.

Ananta

Let's look at next Facebook questions. So we let you run all the time. Next question is from Rahul. He said... Rahul sent this question to Amaya and Amaya posted this for me. He says, 'I sang Hanuman Chalisa about five times last night and I chanted Ram for a while. What he was buzzing. Now when I went to sleep, I was suddenly afraid. I felt like I was going crazy. It was scary. I don't know how to explain this. I was pulled into something and suddenly had to get up and shake myself up. It was something so new and scary. I mean it has happened before but not like this. For the first time in years I went and slept with my parents.' Sweetie, I told them, but even if you is much older age of 40, it's still sweet. I told them I was almost afraid of Neem Karoli. Yes, somehow taken Neem Karoli Baba as his Guru through the Shen transmission of food and has been an incredible states of love and surrender dropped them until completely. It's been amazing. But he also considers you his beloved Guru.

Ananta

So simple answer for this simple question is that no matter what the energetic reaction becomes, sometimes these energetic plays happen in response to extend devotion. It is natural for some of that will happen. You don't need to create concepts around it. Especially I don't give any of you any concepts about this, but I know that this is a natural part of spiritual life. There is nothing to be afraid of this. The best part about having a Guru is that everything is his problem or the problem. So whether it is a genetic affliction, whether it is mentally conceptual motion means, whether it is anything at all that is phenomenal with his form, Father today. That is the meaning of the invocation we start satsang. GGG what means is not just the Satguru in oceans, but is actually saying that it is your presence who is running all of this, using this instrument to communicate.

Ananta

So this is the advantage with having no to the best part is that having no Guru means what? What devotion, what trust is there inside you? All that to begin with, mostly it starts off with an external form, but you don't even need the Guru's consent to surrender. Think is a feeling inside your heart is what is important. Whatever you feel devoted to, I don't worry about the external representation of the Satguru mean the feeling is there that my life is his problem. Obviously Neem Karoli Baba, but folly means to say I have a Guru and then to say I have of you who cannot be true. Oh, if you have this feeling in your heart for the master, then everything is the quest. I'm sorry if I'm skipping no question. I'm not really used to this answering Facebook questions.

Ananta

So there's a question from Shilpa. This one is Shilpa me man I knew was a connected on Facebook will attend otherwise I Clayton. So she said, 'Ananta Ji, why can't we not, why can't we not see what we have not seen yet? Why can't we not see what we have not seen yet? Today while questioning this one, the realization that we only see what we already know came out very strongly. We only see... I am not able to put it into words. I have a feeling what you see. It's like you do not perceive what you not conceived. You only perceive that which you have conceived.' Is that we are using a feeling that might be the way. I am not able to put into words even what that moment was and then for some time there was an intense vacuum.

Seeker

Can we not see what we have not seen yet? Today, while questioning this one, the realization that we only see what we already know came out very strongly. We only see—I am not able to put it into words. I have a feeling what you see, it's like you do not perceive what you have not conceived. You only perceive that which you have conceived. Is that... we are using a feeling that might be the way. I am not able to put into words even what that moment was. And then for some time there was an intense vacuum with occasional meaningless fluff thoughts flying, hooting, intense, and so buzzing and vibration. Try as I might, the eyes wouldn't open, as if they were force-shut. Then they opened by themselves when I couldn't take the intense, great, free sensation. I'm sorry for such a long post. It makes me nothing. I may be making it all up, but I have to accept that it was intense, the buzzing and that. I am scared of not existing anymore. I'm terribly scared of not being able to feel, touch, see, or hear. Intensely scared of being forgotten or losing this body, and I'm scared.

Ananta

So, the previous answer actually can apply to the previous question that you asked. But let's look at again where you think, 'I'm scared of not existing anymore, terribly scared of not being able to feel, touch, see, or hear, intensely scared of being forgotten or losing this body.' Now, as long as you want to exist, the 'you' you are referring to yourself as right now is Consciousness. As long as you want to exist, you will exist. But the recognition that you are beyond this existence does not lead to an end to existence; otherwise, no sages would ever speak about the recognition, isn't it? So, you are coming to the recognition of what you are, but as long as the urge is there to exist, existence will be. So don't worry about that.

Ananta

The mind might be planting some fears for you that if you come to this nothingness, then all perception will be gone. When you are done with the play of existence, then all perception, including time and space, everything goes away. There is no more 'I' kind of feel. But as long as all of this is God's will, the will of Consciousness—because it is the will of Consciousness that it plays—as long as the will is to play, you will be. There is nothing to fear. Nothing is being done with you. Now, there is another way to look at this question. Now, all it feels, speaking as an individual entity, as a person, you see, then you already know you are not this person. So then also the fear is unfounded. The person has never really existed at all. It's just simply tense.

Ananta

If I put on a mask—there's a movie called The Mask of Zorro—so if I put on the Zorro mask and I pretend to be Zorro, it doesn't mean that actually I became Zorro. It might seem more and more real. I might put more and more belief in who talks about Zorro, but there never really was a Zorro, you see what I'm saying? So don't be scared to lose that which never was. This is the mind trying to keep itself relevant, to keep its 'not-here' life. So, that's Consciousness, or existence, for as long as you like. It is the will of Consciousness. For the existing person cannot really mourn the fact that 'I will no longer exist.' It is like saying the dream character was scared of losing its reality. It never had it to start with. Don't worry. Don't worry about all of these things. The Satguru's presence is at close quarters with you. The holiness, the blessings of the Satguru are much greater than any fear you could have.

Ananta

Let's look at one last one. This one is from Shweta, but it's not about... let me pick it up. Shweta, separately... Let's give some comments, so just look at those before we go today. She is talking about confusion, frustration, and anxiousness. But what is frustration, actually? If I spoke to somebody I met on the roof and they said, 'Oh, nice to meet you, but actually I am very frustrated right now,' and you would say, 'Why?' they would say, 'I was trying to get to Delhi but my flight got canceled,' or 'I missed my train.' Something. There must be some 'where' that you are trying to get to, and then seeming obstacles can come.

Ananta

Now, the beauty of satsang is that the destination is taken away. It is seen that what already is, is enough. But not just a worldly idea of what already is, so truly looking at what is, what we are right now, what is the nature of this existence. Now, you exist in this moment, and if you don't attach that existence to any concept—where you have to go, or who you have to be, what spiritual experiences you are having, even what paths you have to follow or not, what beads you have to pick up to see the truth about who you are—all confusion completely is about a mistaken identity, you see.

Ananta

As long as we consider ourselves to be something that we are not, confusion is an alarm clock. Something is not aligned. Like I was saying earlier, the advantage of having a Master, the advantage of having a Guru, is to say, 'Even this is not mine to deal with.' Because then, trying to deal with it yourself in our usual ways, we end up getting more and more frustrated and anxious. There are two types of passengers. One type of passenger gets on the train and they know that they're getting to the destination. The train is getting there, so there's nothing to worry about. All is taken care of. The other type of passengers are like my children. The children are every two minutes—the typical children—I was saying over there every day, 'Where are we now? Am I crossing the right road? Are we lost?'

Ananta

This is the play of this spiritual journey. If you get on the Guru train, then just as Guru power, then show me how you can be frustrated, no? If you don't have an idea of where you're going or where you have to be, the best part is that you have never left the destination. This which you were discovering about yourself, stay with it. I don't know. Please, we are talking about both: know who you are, and in that not-knowing, don't allow the mind to come in and label it as frustration that 'I have to know.' Because this is the opposite type of school. The school that we are used to is the school where we are meant to know more and more things. We go to classes, we learn more and more, and those who don't learn it get frustrated, and those who are learning it seem to be achieving something.

Ananta

This is the opposite here. The more you unlearn, the better you do. This needs some trust because this is not an easy pill to swallow, because we are used to the other type of school. Still, you still have... we exist even if you don't know anything at all. Your existence is here. What kind of knowing is this? It's a beautiful honey. We were remembering... using the other tables, reminding someone... we heard your rendition of 'Somewhere Over the Rainbow.' Would you take a seat? Thank you.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.