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Drop All Allegiance with the Mind - 29 April 2016

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Ananta guides a student to discard the 'seeker' and 'checker' identities that report on spiritual progress. He emphasizes that one remains the untouched witness, prior to all mental concepts and suffering.

Don't buy what the mind is selling; it tries to sound meaningful but it is just reporting.
This nobody-ness is truer than the somebody-ness.
You are the witness of the birth and death of the universe; nothing can ever happen to you.

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Transcript

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Ananta

Namaste everyone. A very warm welcome to satsang. Actually, I have a very short time today, so some questions are there. Let's keep them very short, but there is enough time. Okay, Supriya wants to come, she can come. You know, my step-father's... you want to come up next in the queue?

Seeker

In the... yeah, no, I think... I asked Father, suddenly sweating, but that scary Father. I'm experiencing fearsome situation, anger, everything together in fractal. I shared it with you or a message, and it's kind of personal everyday stuff, but there isn't a big identity behind it. It's like running the light, literally for seven, eight years now, and something felt that it does not exist anymore. And in this last one week, it's suddenly like a huge bubble that has come off. And so it was even first like a surprise that it's still there, and probably it put it under the carpet. Father, I've been seeing this and contemplating this identity, pulled it into inquiry as well. There it wasn't even happening that fire. When surrender, who is the next? Like a little, literally like a resort, and something settled. But today it was like the same feeling or the identity, it showed up. And in my husband, and it's been there, my child. So it's very much in my face because a team type of projection, being everything that I've been hiding to speak or compare to my own self today. But I was speaking, and for the same feeling, the laxity and the same identity, the same... so it just felt that the projection is gone far beyond which is visible in my daughter and husband. And it's an identity of victim which is being fooled, being ignored or rejected or suppressed, or this comparison and everything, you know? It's like a complete full package.

Ananta

So the one that is being ignored? The one that is being ignored? Come on, okay. No specific Father is being guided more in the other group. Didn't hear the joke? No way, there was a lag. Every... not by far. As I said, the one that is being ignored is a strong identity. And then I just said, 'Okay, next question.'

Seeker

But I don't know, it is just the one being ignored or it... yeah, I mean, everything in common with the same bracket. The Father is Mr. Eleven, one who really wanted to go to see the change. And this one that wanted to go is the bigger identity.

Ananta

Yes, yes. So I feel because today when birth I was talking about it and he was getting emotional about his life as being ignored as a child and pain goes on till my child. So it just brought out a lot more than it was probably even in all of this. The one that is saying that 'I discovered one big identity for myself and I discovered that this one is really what is still here and this one should go, this one should go.' Yes? It doesn't want to go? Oh, who's stopping it? Advice to you: if you're not buying anything from it, it cannot avoid it. Were too thrilling or no, Father, what you just said is true because after work said the same thing that was probably senior. After ten minutes, the buying happened. Ship animal, and that's exactly the point where the suffering started.

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Ananta

So that's it then. Don't buy. I know something, but there is still this one who wants to let go. And this one, let go of this one that wants to let go. Don't want to let go, just let go. We follow the game because it can really feel like 'I am nobody without this one, then what am I supposed to do?' But this nobodyness is truer than the somebodyness. And without this one, in your case also the seeker identity—this one that plays the checker as a reporter, as the one who is getting insight, as the one who wants to make spiritual progress—but doing something even by letting go. Without this, you are really nobody. Now you're checking on that? No, without this one you're really nobody. Except sometimes you can play the role of mother, the role of partner; all these roles can happen. But really the crux of your identity now rests on the seeker identity, which is made up of all this spiritual checking, spiritual reporting, spiritual progress. 'What should I do spiritually? What is stuck spiritually? What am I projecting?' We'll adjust your business in the morning. This will check. Nothing happened again. Well, it seemed and I know happening to the one that is saying, 'Yes, yes, yes.' At eight in the morning, this checker thing happened. Who is this one? The same one. Don't buy what this one is selling. I know it tries to sound very meaningful what it is telling you. Since, 'Yes, yes, I am getting within sight, I see it now,' you see? But this is the reporting naturally which is going on and it is tied up with a lot of things. It's tied up with some sort of a need for validation of the report, need for validation of the spiritual insight, need for validation that something is happening to you. So this checker is not just asking for you to validate, it is asking for us to validate it. And now install again in building this. So look, it's like CC the validation, it's a tie advantage, yeah? So actually a companion for you for some time now. The entire so-called spiritual journey for you seems to be about coming to these insights and checking on them and the reporting of them. And now you're coming to this point where even this is being suggested to be let go of and let the emptiness remain like that. Even if some fear comes, but without this what will happen to me? This is how I've been leading my life for so long.

Seeker

You auspiciousness, Father, hasn't struggled to be in the santinis?

Ananta

Yes, so let's look at this struggle. Yes, so what is this? Or do some sensations are coming or what is happening?

Seeker

Father, is the movement that is... I close my analysis, silence and intimate something. This is restless in one stroke when the eyes or just there is a line of just falling three does not happen. It's like others to just let myself lose and this space of no speed.

Ananta

And that is that I'm with you together. We can see through this. So allow everything to happen and don't pick up anybody. Remain as nobody and nothing will happen to you. I am here together with you. Let all fear, all resistance, whatever is coming, sensations, let it come.

Seeker

A sample is for much of disturbance that are just like drowning and I'll just struggle to breathe.

Ananta

Don't worry, you will continue to breathe. Allow the feeling of drowning to happen and so clean, nothing will happen to you. Don't fear anything at all. We're so scared of this silence, scared of our own nothingness because the mind makes it feel like this is the empty nothing. But it is only empty of concepts, only empty of ideas of ourselves. From this all fullness comes actually. So embrace this silence. It will not harm you. You can check how the mind tries to resist this, how it comes up with ideas and thoughts to take you away from this. Some fear can be coming, allow this fear also to come. Don't fight, don't the resistance.

Seeker

Now as a college team, Diane Freeman has me constant worth the time screaming. It's ice cream, it's not... it's not happening, you know? What it's like, oh nothing. Something seems like it's screaming for survival or something like this.

Ananta

It's very common like this. Let it scream. It's okay. What is appearing? You are you, the witnessing of it now. The witness is now. In which way is that which is appearing affecting the witnessing? Doesn't a panda witnessing power Humbert doesn't stay with the witnessing like I'm gonna shine the we line with the witness part of the scene better schema. Nothing needs to become one with the witness. Who are you right now? What are you right now? Right now it's my eyelid. The surface witnessing is happening and along with it there is this assuming I can do it, I... that that's also appearing at. Yes. Now for so many years, for so long, we have been checking on the content of what is appearing and reporting from there, saying that 'This is what's happening to me now.' Although now if we are checking anything at all, if you are reporting from anything at all, they are reporting from: who are all of these appearances appearing to? Who is aware of this screaming voice? Let's check on that and report on that.

Seeker

All right family, getting to too scary or too confusing.

Ananta

Claudia, how do we can check who are the clouds appearing to? Your vision cannot be distorted by appearances. Even if the appearances seem to get cloudy, you are aware of clouds. On what happened to this awareness? Did that also become cloudy? So report on this one, not on something which is appearing. You're on mute somehow, you have to unmute.

Seeker

Well that just is... that is also exactly like we used to referring to it as that, as if there is some distance between us and that. Is that that or is it of this so much work?

Ananta

You are not semantic, you're really taking because something is saying, 'Oh that is just that only, nothing is happening to that.' See what is that, not what you are. Are you a bit of that or not able to say? Listen to me. Yes, but then what is you? Is it 'I don't know what I am' or is it 'I know I am Supriya who is aware of her awareness, but the awareness is not what Supriya is'? Is it like that? And she learn in I found, but you have to check and see if it is true. There is a Supriya that you are? If you can find it, then why do you believe it? This is my eyes, the police, and something we can't even pharmacist body. This form also appears in the same scene and that is the point of confusion that's thinking right now by so much. The body is not so much confusion. What does the body want right now? This is the thing about very innocently reporting, gets all the blame from us all the time. See, this body is the problem. Everybody could speak it written, but what am I doing is just... it's not the body so much as the idea of the person that owns the body. 'My body.' That this 'my body' is... but this one is the same one that is 'my relationship, my money, my freedom.' This one. If the body could really speak, it'd be like, 'What freedom? Why we want above? Let's talk about lunch.' Is it? I tuned it. See, not causing any trouble at all, you sitting quietly. It is the presumed owner of the body, presumed owner of our relationships, the presumed winner of our spiritual journey. This one, the non-existent one. This we cannot find and yet gets so much of our belief. That is the divine mystery.

Seeker

Father, is still something there is... do something between work. It is a station, there is a thought, there is a feeling, whatever something. Well just seen something to take a ball, some racism Fatherless.

Ananta

So what is the resistance doing to you? Asian, if the mind was not saying this has to go, this is clearly here, what are they doing to you? Injustice license of how you summed it up. This idea of this is chargin, which is like literally standing in face sort of a thing. It's a little I literally literally standing up with that from your side. Okay, it's like construction happening. Here's what you skip to the balcony and we had Sunday. If it's if it's possible yet it'd be good something. Is it I thought I want to meet get something in here? Yeah, you go. Huh, next question. Maybe I can come. I think this is exactly I see that and even this is not touching your awareness. Who are you right now? What is appearing in front of you? Who are you? Not what is your experience, who are you? What what is happening as a sensation? Because this question is being asked: who are you? I am because you are here for this. I know this because you have been in return. Those who come just something for me, 'I want happiness, I want peace, I want something something something,' those do not last very long in the satsang. Your urge must be for self-discovery, for self-realization, and not to give something to the false self, to the made-up imagined identity. It wants me to find. Is it that remains untouched through all appearances? What is it that is not coming and going? It is you. Can ever happen to that which is not exist? Nothing can ever happen to that because it isn't it. And nothing can ever happen to you in reality because you remain untouched through all appearances. The for woody and every time let's say we say that something is happening to me, it is not a reporting from the truth because it is...

Ananta

To the false self, to the made-up imagined identity it wants me to find: what is it that remains untouched through all appearances? What is it that is not coming and going? It is you. Nothing can ever happen to that which does not exist. Nothing can ever happen to that because it isn't. And nothing can ever happen to you in reality because you remain untouched through all appearances. Every time, let's say, we say that something is happening to me, it is not a reporting from the truth because it is going with some sensation which is appearing or some thought which is appearing which is saying that something is happening to me. But you are that supreme one. Nothing can happen to you. You are that to which this entire manifest creation is nothing more than a grain of sand. What can hurt you?

Ananta

So the inquiry is just a simple verification. When the thought comes and says something, just verify it and check whether it is true or not. There are only two ways to end this so-called spiritual journey. The first way is to trust the voice of your own presence which is speaking in satsang and to follow. The second way is to buy the story that the mind is telling you completely and not trusting this voice in satsang at all. These are the two ways to end it. Now, the way to prolong it is to listen to both half-half. If you listen to both half-half, then it will seem like a journey more and more—a little bit of this, a little bit of that, a little bit of this, a little bit of that.

Ananta

So I am saying to you that there is no Supriya and nothing has really ever happened to you in reality. Now, are you going to give this to the mind to check or will you check for yourselves? Yes, Tara? No Supriya. Then there can be no problem. Drop all allegiance with your mind. Drop all belief from this one. Allow everything to come and go. Don't fear any sensation. Don't fear fear itself. See how the mind is not a true representative of the truth, and the voice that speaks in satsang is your own true voice, your own presence speaking. You are untouched. You are unborn, undying. You have no desire, no aversion. There is no bondage or freedom for you. You are that which is not coming or going, that which witnesses all comings and goings. You witness the birth and death of this universe within you. All realms are born and dissolve.

Ananta

And even these words cannot come close to defining your true glory. Don't believe that voice which tells you that you are just a bundle of flesh and blood, the voice which tells you that you can want something and you can need something, the voice which says you have to get somewhere, you have to become something. You had your fun playing as this. Now, with open eyes, check on what you truly are and don't wait for the false voice to give you a report. Stay with what you see for yourselves. That which is undying must be here now. That which we call God, if it is true, it must be here now. If you don't believe any ideas about what God should be, then the experience of God is here now. And you are that which cannot be labeled even as God. You are that which cannot be known phenomenally, and you know this not from a thought, not from your intellect. You are prior to this. And you are aware of this without the hypnosis of your mind which relies on your own belief. You can no longer pretend to be this non-existent person. There is no such thing as darkness; even that which appears dark appears in the light of your own true self. Stop playing with these tiny ideas about yourselves. Let's play together as one. Go with this voice, my child, not with this one, because this playground is too small for us now.

Ananta

And now this so-called journey that we have all undertaken will only truly stop with the realization of the Self and the dropping of the false beliefs about ourselves. But many times along the way, it can seem to take some pit stops, either because the mind is saying, 'I will never get it, so I give up,' or the mind is saying, 'I got it now.' So these are the pit stops. It says, 'I discovered the truth, I found it.' There is no truth something, and you can still smell if it is mentalism. So then that can be a pit stop. The same thing can be spoken experientially. We see that for that which is non-phenomenal, even the concept of truth or false does not apply. Sometimes it is the spiritual concepts which are the longer pit stops, and the mind attaches to the seemingly glorious spiritual concept. That could be a very long pit stop because it gives the illusion of permanency. Illusion of permanency will not be the end of suffering.

Ananta

I remember actually there was a time here many years ago that there was a sense that I know it all now. I just know it, I just know it. I could speak it, and I was just repeating my Guru's words, just a very good replica. And the sense was there that I know it all. And when these attachments started to cause suffering—work attachments, family attachments—they started to cause suffering. I realized that there was so much suffering which went on in spite of knowing all the concepts. So it is suffering which pulls us out from the pit stop again, and suffering which confirms to us: not this, not even this, not even this. Then we see for ourselves that no amount of mental knowing is the end of suffering. In fact, with more mental knowing, it seemed like there is more suffering actually, because the world and the appearance is constantly colliding with that which we seem to know mentally.

Ananta

So it is the true seeing, the true realization, the true Knowingness (capital K) which is not attached to any concepts. And this is the discovery. Then we find that this Knowingness cannot be attacked. There is no right or wrong in this; it just is. And instead of attachment, it brings openness. And instead of pride or humility, it brings neutrality. No rush to make any proclamations, to any conclusions coming from the sense of hurry or need for validation. This rush, rush, rush to get it is not true. Mental understanding of even spiritual concepts is only fresh conditioning. Knowing, true understanding, does not rely on any ideas, does not rely on the past.

Ananta

So I said we will have a short satsang today because Garima is traveling for a month in the afternoon now. For a month she will be away, and I feel like it would be good if we spent some time before she goes. So with your permission, we will end satsang early today. Thank you all very much for being in satsang today. Satguru Mooji Ki Jai. Thank you so much, Clare, for moderating today. Thank you again. This is my far away from me now. Thank you so much. We can end the broadcast now.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.