Don't Identify with Something Untrue - 26th December 2017
Saar (Essence)
Ananta guides seekers to recognize their inherent, limitless essence as the witnessing consciousness. He encourages letting go of the 'personal coconut' identity to abide as the vast, boundaryless ocean of being.
You are finding out that you are the ocean, and now you are trying to fill it into a coconut.
The truest knowledge is just the letting go of the false.
Your being is limitless; it is unharmed by all experiences.
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Namaste everyone. Everyone, welcome to satsang today. Sri Mooji Baba ki Jai. Welcome, welcome to this class. What if all that you could ever imagine wanting, and much more, was already yours? In fact, was already you? Would that be the end of seeking? Now, we can't put the cart before the horse, okay? You must come to this insight before you pick up the concept 'I give up seeking' or 'I stopped seeking.' It must be your tasted discovery that you are that which contains all, and you yourself are uncontained. I see that many of you are having this insight, but the sticky habit of trying to apply it personally still comes back. As I was saying yesterday, you're finding out that you are the ocean, and now you are trying to fill up this ocean in the coconut. You are discovering your limitlessness, and then you are asking, 'How does this help me?'
So these are just remnants of what happened because everything has been applied to this personal 'me' for so long. It can seem like even this infinite, uncontained existence you want to own as some body-mind organism. It cannot be this way, and that can seem very uncomfortable for a bit as you try to keep one foot in the limitless ocean and the other foot in the identity of being a body-mind. It can seem very uncomfortable as you are learning to let go of all identification. When you do not have a notion about yourself, what is your natural state? When you're not trying to get something or hold on to something, where are you? This way makes it very simple. Someone said that the truest knowledge is just the letting go of the false.
What if I told you that the truth is completely apparent to you right now? It's completely apparent to you, but not your interpretation. This life you've been watching this movie with subtitles. The movie has always been perfect as it is—not even perfect—but the subtitles have been telling you that you are something bound, you are something limited, you are something that was born and something that will die. This notion of death is something innately repulsive; something doesn't accept it. Even in those cultures where these kinds of satsangs are not there, there are other concepts of resting in peace after death, or life after death, or resurrection, because something in your heart knows that what you are in essence was not born and will not die.
This essence has not gone anywhere; it is your very essence right now. How to get to this essence? Find out that which does not come and go. Find that out which itself witnesses all things but itself doesn't have any attributes or qualities. For some time, bring the focus to this witnessing, and for some time, don't be so concerned with that which is witnessed. Move away from the content of the appearances for a bit, because this content is constantly changing, but your essence is not. Your Self is not a thing, but it is not nothing. If it were nothing, then you would be senseless, wouldn't you? You would not have an essence; then you would have no Self. But intuitively you can sense that that is not right. I exist, and there is a root of my existence, the source of my existence, which is undeniable. This qualityless, undeniable—is there anything else like this? This is your own Self.
Bhagavan Ramana Maharshi said that the most important question is to ask 'Who am I?' And when he was asked to explain how to ask 'Who am I?', he said find that out which witnesses all things. If the thought is coming with an answer, find out who witnesses that thought. If some resistance is coming, some emotion is coming, some other sensation is coming, what witnesses that? What is aware of your sight and your sound? All sense perceptions you are aware of, but you yourself are unperceived. Now, I trust that most of you are having this insight and have had this insight, and you will also see that unless you pick up a concept about yourself, unless you pick up a story about yourself, there is no notion of personal suffering.
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So when the great Sages said 'abide as the Self' or 'remain as the Self,' it only meant: don't pick up the pretense of the forms. Don't identify with something which is not true. You don't interpret any sensation as your boundary; it is just an interpretation. Don't believe that any perception can contain you. Allow all things to come and go. Don't become in opposition to anything, and become more spacious than this space, which has no judgment about anything that is appearing into it. Your being is limitless; it is unharmed by all experiences. Don't begin to choose what gets your attention now. Whatever has to come in this life, let it come. Everything shines in your own light. Nothing is appearing out of the will of consciousness, which is your own being. This light is supremely intelligent. The universe does not make mistakes, and it has perfect timing.
More spacious than space you are. Now, consciousness is asking itself: how long do you want to play with these mock boundaries that you have believed about yourself? How long do you want to play with the notion that you are something? The truth of your enormity, of your being, it contains a multitude of universes. This is your very experience this moment. Consciousness is reminding itself: how would it be to live without boundaries, without emotions, without position, without judgment, without resistance? You as natural, effortless openness, which is your very nature.
The beautiful Indian scripture, Yoga Vasistha, tells a story of this mythical creature who's always suffering because this mythical creature has one thousand hands, and each of these hands has a weapon with which it is hitting itself. You know what is this mythical creature? It is your own mind with the thousand concepts. And as you're dropping each of these, you are finding that you are running out of ways to suffer. Now, maybe the creature also believed that these concepts are helping it: 'How will I live without my hands?' So my invitation for you is to try it out. See if it is possible to live positionlessly. You might realize that these were crutches that you never needed, that life was much greater than your idea. And even if the notion is 'I can't do it' or 'I have done it,' even these you give up. If the notion is 'I don't want to go that far,' forget about it. If the notion is 'I don't want to end up like some crazy sage on the streets of Tiruvannamalai,' forget it. I promise you that the taste of this life, unmixed with your concepts, is much greater. It's much more universal than the taste of this life which you are trying to contain with your ideas about it, which you are trying to control. In any case, how is that control thing working out?
Okay, since we're going on a bit of a break after this, if somebody has a question to ask you... how do I bring my focus more to the one that is witnessing it?
Yes, so let's do this together. Yes. So you tell me, what is being perceived to start with? Take as much time as you like. Start with anything that is in your field of perception right now.
It's just kind of a sense of beingness and energy now.
Very good. So it could be right off the bat using the sense of existence, of being. But if there could be some confusion about what it is, whether it is something energetic, either is fine. It's not so open; that's just the sense of being and life. There's some energy there. Whatever it might be, what can we say about that which witnesses that? So if I was to say there is nothing witnessing it, would that be accurate?
No, but I feel my mind is saying actually...
That's okay. Let the mind also be witnessed. Don't worry so much about what it is saying. Whatever is coming up as a perception for you, find out what witnesses that. So if the two options were that you are witnessing it or Shanti is witnessing it, what would you pick?
Why does that seem more truthful than it being secondhand witnessing now? And you say that is only this is... is that an inference or is this some sense? I feel there's some insight there. Am I trying to do this myself there? It's like I do, I keep asking. So what it seems, and so I get like flitting. It's like my attention can for this tiny moment look back, look inward, and again do something else.
Exactly. It just seems so... yes, it can seem like that, you see. But whether attention is on an object or seems to be returning to that form, what witnesses this movement of attention? Or is that also flitting? Maybe it is simpler than what you are believing it to be. Not maybe; actually it is simpler than what you are believing it to be. It is not even about the functioning of attention or trying to control attention. It's just a matter of checking to see that whether attention is on some content or running about to find some content or just completely resting at all, what is aware of this adventure?
So the frustration is that the focus or the attention keeps... the focus keeps going with you. The focus is the attention. So I'm actually told you do attention completely, then there's the feeling...
Okay, let's do this together. Let your attention go wherever it wants. No mind to control it at all. If it wants to go to thoughts, let it go to thoughts. Emotions, an emotion. If it wants to rest on your being, it can rest on your being. If it is just all over the place, it is completely fine. Are you aware now? Whatever attention might be doing, is there ever a moment of unawareness?
If you're aware that you're stuck, it's very constraining. So this is plain. It's like this.
You see stuckness. There is some resistance to answer. There is some... words are not coming. It's a play of intention happening. Sometimes you want to say yes, but the word is not coming now. All this can happen now. You have to be there to see all of this. It doesn't matter what answer is coming up; it is already answered in your own insight that you see all of this, but you are aware of all of this. Even this indecision.
It's a little bit... yeah, it's like what you say makes sense, and yet for some reason sometimes it comes, it's more clear, you know, that yes, I'm aware of it. And sometimes it's like it seems only from inference that I can even say it because the attention is... even though it's like there's been some sense of spaciousness there, but it's like a breeze. Still, the attention is going out to some false sense.
Nothing new. So we're not even at the realm of attention now. Wherever attention is going to, it's fine. The beauty of awareness is there. Even to say 'I am unaware' actually implies that I am aware that it is that great, inescapable. But what will you say? Not to come to any conclusions from ignorance and talking of it. So what we have to do is use this to come to this checking. So when I say 'I am stuck,' am I aware of this stuckness, or am I including stiffness? What if I were to say that our task for the next few minutes is to become unaware? Don't be aware. Try to be unaware, and you will not be able to do it. I mean, 'I became unaware for a moment.' All of you, don't try to avoid awareness, push it away. Don't be aware.
So it just seems that when the awareness is like... I know, I know it's there, and yet it doesn't seem to be what I'm tasting, you know? What I'm tasting seems to be...
Yes, does it have a taste? And that is the beauty of it, because every taste we get bored of. This tasteless awareness just is. Still, still others... I don't know, it was just this feeling of that I'm lost in phenomena even though what you're saying is true. I know it's true and I can see it, but there's this... and it's old.
So I know you're not going anywhere. Try to get lost in phenomena. Lose yourself as much as you can.
Well, yeah, I feel like already, you know...
Is that what you're seeing, or are you relying on something that happened a few minutes ago?
It's what I'm seeing because I'm aware.
So every part of you now is phenomenal. To be completely lost in phenomena would mean that everything is phenomenal. Now, that which is witnessing this phenomenon, has that also become phenomenal?
I know you're not going anywhere and try to get lost in phenomena. Use yourself as much as you can.
Well, yeah. I feel like already, you know, is it what you're seeing or are you relying on something that happened a few minutes ago?
It's what I'm seeing because I'm more so. Every part of you now is phenomenal. To be completely lost in phenomena would mean that there is everything is phenomenal. Yeah. Now, that which is witnessing this phenomenon, that has also become phenomenal? Can it, if you were to try and push it out?
But still, I feel unable to bring my focus to it because there's nothing to be seen.
Yes. When I say focus, I don't necessarily mean this in the sense of bringing, keeping, or trying to force our attention into this. I'm just saying, oh, one moment, just check: what witness is this? Let the question answer itself to whatever work is needed to be done. You don't force anything at all. Which part of you is now completely contained in the phenomena like this?
Simplicity. Although I can sometimes recognize it, it's it seems it's stealing, right? Like I'm getting very caught. I, you know, this like you say, so don't pick up the concept. Still, it's like more of my attention is there and I'm picking up concepts all the time. Sometimes I can be just really lost in the person. I'm just feeling lost, I suppose. I'm taking guidance of like, how do I, what do I do next? And yet I know you say there's no doing, but I've also heard like your guidance if there's anything either.
So this inside you, get it. This is what I've been saying, that you're finding that that is something which is limitless here now. To try to contain it in your life, oh, don't even worry for some time about the implications of this for your life. This is what I was saying: world, ocean, and coconut. Don't worry for a bit about the life of this world, what happens in it. Just be the inside, unmolested, with no implication. It does not have to mean anything at all. Or anything even right now.
That insight feels like something very small. At other times, it's not like something very big, expansion. But anything that comes at these videos...
So don't resist anything that has come. So if you feel small or if you feel the expansion is right now, within what space is the smaller or more expansive? If this oneness of it inside something which is larger, get used to anything into the black coming within you. The smaller is the lightness, the blackness on this is perceived within your own being. No, at least what I said is that don't worry about what implications your insight is bringing to the life of. Let the life of its own run only, even if it feels like a design in defiance of the time it is. And so because you're telling us don't pick up these concepts, if it feels natural, if it feels like this itself is becoming a struggle, and you let that be. Because what is happening is that you're having these moments of insight. Very quickly the mind could come and say, 'Well, what does this mean for me? My life has not changed. I'm still mostly like this, almost like that.'
And yeah, I've been feeling like I've just come and sitting in Satsang and how that is too much pressure, you know, to say I am not making proper use.
It can make proper use. It is just that the words themselves, if it's anybody's fault, it is mine. This, they have to carry that there is really nothing that you can do about this. This, that's why even today when I was speaking, just speaking to that which is, even prefaced it by saying consciousness is a body, consciousness. As long as we take on some notion of the doership, and that one is nothing to do with this.
But there is the one, isn't there? The one thing I can do is this keep checking. You're saying anything that I can see actually can be turned out, turned into something. But the check, aggregating, I'm not checking enough. Oh, this is what I was told in Satsang to do. And actually, there is no template for this freedom.
Sometimes words come up because the predominant condition in the room or the listening to this could be a particular way, and sometimes the opposite is said because the condition could be opposite. To come to neutrality, like I was saying, that sometimes the back has to come from the right and so have to come from the left. Now, what can happen many times is that anything that has been heard in Satsang, it becomes a way to make yourself feel guilty. You're not adequate enough for not doing things. If I was to say to you, 'Forget about it with the checker there,' you will make this into a checking, saying, 'Are you forgetting?' Would you say it is easier if you were to let this be my problem? You get on the Guru train. He said when you get off the train and it's going to Trivandrum, don't look everyone in the net and say, 'Am I hitting somewhere else?' Who's you? Just the engine driver. But the mind seems to have us in a hole like this, that no matter what a load has been trying to make it, it co-opts that and says, 'No, this not doing this well enough,' or 'This is not yet happening for you,' or 'This is really not working.' Sometimes we just say, 'Okay, I'm at the Guru train to take me where it was.' Okay? All this pressure is make a little child. Children also, actually, they are actually asking a lot of resistance. And the best part of this, there is no how to surrender. Even the surrendering then is the Master's problem.
You know, like I think it's until yes, just being this feeling like I have to be anything at all videos.
When I said that you have a lifetime pass, you have a lifetime card at the Leela, could just walk into it when you buy. Don't you don't feel the fury. What is the message? Best part of the surrender is that you completely and it's almost it is a temptation to say and honored even whether it is. You don't need to self-censor anything. You don't have to speak anything with intention like 'I have to speak this' or however moves this mouth. Any other question?
They all said thank you for the sharing. Same feelings here.
Yes, forget about and it could come soon. So don't forget about that. My daughter is, she just be on an iPad, she won't move. But every time she I cross her and she like, 'Why it is going without giving me enough?' Um, you can't get up when this give me yourself. No, she has to keep. Actually, the fact is that any many, many master keys are there to this freedom. So there is no master key which is applicable for every expression of consciousness. It has not made this game so simple. So you must never feel I'm with you, okay? Just like in yoga, everybody is made differently. You cannot benchmark the flexibility of another. They might be most anxious that body unless flexibility. You can never say, 'How is it that another is able to use this pointing and come to this, there is not able to use this pointing and come to that?' There will be, it all depends on what is the conditioning that consciousness is playing you. Maybe that's why have to company to try to go three hours so that in the 15 hours of Satsang every day, every week, maybe something just get ahold will explode or not. One golden rule which is more or less applicable for anything that is said in Satsang and to all of you is that if anything you hear in Satsang makes you feel unworthy or guilty, just forget about it. It is not mindful for that you. How would it be? He constantly I am saying you are not to do a and then at the same time convincing you that you are not being worthy enough, you are not trying hard enough or doing the right things. It's not that. This is various ways in which consciousness is reminding itself of itself. That is the reason why in our first printed book it came out, you call it consciousness speaking with consciousness, so that it doesn't give this impression that some personal intervention is needed. You can either do it personally, you cannot own it personally because there is no such thing as a person. Expecting an ocean to do something is impossible. I used to take this example of the, I don't know if you imagine yourself to be whatever you want, imagine yourself to be a young man, old lady, and just believe enough thoughts about this imagination. Can that one even get you a glass of water? It exists, imagine, it's just an ocean. So our separation is just an ocean. And when consciousness will be coming with this motion, it will be done with this. So you can surrender resolution. Yes, to surrender is notional. Coming to motionlessness is to be surrendered. Okay, Javi wants to ask one question. Okay, now you can come again.
Hello, yes I can, you know, yes very good. Is it okay now with this new connection? If both of us are unmuted it is still quite manageable. You can have it. I should I'm using yours, Chiku. It should be fine without it also. Under this, like underline experience, experience the sense of separation and it is like feeling that's the only cost where all this even all kind of even sense of progressing or not progressing and doing effort at all. Underline that, underlying belief of separation that whatever is experiencing and this physical form where this experiences experiencing. Although I have when I look there's like seeing that for even this sensation or this his experience inside of me, this body's experience inside of me, but even that is a sinner. That belief that this is I, I am separate, and this would have what been experienced a separate and probably a from at all this even desire to see or desire to not getting or I should be in certain environment and that all sense of towards being doing comes from that I am in control of somehow. I can feel some I'm in control then whatever appearing where I have role to play in that appearance somehow. And that's like because of sense that I should be in our environment or please fear it more can marinate within me your sense of this thing so that like this is the only time but even this underlying belief in separation is gone now in this moment.
It is mom, is there underlying belief right? Oh, okay. Hello, I guess oh now you should be able to unmute yourself. Before the motion came, I guess there is, was there an underlying belief like right now? Like I've been doing these days now, now, now, now, now, hey it is going just naturally. So suppose you forgot about this notion of Adaline, then where is the duality? You cannot move yourself. Oh yes, so the underlying bill might be to come. That is also this knows money. There is no duality, no separation unless you have a notion. And there is without duality, without this notion of separation, there is not even desire, there is not even to worship. So even the one thing of aha moment as a result of consciousness believing itself to be wanting or something what is missing naturally right now you.
Good morning all over the mind. Very good idea. Read this, I also saw beautiful message he posted for me as a thank you idea. Happy to hear right now.
If I were to say that in Mozambique somebody is having malrotation, you will feel like you also have it. So go to the video options equal that is the current state and then this seeming they all kind of okay right now too. If I say just don't be concerned about this aspect at all, better right now to be free from this inquiry is be easily from all the whys. Why is it lengthwise, like length is why is this happening to me? And if you feel like you're not free from them, then don't worry about why you're not now. Just what you create is this feeling of youthfulness and then you disagree together. Let's just even that you you you you give me how question from Itamar.
Itamar, Itamar, and you can tell me if I'm not mounting you. Can you hear me?
I can hear you well, my dear. Just split classes and all sorts of things. Thank you, sir.
I wanted to bring forward the, I guess, the experience of being agitated easily. I guess I could put it that way, or with family and children. Coming from some kind of, you know, blissful experience, contentment mostly, and then in the family somehow very short. Thank you, no patience for sometimes.
Actually, one of us can contemplate this together, which my family has the same complaint with me also. Now why if...
Can you hear me? I can hear you well, my dear.
Just split classes and all sorts of things. Thank you, Father. I wanted to bring forward the experience of being agitated easily, I guess I could put it that way, or with family and children. Coming from some kind of, you know, blissful experience, contentment mostly, and then in the family, somehow very short. No patience for sometimes.
Actually, one of us can contemplate this together, which my family has the same complaint with me also. Now, why? If I tell her something, she is always saying, 'Would you have said so?' There is something about family relationships which sort of brings our identity up to the forefront, and it is not unnatural, you know. Many of the sages have said like this. I said whenever you feel you are enlightened, spend a weekend with your family. It's good. It's good to have this kind of contemplation.
And I were walking on the terrace one day, after-dinner walk, and she said to me, 'How is it that your interaction with me is different from your interaction with the rest of the Sangha?' And I realized you to open something up for me here, where I saw that I should be able to see even this life partner now that I've had for 23, 24 years with freshness every time we meet. And I won't say that in this play it happened completely, but I felt a lot more openness is there now, and to end up meeting a lot more with a lot more freshness and openness than what I was doing earlier. So this is the sticky part of the play, and also don't be too hard on yourselves. Yeah, thank you.
But it's good that you are shining your light on it and you're seeing that, yes, still in this play, real distinctions are being made. And as you shine your light on this, you will see that everybody, everybody starts getting more and more included in your universality. All of us have a different experience with our families, and the family also, in the play of the world, what comes from there also can be very different. Like sometimes if you become just like we are in Satsang and if you are like, 'Oh, you know, you are trying to be the Satguru with us' and all that. If you're being regular, they are like, 'Oh, but you are being different from how you are.' So you just have to, at one level, shine your light on this, whether there is still some identity playing out from here. And as you shine in this light, then also trust what is arising. Don't be tough on yourself. Don't be so hard on yourself and say, 'Oh, why am I being like this or not being like that?' More naturalness will come in all our relationships.
So, and it's easier without the expectation of hundred percent. It will be hundred percent peaceful, be hundred percent something. There is no hundred percent in this phenomenal world. Everything has some spice and so on mixed into it. And so it is. Maybe we can close today, sending all my love to you and your families and everyone that comes into your presence. Let's send all our blessings, our love to this entire creation, all the beings in this creation. May the Satguru's grace touch everyone's life. My Master Mooji, through his grace, bring these truths to all beings. Let there be peace, let there be peace, let there be peace. Om Namah Shivaya. Thank you all so much for being in Satsang today.
So cushy. Mooji ki Jai. Love you. Thank you.
Thank you all for your good wishes and wish you all the same. Love you, love you, love you. You know, all these things like 'you' and 'I' are actually ultimately our conception, but and yet there is some beauty in this play of 'you' here and extending blessings to everyone. So let's enjoy this play for what it is. So much love to all of you.
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