Contemplation on the Ashtavakra Gita Ch. 18, Vs. 87-95 and Q&A - 14th September 2017

And some can even ask this question: 'Okay, all of this is phenomenal, all of this is an appearance. Are you something which is even included in just that appearance, or are you something that is even beyond that? Where does your boundary end?' So if all your experience is included in that one being, even that is that limitation. That's it. What is it? The sages have given us many clues. What witnesses even this? With the sake of even this appearance, you see that I am aware of my presence within which this entire play is going on. That which is aware of presence—for that, ultimately even presence comes and goes. So you're not sleeping on this way of normal. So it's really a stretching out. It's really a stretching out from this very tiny seeming limitation. Now, from this perspective that 'I am just the body,' you see the body and the mind, seeing that all of this experience is within my being, within consciousness, to seeing that I am beyond even this being. Even 'I am' comes and goes. I am the presence, even that empty of all attributes, empty of qualities. From here can we say these things, that the sage is unconcerned? Why? Because it is just both with the notion of consciousness movement. It is the light of the projector. The movie is changing, but you, eternal witness, you remain untouched.

Now, what can happen here is that the mind does not have a... mind can only be little quality. If I tell you, 'Imagine that,' how will you do? Imagine some dark empty space. But don't even the mind be dark empty space, just nothing, not even there. When you try to imagine some white transparent things truly empty of quality, then you might have sometimes more quality. Mind cannot fathom it. And yet what you're discovering about yourself through this only less tension. That is why the mind struggles with this. But really from God, find it in that we use, used to finding, 'Have I got to the Self?' Still there is more clarity that needs to come in direct admission because it is simply like this: you will be completely clear that it is, and yet you will not be able to find the quality to it. The only discovery is like this. This is the key. Listen. If the Self is the treasure, then the clue to this treasure hunt is this: what is the only discovery you make which is empty of all qualities yet cannot be denied that it is? Very few. The only discovery that you make which is undeniable that it is, and yet it is empty of qualities. Over the flute affected, 'I'm the witness.' Is that this is all things? Can the Self be witnessed? The religion says, 'Can the perceiver be perceived?' That which is perceiving this world, that which is perceiving all to another. Our mind gets stuck with this because it only fathoms. So mind will say, 'Okay, it was nothing to the witness. It is nothing.' It will she comes in being misunderstood.

You the mother type, and I saw a message on Facebook the other day when they say, 'Now awareness is a function of the waking state.' We started with the possible options, obviously came to false conclusions. Awareness is a function of the waking state? So therefore those who say that you must just be aware, they are saying they are completely wrong because how can you be sleep deprived? I never heard such a thing. So then who is aware of sleep first? Because how it is understood in other terms of any idea like this: are you aware that that is some sort of the perception? Knowing that is being used as a way. Even saying is that what witnesses even consciousness here pointing to is that which is beyond all states. It is not a functioning of the waking state because if awareness was the functioning of a waking state, how would you be able to even say something like 'sleep state'? 'I was aware of sleep.' Is it? Sleep is just an idea that you are making. Dream state, other states, are they decided? She has very weakly meditative experiences, so she has those. Do not call it the waking state. Who's aware of those states? That witness is this. That witness that is witnessing this is witnessing the other meditative experience.

It is not a functioning of the waking state because if awareness was the functioning of a waking state, how would you be able to even say something like sleep? Is it that sleep is just an idea that you are making? Dream state, other states—are they besides you? She has very weekly meditative experiences; she has those. Do not call it the waking state. Who's aware of those? Who is that witness? It is this that witness that is witnessing this, is witnessing the other meditative experiences also. It is witnessing, see, but it itself is empty of form. You see, you can't see what is there, yet there must be something which witnesses the absence of all phenomena. But it's not a 'something.' So this to the mind is, 'Oh, you came to satsang to find some peace, happiness, or something like this, but now you are being told that you are nothing.'

That is why this sort of direct path, it's real time. In this world of six or seven billion people, it doesn't seem really attractive because we are still also given an active still-ism, that way of wanting something for themselves phenomenally. 'I come into you, I give you something, you can't touch it here.' But this enchantment... but I don't even charge money. I'm giving you points upon points, don't touch it. I can't. I had a long talk yesterday, which was talking to her and saying, 'What do you do?' She said, 'So that is one scary question.' Something that we can be done, but I share it from my own experience, a little bit of scripture. So what do you get as well? You don't get that idea of... don't be so quick to do this. This compact, which is not known just because we cannot fathom it, we cannot make a concept around it and say, 'This is the Self.' You see that in the recognition of these truths, we find this Self.

And you will find such peace emerging even in your outwardly life in this world because as consciousness is coming to this recognition of itself, you play in a way that all of this only creation will you become just a beautiful play. This fear of death, the fear of something happening to you, will start to become more and more laughable. I do think I see almost a reason I've been saying all the Self cannot be snatched by anything that might appear in this world. I cannot be tempted, no matter what happens, not a scratch by Maya. Up until then, you at this... a tradition becomes something that will be improved. Our life, such wonders of joy to revisit of your presence, and yet you will be unattached even to this.

That's what our of time what can happen is that it's a secret identity. We get tired. Secret identity starts to get tired, then it is looking for some absolute truth. So it is saying, 'So inside there is no awareness for Gators on, just you just wasting your time.' It can seem like it is attractive because it already feels like, 'But I'm not getting anywhere.' But even in this sense of relief which can come home, I tell you, you will find that your sense of limited identity can continue. You think to yourself as body-mind, so then you have desire. The ideas of the ocean, like you of separation, is bound to perpetuate suffering. So the end of suffering cannot be found just by concepts. This into till the inside, intuitive recognition. I don't settle for anything less.

This output which you come and say to me, 'I feel like I am the body-mind, but it's clear to me that I am not.' To do, I'm not going to. And if you continue to be, you should know exactly for them. We want October tonight, we might find something we believed in these painkillers from time to time. But didn't you come to this here, into the recognition of the false idea that you believe about ourselves? I'm not working out from this, and more and more I cannot get myself to say it's okay. Why? Because I'm showing to you that there is no prison. And if you come to me tomorrow and say, 'Prison is there, it is a beautiful sea, it's been painted white and these ugly black bars which I was imagining in the ISM has been painted multicolored, rainbow color. Enjoy my rainbow-colored prisons.' Let me settle for that. It does imply actually no multicolored feel like it's a step up. That took you to feel like it's a step up, it's not in the way of what we is from here to satsang for half-measures.

Sometimes I seriously think I realize that we just got a new multicolored prison museum piece. It's a good change from whatever was experiencing earlier. I know it can't even back check if they really bound to this very idea. Fizzing that much beyond what your mind can fathom, you want not to be on this play of time and space. How to find this now? Suppose I call and the link summit on this point to be, but suppose that you came with the belief that you are in a prison, you're in a box in a jail. Mr. Cuozzo, oh, there are many different ways which have been prescribed in this world. Although we get out of this prison, so some will say to get out of prison you need a lot of muscle, pick the box. So every day what you have to do is push out these varying 22 shots.

Some will say the problem is actually that your mind is not pure, that's why you're always thinking about the prison. Stop thinking about the prison. I'll give you a replacement, something else to think about. That could be something to keep your mind away from prison homes. This, let me change the quality of Yama, give me something else to do. And for most of you, see, mean crazy noise, these things seem attractive. Now there are some paths which are the direct comments which tell you that so all you have to do is find out whether you actually are visible. And because the conditioning is so strong, that much I'm clear about it: I am a person. That much I'm clear about. So tell me what kind of person I need to become so the mechanics to escape this crystal here.

The question is: Are you the prisoner? Is there a prison? Both questions are the same. They might sound ocean. Are you a prisoner or is there a prison? The same question again. Except this question, all those who come to this point where we learning with the heart is for this to stop you. Who is it that I have? Am I the prisoner? Am I the person who wants freedom? Am I the called that I've got the ganimard missile? It all began because once you hear, once you have the knowledge from inside, intuitive insight, that you are not this limited one, then what part do you mean? So this illumination, this recognition, is this discovery that I have time and space and beyond it is bondage for me. Once you see this, make somebody complexes or have a nice set of scissors for your... I'm not putting down any part. I'm not saying that me and the path will ride along many times to come to this openness to accept this truth.

It can seem like you need to do some spiritual push-ups, like 'I need to give some, get some peace in the mind,' which I need something. All these are useful along the way because they can all this sense of openness. Each a mind can come to the sense of openness for the inquiry. But if the path is being confused as getting us to something as a limited entity—'If I do my hundreds a little push-ups every day I will become super super sit down'—leave to the idea of a limited ego trying to become something special. That is where I kiss them all the direct that if you see misname where there's a rope or you feel there is a sleep where actually visible, there are no real methods of how to deal with this. This being reminded, but see carefully, it just to go there is nothing to feel. Once you see that it's a rope, I have a solution that the speak will lose its poison. I already see it, so why do I need to be with this?

The reason why here we focus on the recognition of what is truly here and it is easier attitude, there's a little bit of openness. It is easier to deal with the boat as a rule. So this, it's not difficult. Don't let your mind convince you that, 'Oh, because is ID only if you are attracted to this, therefore it must be because it's very difficult.' It's the easiest if we want to do more difficult because a condition is that we have been told, well, it's already what you want to do then if you like it's not valuable because of that. It's direct because already what you are, which is simply looking. It's like this: Am I in prison or is there a prison here? Who needs freedom? Is my bondage father?

Father, I am dying. Nobody at home, nobody at home. I am dying. First it is very serious panic attack, Father, very very severe. And they have started coming again. They were not there, no, they have started coming again. I don't know. We started such a feeling of the limited this now as much as possible.

Difficult what I am going to say now. This, the scale of what is happening is some perceiving won't allow your mind to make something out of a tentative. See the sensation, and from there if you have to, how much space is the panic taking inside you? Nothing further. It is now taking air in space. The experiencer actually is very frustrated. We do it slowly now again what I'm saying and this is notice that they convinced working set of sensations and I know that nothing is bigger than your being. How the interpretive mind can come and bigger than now what you're seeing is that this panic by itself is not so big useful. You see nothing, but maybe I shouldn't go that far is yet. It is still experience as something. You won't come into a denial of that experience, but notice that in the experiencing where this sensation is being experienced, it is not actually bound by just this experience.

There is space for this voice to be heard, there is space for the sensations to be felt. All this existence still continues to play out. Now it is natural for tension to go in this way to that it seems to be causing discomfort. So what we are simply doing in this exercise is to see whether attention can quietly also look at that which is around this sensation without buying or went to the story about it. More attack, but there is a minor attack with a panic attack. It is a combination of all of this is bigger than you are being. So we are not to come into a denial of any sensation, which is to see that this appearance might seem strong but actually compared to the entirety of my existence to exist another a still exists another appearance.

So stay with your insight about this important debate anything especially about the seeker, frustrated seeker. Unless you see an entity sitting there which is the seeker, don't give it any importance for by any story. Don't resist any sensation. I mean open to all that is appearing and whenever you find some sense of space, look at that space which surrounds the sensation. We will find that in your being a million such sensations come, but we cannot take you unless you believe an idea about the human words will always have a lot of sensations to deal with. Consciousness is playing in that wheel. A diverse set of sensations will be experienced. What will happen is that our judgments about temporal change occurring is actually a judgment beam is the sensation okay? So rest like this for a bit then before we insert them today.

I'd like to hear from you. A wise one has no sense of mind. To him, earth, stone, and gold are the same. The knots of his heart have unraveled. He knows neither ignorance nor masala. He is excellent. Mary wish him to every wise one has those hands of mine. To him, earth, stone, and gold at the scene. Again, there is hope for misunderstanding this. This is a... so it might feel like once I see that there is no separation, it might feel like this whole world becomes like one luring a stone and gooey. We're still talking about attachment Israel in the sense of mine is taken away, then whatever is it appearing is accepted as Barsky at the facade from God the currents within the pew. Then they're not picking and choosing our next experience, not saying those things. Jesus is very good. Mind is constantly proposing something next is when lunch is here the mind is already thinking about I don't know because what's next? Okay, came to this experience now what's next? So this holding on to appearances saying that I want something to be and I want or I don't want them to hear this is a misunderstanding that which is appearing and

Look at the facade from God. The currents within the pew, then they're not picking and choosing our next experience, not saying those things. Jesus is very good. Mind is constantly proposing something next. When lunch is here, the mind is already thinking about, I don't know, because what's next? Okay, I came to this experience, now what's next? So, this holding on to appearances, saying that 'I want something to be' and 'I want' or 'I don't want them to be here,' this is a misunderstanding. That which is appearing and disappearing is all moving with the supreme intelligence of consciousness. And I say more simply: God is the ultimate chef and He is not messing up your recipe. Oh sweetie, we have this moaning attitude: 'God, why are you doing this to me?' The hash out of our life. And then you start to see that everything is here of consciousness. Then you will find that the boundary language you have defined between yourself and God itself starts to fade away. Then you come to a point where you see one experience, the one doer. Then one day you might even come to this point where you see that which is either the play of this over-experience. Even consciousness comes and goes as far as I am concerned in reality. Again, I'm saying all the clues for this discovery are presently all at zero. What is that witness that witnesses all things? And that itself, you please, what is it that I mean? The unchanging. Everything else is changing. Anything the changing, what you mean? The unchanging. Pointing at the same thing. All these clues. The only thing is unclear. You're always up to the vendor is: don't expect to find a thing. Expect to find something sitting there itself. I will come to the Self and maybe it will, but not in the way that you're expecting it to be. Empty of all qualities. They all call it easy. Much this column, not well.

One assignment given some time ago, and some of you were joined after there is that one evening, a set of devotees just used what tabulated here, which is before going to sleep. I met in this room all of them. Then I gave as a homework assignment, which was to look at these rooms and the diversity that see, which we choices are packed into this queue. If the one solitary witness, which is without any boundary, without limitations. I am the one shoulders ocean in which the arc of the universe is. It's always verses are there. What are they pointing to? Feel this way. So anytime you not feel like, and I say looking, look for the witness. You might feel like there's a tailor there, supernatural entity which is a witness. Then my mother clue is there: it is boundless. So an entity must have a boundary, but witnesses even this idea of entity boundaries. And you might come to this idea that I am something which awakens in the waking state and both just feel which is the unchanging reality. What witnesses all of these shapes of the coming of the looking games? To the any state that you might be having, what witness is that? All the clues are there pointing to your reality. Don't come into any sort of mental conclusion, any sort of conceptual idea. So it is complete, will not be conceptual. In fact, mostly you will find yourself empty of versions now would be most. You will find that it's a difficulty to speak. Proclamations become very tough. The idea that 'I found it' or 'I have not found it,' both lose their relevance. The idea 'What I should do now? What should I do next?' seems to resolve because you find yourself to be on time. What next? Find yourself in all the universe. So what should appear in the universe? A pencil? Yet for you to know all this worldly knowing loses the relevance, but it can continue to be part of the play.

The liberated soul has no desire in his heart. He is content and indifferent. He has no equal. It is a small structure. He has no equal people. There is only one. There are no truth, only one to your desire. Knows nothing of knowing, only one for your desire. Knows nothing of knowing, says nothing needs saying. Both nothing of knowing, says nothing needs saying, sees nothing to see. Only one tree or designer knows nothing of knowing. There's nothing needs see, see is nothing to see. He who is without desire excels, be he beggar or king. He no longer sees good or bad. Selves not in the early or corporate form of excellence. This everything is seen to the funders to look at it more as other thing. This excel to illiterate Morris under wonderful.

What is lust or a screen of the desire for truth to the yogi who has reached life's goal and who embodies virtue and sincerity? What is lust of the screen or the desire for truth of a yogi or reach life's goal and who embodies virtue and sincerity? So this out of the pool as say the same: find this which is beyond this world. So what is the sage pointing at? So you too saying who he is too much time to time to overcome last, I try to overcome these tendencies which seem to exist in this early faith. Find out who you are right, the truth which is beyond all of these and these will themselves settle down, take care of themselves and be seen as a very natural animal human existence. Verena experience of one who is free of desire and suffering, who is content and reposes himself. How can it be described? And off for the inner experience of one who is free of desire and suffering, who is content and reposes himself. How can it be described? Self-expecting the wise one's state never wear these things sound good. Who is not asleep? Find the keys in this movie and hope it leaves by now.

When we first 94 of chapter 18, we need to look at what the scene is saying. Motor keywords is a pointer for your central condition. We saying: wise one's state never varied. Sleeping soundly, he is not asleep. Climbing reverie, he is not dreaming. Eyes open, he is not waking. So what did we do? Stop not to see the states of waking see. We talked about the reality of you are you is vastly changing or you continue to be you? That eternal witness, you continue to remain unchanged. We will continue to the window on this solarization and empty of qualities. So whatever state can't come in here. So this is not owed to sages or something like that. Maybe like this might feel like, 'Oh, this is this game homage to the great sages, they're so beautiful, all of this happens with them.' They apologize for you to see what is it their hope is it to its begins actually it would not this. So it is easy to find this reality for your side. It is not to say that the sage is something special and you are half and that because the sea is all these things are happening just to find this for yourself and see that on the first of a creditor is about you.

What is that we which one concerned by the way escaped the entirety of you just contained at the waking state? You can say these are realm of appearances. So is the entirety of you an appearance? I can just an appearance, but is there something about you which is beyond the waking sleep? You want these appearance? Then you start to make this discovery, start to make this degree. Then this sample are this figuration is for more and more within this unsaved struggle. You actually took up feverishness about something within a state which is just itself appearing and disappearing under the function. You are not contained within it. All is already so beautifully taking care of them to design this desire. If there is no mind, they can be no suffering. There is no ideal for lip-sync to me. The mind itself you contain just something will happen. See, usually do cities suffer in their dreams? The sage, as they are saying, is not just the outward appearance of this vital dream. The sage can seem to suffer them the alpha the appearance. The Whitman Satan's he comes there like I take the example of Ram crying, mourning, coming bereavement. Sita Ji was abducted. More look at it as the sage saintly nature, the to sell message or a witness or even this presence that means unchanged which way is good we have recession. Otherwise again it can become like when we hear something like this, though he's sleeping he's away. The popular idea especially in the mid spirituality isn't it? They say he doesn't like to sleep me of the body mind that continues to clear. The body is a phenomenal appearance. Suppose that apply what to say that consciousness cannot leave with those usual clearance since his body both peoples he's been making sway cheapskate beatskate. I have meditative states already what you're saying is that and then deep see the clearance there's this how to appearance continue to be that of a sage who is come to the recognition of the Self always loves overnight eel kids.

So in this one relative experiencing like this, it becomes a podcast or if I don't place to see more real Google like that can apply and can we really see that we are going to experience more than this one moment this life? What even x01 to us answer is: can we say that we will experience the life of Chaitanya more than I'd be a seeming making happen? This world was there, this body was there. You see that this body is there and some memory comes this one a chicken Chaitanya and the world movie is there. A guarantee will come back now this then like attachment came for this 49 and this body hope the experiences that I have is this body mind only. This happens and opposites happen. They're bound to when we have an idea for should happen when suffering comes as we have had enough of the play of this expectation, attachment and suffering that something opens up within us. As soon as that we can happen something funny. I don't mean to to voice usually which is saying this: who are you really? The same consciousness. So what can you say about that stage called Chaitanya? Maybe suffering the chief everything can happen in the truth, but something in reality is is that unchanging Self and the recognition of this unchanging Self. And this recognition is there something is possible. The recognition not there at the belief of the false is there that I am liberated entity. Something has to the deal of this identity. If I'm going to be the dog with the deal I have just special news from all of this unless you have this.

A man of knowledge seems to think but has no thoughts. He seems to have sense perceptions but does not experience. He seems to have intelligence but is empty mind. If he appears to be a person but is not. Man of knowledge seems to think but has no thoughts. Again, he is not attached to them in her identity. But when all thoughts are cuckoo, he seems to have sense perceptions but does not have experience. Again, means is not take the position of the individual experience or rich because we are still there do all the city is there is a room full of people see we tasted an experience now there is no individual experience it on the side there is not more of these words and I was saying away there is no hunger which is speaking these words there is no act it's become so which is experiencing all of this you are this commotion near won't be all of these just emergence and disappearance no own consciousness. So that's what it means: he seems to have sense perceptions but does not experience. Otherwise these I don't definitely bad way right simply contradiction. He seems to have intelligence but what is even after all conception moving this put aside we will see as you see whatever you seem to add more than that dude so much actually valueless movie I met the articulation speaking to age which which is sexual articulation how do you know about this and that will not attach to the more I can Kiki using not attach to punctuate moving system over changes and the final one is the kimchi he appears to be a person purchasing sage is that output equation of one who was who in that aspect of consciousness has come to be recognition of the unchanging Self you think you are still a person for this we'll see it again I said it's not a g0 1 2 3 4 we will see it no longer things you the first time still are you doing here if the body actually had that kind of relation suppose to pull the body at where kind of illusion choice making and you give two options to the b

He appears to be a person, but for this sage, that recognition of the unchanging Self has come to be. In that aspect of consciousness, you think you are still a person. For this, we'll see it again. I said it's not a 1, 2, 3, 4. We will see it no longer. Things you thought the first time, still are you doing here? If the body actually had that kind of relation—suppose the body were a kind of illusion, choice-making, and you give two options to the body. They give the chocolate ice cream for certain. You travel to all realms, chocolate ice cream. You lie to them. Tell the body to now don't settle for me. Eventually, well, now is the time to use all the truths. It is clear that I cannot be the body because if I were just the body, I would just be the nice type of hero. Okay, ice cream. Not bad.

Then the mind will also try and collaborate on this project. Now see, I must be this. Let me visualize what would this be. That is a meteor mind can come up with. And now doing this is my own. Settle for concept once. Okay, or 'I am awareness.' Please, if you settle for the concept 'I am awareness,' then the being is still not coming to the recognition of already using this example. Did I miss number 90? Okay, we look, we look first in tomorrow.

There's a question I want to give some attention to. Bertha is here and she says, 'I must ecology. I have wanted to ask you that I feel I don't want to assume something that I haven't seen, but that is not my experience yet.' Very cool. This is this so-called mind and super-ego are also concepts that I have heard from someone. Very cool. So she says the so-called mind and so-called ego are also concepts that I've heard from someone. So the only thing I know of is mind, thoughts—that's very good—that are in my experience, and the identities that I are attached to. But who do these thoughts come to? Who is identifying is what I am failing to look at. And who is the one who is observing all this? I am failing to understand that as well. Is it the mind is playing the role of one who sees and one who is identifying, or is it the one who observes is something different? I am really able to figure out.

So she says this so-called mind and so-called ego are also concepts and I've heard from someone. And later you say, 'Oh, I am aware of... for my experience is that there is a set of thoughts which comes.' So these thoughts put together is what we call the mind. And they make it very simple. The terminology which we use in satsang here is that a bundle of these thoughts, the collection of all of these thoughts, is what we call the mind. So the mind is nothing but these thoughts, which are all energy constructs. And for convenience, we also put in similar energies like imagination, memory. We use all this collection of similar energies that we call thoughts as mind.

So when you're in satsang here, if you do stay with this definition of mind—which in traditional teachings is called this for mind, sometimes there is a big mind which is consciousness, which aspects you take of that—just forget about all of that for some time. Just know that these thoughts and similar energies like memory and imagination is what we call the mind. So you say that 'I am aware of these thoughts in my experience.' So it is these thoughts which is mind. So you are aware of your mind in that way as thoughts. Then you say, 'I'm aware of my thoughts and I am aware of all the identities that I attached.' So a bundle of these identities is the ego, is it?

Now what you'll find is right now you're empty of identity. You have to think about it. See, well, but for a second you are to think. In your natural state, in the moment, there is no identity. This itself is a huge, huge release. And I know you do to satsang, so you haven't maybe heard before. Very useful because what can happen is that even a seeker you cannot become, you cannot play as, unless you give yourself at least a concept. You have to give yourself the concept, 'I'm not there yet,' but 'I haven't gotten it yet.' Something nice to see it. Like a baby, you have identity right now? Even I say right now, I keep saying now, now, because it gives no chance for the mind to think. Yes, yes, but nothing to figure, you see, unless you think about figuring, unless you pick up the idea that 'I'm not bringing it out yet.' Do you have a problem? Yeah, you don't have. You're empty of identity, see.

So now what has happened was that over the past few years, this spiritual seeker identity has been nourished to some extent, has been fed. Do you see that? 'You must find the Self, you must come to the truth, I have not done it yet.' Now just allow these things also to come and go. Thoughts are coming, then 'I have not figured it out.' What you did? Yes, let me come and move. That's the best part of surrender, you see. The best part of surrender is that none of this is your problem when you come to satsang because it is there. It's like coming to your mother's house; all the meals are cooked. So you don't have to do anything. Like I talked about this and say, once you've got on the Guru train, then do you have to keep running? So get on the Guru train, yes, relax. The words of satsang themselves point you to that cooking which is needed. The words will point you to the look.

So simply now we looked at what is the mind: just a bundle of thoughts. What is ego: just these identities that I believe myself to be. And which is that unless the thought comes, attention goes to the thought and the belief is taken. But yes, this thought is true. I cannot become an identity. You have to experiment with this little while. This experiment, so I always very idiom. So you have a ATM. You might not like the expansion; it is called the Anytime Misery Machine. It's not any time manual automatic teller machine; Anytime Misery Machine. What is this Anytime Misery Machine? This is the mind. This is the anytime if you want misery, we have to go to the mind. Without that, you cannot get. It has to be understood.

Secondly, how do you use the ATM? First, we put the regarding ATM card in. It has to go in there. So this ATM is attention to mind. Okay, first we have to give attention to the mind. Then what happens is it done? Do you get misery? No, this because attention is on a thought doesn't mean that you get a misery. You also have to put in your PIN, which is what? Personal identification. So identify with the thought and see what means. Once you release to it that this applies to you, see, you invent to me. You invent the identity in that way by giving belief. This identity is non-existent. It does not exist actually. We created. You mean not change exactly. It is both non-existent and non-persistent. Actually, it does not even survive the moment. I said that every moment you're empty of it. If I ask you what you identifying it with, you first have to think about it. Without this ATM, you cannot suffer. Can you suffer without giving belief to a thought?

So what is happening is that the seeker identity also becomes an identity, and there comes a point where even this seems to cause suffering for us. 'I am not getting it yet. I'm not able to do it as well as other people.' Thank you for sharing the other day, not consistent with your Kriya, all this kind of. So it is the seeker identity, the spiritual identity, which also can become the cause of suffering because even at the root of the seeker identity is a limited idea of Shweta. Which Shweta is something which is this body-mind, you see? That is why I give all these examples. That as body, would you choose to be here? You have a chocolate ice cream instead. There is nothing here for the body. So you cannot meet as this body. There must be something here which is beyond you also because you are new to have to tell you that there is a thousand dollar cash prize anyone who can show me the person. Good already. Is that possible? You see, there is no such entity which is tangible. There is no such person.

So Shweta is just a name for an idea we have about ourselves, or the collection of ideas that we have about ourselves. Ten years ago, the set of ideas would be different. So when I would say, 'How was Shweta ten years ago?' it would say she was very different. She was not in spirituality, she was with other things. I think, can you tell me about Shweta now? Oh, she's been going to some paths, doing all these things. See, what is all of that? This is a set of beliefs that you have about yourself. What is it that is actually here? Don't believe that that is misery causing. Please let it come and go. I know the smoke is at you, you see, but you will get used to letting them come and go. As you're more and more in satsang, you will find that—I don't know which city—sometimes you will find that in satsangs there is something which automatically makes it easier for us to allow the mind to come and go.

So when the thought comes, you know, just look at what it already is. And the thought will come and say, 'But that's so most difficult,' you see. So we can find that we are too used to believing them that we just become a representative of these thoughts, which is simply we come to a point. And more and more when you're in satsang, you will find it's easier to spot that, 'Oh, this is the mind. There is this coming in.' Because how—why should what is already here be difficult to look? There must be here. For the mind, it is impossible. So it will only say it is difficult. So what is here now? Did not tell you what is here now is that you are in front of the computer or a phone, isn't it? So you are observing this, these appearances, which is computer or whatever it is. Now you're also observing that which we call the body, isn't it? The sensations of the body, the appearance of the body, experiencing that to be though. Your thoughts are also appearances are known. They could be cool now, a mediation, any which will, any sensation, also appearances to come and go.

Can you stop being just for a second? Just don't be. Don't exist. Just don't do it. I say stop being this. Don't be. Is it possible? Stand it. If you try to understand it, it's very confused. No mind can understand. Okay, I'm giving you the clue now. So you do it. When you do it like a child, let's see that no, this being is this here. I can't stop being. My presence, my existence is here. Whether the body is perceived or not, whether there is a thought, whether there is mind or no mind, whether there is sensation, emotion, there is something more. I am all about my existence. I exist.

So instead of answering the question as if it's an exam question, you have to actually try to not be for a second. Start or own, just don't exist. This you say, mostly you will say it's not possible. I am. So this being which is so apparent, and the questions on silly when I say it, try to stop being this being. What is the quality of that? What is the shape of this existence? What is the size of it? Where is it? Does the body constrain it? These are—don't worry about them either. These clues that I am giving you now because it's a second system is clues and we will be, we share more and more about this and it will become clearer and clearer. There are many in this one today who initially when they would really seem to say, 'What is he talking about?' and now it becomes very, very straightforward. So as we look together and search them, all these clues will become stable.

So I've given you a few important clues today. I hope I'm not asking repetitive questions. I mean, like both those people know something might get bored. It's all this—these are the only questions actually. These are the only questions. Every question actually is a rebel. So don't worry about asking repetitive questions because all questions I seek seeking clarity about obeah see dilute somewhere. Everything actually that we do in life is about this journey of self-discovery. We've been trying to find it in different ways, trying to make something out of ourselves as something phenomenal. Now we are going beyond that. What is it that I am truly? Because this body, I don't feel I have these thoughts, I don't feel I this emotion that I don't feel I am. This is how you started. So I remember, you see, I remember.

Repetitive questions, because all questions seek clarity about what we dilute somewhere. Everything, actually, that we do in life is about this journey of self-discovery. We've been trying to find it in different ways, trying to make something out of ourselves as something phenomenal. Now we are going beyond that. What is it that I am truly? Because this body, I don't feel I am. These thoughts, I don't feel I am. This emotion, I don't feel I am. This is how you started. So I remember, you see, I remember the first time when you came, a very beautiful report she had. She said, 'I don't see that I am this body. I don't see that.' And you thought, 'Who am I?' And I said, 'What?' She said, 'The mind with me. Who am I? All of this? And either this or that?' So like this is what satsang is for: the possibility that you might not be a thing. You might not be an object. Something which is beyond phenomenal, just like this.

So more and more as you come, then the mind will be bypassed. The identity, the belief systems will start to be bypassed. And very soon we'll figure out a way where, you know, like we can do the mind bypass.

These Kriyas, do I mean, like, you know, if we do meditations, we do Kriyas, Guru Puja—I mean, like, what importance do these have?

So I'm so a bit of that today already, somehow. But if you believe that you're a prisoner, now there are different ways in which you can get out of this prison. So one way is to do all those spiritual push-ups. One day you will have enough spiritual muscle that you push this mind aside, be able to push this mind, and you will have done enough sadhana with that you can come to this point where a mind will become meaningless, what it is selling to you. So one way is to do these types of practices, various things to do. The other way is to say, 'Okay, the trouble is because of what I am believing about myself, this mind.' So let me now give to other things other than these mind comments which are always about me, me, me. Let me change this thought, bring me a book also, Ramakrishna or Jesus. Maybe instead of this mind identity-filled stuff, we come to trying to replace it with other things so that it does not cause the misery that it is causing. Mind is, like I said, the misery mushroom.

So all of these ways are you trying to overcome the mind. Now, why are you saying this is the direct path? It is that once you see that whatever the mind might be saying is not about me really, it's about this make-believe identity, then we don't need to do too much to go through much trouble to try and overcome the mind. Why overcome the mind? It is only because it is selling the story that you are the ego, it's making something out of you, reinforcing an identity where more or some—in reality, there only consciousness is, only God is. Direct insight of this, as you see what the mind is saying, it's not about me. So do you need to do then something to push it aside? Do you need to fear it? Do some bodybuilding, spiritual muscle-building exercises?

Kriya is beautiful also in a way because, okay, let me share from my experience here. What happened here is that as a result of this fear, it opened up some skills about this here to come to the exploration of Ram. For that reason, I'm grateful to spiritual practices. What can happen is that as you go through these spiritual practices, there might be these moments of insight where you lose your boundary, you find that there is no individual entity here. So in that way, it can be beautiful. Now, for me, this openness is naturally present. Okay, so for this form, the openness is naturally present. And then practices can start to reinforce the practitioner identity, either the specialness that 'I am doing so well in my practice' or the skills that 'I am doing so badly in this.' Again, this is limited identity, which is actually counter to the experience you are having in the practice. The experience that you have is that you are not a person. The experience that you look like you're boundaryless. But the identity... also the other thing, it is never the meditation which is the problem; it is the meditator identity.

Now all our experiences must now become pointers to our self-discovery. When you get attached to even spiritual experience, what identity can become? The experience that they have, 'Oh, I have believed me awakening, so I must be something special.' See, new identity about them. Yes. So we can stop worrying about the rest of humanity if they feel like they're prisoners and they need to do some sort of exercises to get out of prison. Something you find is even that can bring them some sense of it. It is fine. We have to just check what is the donating here for us now. Am I open to this discovery, whether they're actually the prison, prisoner, or a prison? And if this openness is there for this direct path, then you don't need years and years of struggle. Okay, this so clearly.

So we have to check within ourselves. I'm not saying this in any arrogant sort of way. I have never said the direct path is the best path. But I will you see that for what was playing out here, it was the best here because it just is clear that the idea of 'me' which was being believed in... and yet I feel like all the chanting, all the Kriya, all those, all the bhajan singing, everything, somewhere the play of this life helped to come to this. If we do the Kriyas without attaching the identity, then yes. Then what your record will be is that the Kriya continues to happen or not. I don't find the doer now. Empty of identity, the doer is not who is concerned about identity. That is still this, the spiritual aspirant identity which is trying to find an answer for what I should do. Okay, alright.

So if it happens on its own, it's okay. Like, you know, you don't have to keep... if I have to do it today, I do it and do these many Kriyas daily.

Yes, okay. Once you are like actually empty of this, if the Kriya has to happen, it will happen. If it does not happen, it will not happen. Even before that, it was like that only. It was only the identity that we are picking up. See, what is happening has been happening. What is not happening is not happening. There never has been an individual doer of them. Shweta has never done anything because she does not exist. A non-existent one. I say in your room, the blue cat has spilled some milk. What blue cat? See? Okay, but now do the blue cat do her spiritual push-ups every day or no? No. You can... is the point. This world is moving on its own. Everything has been happening through the will of consciousness alone.

You see, now this is what I said. I don't want you with the idea that you are Shweta but you are not the doer. I want to take away the idea that you were Shweta. Therefore, you could... Shweta was never the doer. Yes, a bit subtle. I know that you've not spoken for some time, but I'm just reading all these things with you. One is to say that, 'I'm Shweta, so what should I do?' And I say to you, 'Yes, you're Shweta, but don't have to worry about doing anything at all.' That is still half-knowledge. That you have never been Shweta, the doer, because she had never existed. What is the 'what' which is here? That which is here is your being. You cannot stop being. Then you will find one day soon that this being is empty of all boundaries. All that is appearing and disappearing is within your own being.

What were you receive like school and college mode where you're trying to understand it from here? Would you actually run this deep? Allah, before I go to sleep or whenever I get time, definitely think simplicity.

Yes, you are on the Guru train. Everything is in Guru problem. Okay, because I know that any instruction I can also give you a bit of a tendency to make a dual out of yourselves. You, for now, you forget about even... can you stop being me? And the rest, you mean open this. Allow everything to come and go. When the mind is saying something, it's like in this room there are two doors. You keep your doors open. Let all residuals come and go. You don't serve them tea. You do that with your thoughts. Allow all thoughts are coming, don't you go beliefs to anything. Now you will find that body has to move, body is moving. You might see that, 'I was... I thought without a doer, that's what I'm losing my thoughts and making them into actions.' But you will realize that thoughts are coming and going on their own of your thoughts, and you are not aware of your actions that they actually also moving on their own. It's like your head is nodding, eyes are blinking, is working on their own. That's me, that there is no Ananta speaking these words. And this game is true for the actions which you seem to feel that you are doing. There is nobody sitting there doing them. They all move.

How will you come to all the movements? How will you come to all the insights? Just like this, healing satsang. Allow your mind to come in, you don't pick up any idea of guilt. Thoughts do get identity has been drilled into you in some way, it has become a little... so don't make anything, anything new. Every scissors just what is it? In-flight entertainment. So now you have entry dating all these pointers. Just be relaxed about it. Don't become practitioner of annuities. Then you find so much is so much peace. It's not you. You will find a lot of things is talking, doing certain things, or maybe we are making certain choices, or maybe we are choosing certain thoughts over certain thoughts, but it is not we who are doing. It's happening.

You mean to say always everything which is even a choice? Let's say... hello, very good, hi. I was saying when we make a choice, let's say if I have to drink coffee or tea, so if I'm making a choice of drinking coffee over tea, so I feel that I'm making the choice, but in reality it is not me making the choice. It is happening.

Yes, like that. But let these be your own revelations. We experiment with these. The game has entertainment in green entertainment. Don't make practitioner of any of these practices, right? As you start to notice this more and more, you will see there is a noticing happening here of these words which are emerging from this form. But I remember I used to feel like I am speaking my words here. This week we love his words. Now it is seen that these are emerging, and just like words which seem to be coming from there, I noticed words which are coming from here also. Noticed that these video insights put in a playful, natural manner. I want you to know is that anything you hear in satsang, anything for me, if it is any form of building you, throw it away. It is not important.

So then you will see that all this actually... some Guru says that these Kriyas help you to hold on to the body. Like, you know, when my energies rise to a certain pitch, when the awareness rises to a certain pitch into whatever, I don't know, to hold on to the body. So these Kriyas in a way prepare your body so that it can hold you in you to the body in this, so that you don't leave the body unconsciously or something like that. I don't know.

So without getting into the specifics of who said what, really, which is this phenomenal world has many, many intricacies, many much of its design. Now, as you come into your of yourself, which is all of this, then you will find that you don't have to worry about anything. Normally you find that there is prima intelligence that runs this world, this universe. The help from any practice or any mind will come to that discovery of who you are. Then you will see that this universe, so many intricate principles has time, space, olicity, atoms and strings, always moving with intelligence. Every single thing is only the will of consciousness. Now, hold on to your identity as something intermittent within this way or phenomena, then we can talk about how does this rule work, Karma, does it work like this, this Kriya we hold the body in this video on that. But satsang has a limitation about who you are. Now, strong notion for you, and you find yourself unable to be open about the enormity of what you are, much beyond this body. This body is just a tiny appearance within you. You open to that kind of possibility, then you don't need other practices try and retain the body using like that you are something contained within this body or this.

We can talk about how does this rule work, karma. Does it work like this? This kriya, we hold the body in this way or that. But it has a limitation about who you are. Now, if it's a strong notion for you and you find yourself unable to be open about the enormity of what you are, much beyond this body—this body is just a tiny appearance within you—if you open to that kind of possibility, then you don't need other practices to try and retain the body using things like that. You are something contained within this body, or this body is what you are; that is too small and it sounds incomplete. When you hear things like 'the body is just an appearance for you,' then there's nothing wrong with doing some other practices. If you've been able to come to a few satsangs, you are open to the possibility of your truth as consciousness itself, and ultimately that much openness is all that is needed to come to this definition.

So, like I said, there are different strokes for different folks based on our temperament, on our conditioning. There can be different pointings which are made available. You have to see now what is resonating with you. Like for a long time in my life, there was resonance with things like yoga and things like that. These were my spiritual practices. But there came a point where they became like those tiny dinky cars that we used to play with growing up. At one point, they seemed like they were the most important thing for me in my life. I was once pestering my father, 'Please give me more. When you come from work, can you buy me those Hot Wheels cars?' Then after a point, I outgrew them. Was it bad for that time? It wasn't bad because that was what was needed at that point of time. What is it that is resonant? Don't worry about higher or lower levels, just what is it that you've outgrown? What is it that is resonating most with you? You see, with that you will never go wrong.

Okay. You talk about how everything is happening. It feels like, I mean I could be wrong, I'm just saying that it feels like everything is predestined. I mean, I don't know, from my own perception it sounds like that at least.

This is because you're still presuming that consciousness has to follow the rules of time. I am pointing you to something which is beyond time and space. And when we talk about predestiny or karma, all of that is just within time. Predestiny means this is the individual who is following these words. I'm just reminding you about the movie. This is in the movie. The protagonist—let's say the protagonist was called Shwetha—Shwetha went through all of the struggle of life trying to figure out who she was. Then one day she came to satsang and in the first minute, Shwetha got it. Finished. All the struggle of life for whatever number of years, in one moment was over. Consciousness played this way, with an inner build-up of so much, so much, so much, and then letting go. Just like the moment it seems in a movie like that—the indie movies or art movies are like this—something, something, something keeps happening, and at the end of the movie, just like that, it's over. Extract even joy from this coming out of this illusion.

Who has been doing all of this? There's only one. Somebody asked me that and I said, 'Okay, you give me the options. Make it a multiple-choice question for me.' Then you struggle. What are the options for who could be doing? Me being me? I exist, I can see, which is consciousness has been playing as if it is this limited entity. Now it's playing the game of dropping the limitation, the game of falling asleep in identity, and now playing the game of waking up from the same. So who is doing all of this play? Only one word and one experience: I. Do we ask who is doing or we can ask who is experiencing? You will come to the same answer. Maybe we were giving it the wrong answer, which is Shwetha was doing anything or experiencing anything. This is the play of delusion, ego, consciousness here dropping this, picking up the dropping. I told you the ATM story. Who's operating the ATM? Consciousness. That is why this is consciousness playing with consciousness, also consciousness, only consciousness is this insight. See, become your own direct seeing.

As you know, I've been struggling with this. It's like, you see, she sits down, closing her eyes, and something naturally takes over. She feels like very beautiful spiritual experiences are coming to this actual insight. And I don't find in her case a complicated identity is getting too much. Bottoms are happening the minute you're closing your eyes, you're seeing. It is like I said, I'm saying today she has a different temperament, different conditions, different things. You will come from here also. There is no thing like that, but you have to see that you will be what comes from here is the direct form. See what you are. What is being done or not done is known.

I'm so glad to have found you, seriously. Thanks to Reena and thanks to Anju. Yes, thanks to Shivani also. You know, she has sent me those eleven clues. Yes, oh yes, even I called her Drishti. I don't know, I just remembered that when I do that, then we have a meaning. Self in me and at the end, ceremony empty, referring to the one with the words. So it takes some getting used to. The conditioning means that people get used to it. I bought the name another room, then I told my mom that I have this. She's a meaning. Come to the manipulation like we told you, and it felt so beautiful. The moment I joined the satsang, it really felt like a family. I'm glad the circus is here. And the man who came forward, she messaged me, 'Are you Reena's friend? Can I help you?' Shivani messaged me that—sorry, Drishti messaged me that—'I'll send you those eleven clues,' and she did. She sent me those and I was like, 'Wow, who does that usually?'

I'm very happy. Look, this sangha is to encourage, to share all these pointers. I don't say this often enough, but let me use this opportunity to thank my Drishti, to all the ones, to everyone that is quietly behind her appearance. No special means, just you have to be twenty-four hours. She is doing highlights and their bodies fell sick. I know that sometimes in sanghas there can be some spiritual competitiveness, some idea that everybody else is taking on people. All these ideas can come in spiritual sanghas, but the only purpose of them is to support each other in this way. I'm very happy with this. Thank you for this.