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Can You Ever Lose Your Self? - 20th December 2017

December 20, 20171:27:4092 views

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Ananta guides seekers to recognize that the Self is not a future goal to be reached, but the ever-present reality already here. He encourages dropping the conceptual 'me' and the mind's interpretations to reveal one's boundless nature.

What you are looking for is already what you are.
You could never leave the Self if you tried.
The cup will never contain the ocean; the cup is in the ocean.

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Transcript

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Ananta

You know what? Where did you lose yourself that you are trying to find? And what else can I say fundamentally? You are here, you are present, and you are aware of this presence. What is lost? What is yet to be found? Now, if you believed over a long period of time—maybe not about your head—then it can seem like the simple answer doesn't help. If you have believed for a long time that you have lost the Self and you are now a seeker of the Self, what are you seeking? Self-realization. We are on the search for self-realization; it makes us a seeker of the Self. So if you have believed yourself to be a seeker of the Self for so long, then it can seem like the obvious answer can't be it. 'I could have looked for something which was so obvious for so long?' It's a fear of seeming stupid to ourselves. Much of the time, the spiritual seeker continues to get believed in because we feel like this can't be it. What are you saying? Have I always been the same? Yes. What is that you have always been? What is that?

Ananta

Now comes a battle of the dark side where most of what is broken in us is to tell us, 'Just deal with these doubts.' But this is a matter of the... but Brahman has promised this: 'If I was to get self-realization, I would have a lot of superpowers, realization, an untiring body.' Something so simple as the Self, we've got caught up in the story of the perks, the byproducts. And in that story of the byproduct, so natural and so what we just are, it's missed. And even if you don't believe the superpowers, it is really like, 'At least the quality of my feelings will change to the point of me finding myself.' To find yourself, do you need a point that is so fundamental? That expectation also is the subtlest one because you know this is reversible. So you find yourself, can it be the end of suffering? But that itself becomes the cause of perpetuated suffering—that expectation. Yes. So these incorporate the marketing. But actually, it is not that will stop suffering. You can see that what you truly are cannot suffer. An important decision, because what is speaking is only about an appearance. The secondary is speaking from the degradation of what you fully are.

Ananta

Once you see that you are subtler than the subtlest, subtler than space, invisible, what can hurt? Can time? So what can make time? So what can make space? So you come to your end of suffering, but I think that you are that in which time and space take birth. What can make you suffer? It is not that this body, which is part of this play, part of this appearance, but never here... grief can still come. But what are you identifying yourself with? The movie can still have one request. Who are you? Are you the screen? Are you the light of the projector? Who are you in this movie right now? Who is perceiving these words?

Ananta

Sometimes they say you don't have to find yourselves. In fact, you could never leave the Self if you tried. You see, that's why Maya is so beautifully designed to be so compelling. If you have to plan something limited, but you are beyond all the states. Sleep state comes, you are still there. Dream state comes, you are still there. Waking state comes, you are still there. Then in the deepest meditation, Turiya, you are still there. Breath might have stopped, body functions might have stopped, the world might seem to cease to exist, but you were still there. How do you get rid of yourself? And this is the trouble: you cannot lose yourself. I say try for a moment. Don't be the Self and just keep yourself aside. Don't forget about what we can produce so that the ocean bed itself... more than you can ever imagine. What you're looking for is already what you are, and you want the report card from your feelings, from your thoughts. 'Is my experience important enough?' That which you can find which is not here already does not exist. If it is a becoming that is needed, it is not the truth.

Ananta

In these trillions of perceptions, all perceptions, you have focused on just some of them and given them the name 'me.' To remove this concept of 'me,' the limited 'I,' what is your reality right now? Because we are discarding that older tool of knowing, which is the mind, conceptual knowing. I don't mind in this way because we are finding that it cannot even answer the most fundamental question about where is 'me.' Integrity... other problems of that become... you have considered yourself to be a glass, a cup. And easily, what will happen in your freedom is that the cup continues. So when I say that you are all there is, you are usually looking at the body and saying, 'I'm not yet all there is.' But the reference points can continue to see like a cup, and it can be okay. What is the experience of the cup? But this cup will never contain the ocean. It is always the ocean; the cup is a part. And this is conducive, standard. Is your experience already? So you don't have to change the quality of your experience.

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Seeker

You also said the other day it is only ever the interpretation. Interpretation is the problem.

Ananta

Suppose chess is a game. You don't buy the concept for a few minutes about the limited being. It's like the game anyway is not going anywhere. You're not defining yourself in any way. Just a couple of minutes, you're not agreeing that everything is your boundary. So visualization also needs it already. Maybe some of you will start to visualize yourself as expanding through the body. Not all that is needed. Something much simpler: you don't creatively need visualization tasks. Not binding to the idea of being contained in... getting to this point, no ending. I think that you know mentally matters in still permanence. It doesn't matter whether you're getting this one wrong. No joy is coming? Doesn't matter. If aversion is coming? Doesn't matter. Don't have to hold on to this state, don't have to let go of it. All nothing. I think is coming to you. Is something happening to you in this? Yes. The clear of these appearances, it can look like, it can feel like something is changing. And the mind will come and see, but even a black eye can go on completely fine. Most of it is already happening without picking up the notion of the 'me' and the other.

Seeker

The thoughts, when you say half-done, seems fully done. When you're gone completely, it seems to vanish because I said so. Now, suppose I give you a label like... because we do need something, so you can say for a being or just one of these... that space is an imagination. Then what about that which is appearing in space? If all of this is containing things, it is contained in that which is magic, and all of this itself must be... so much even this sense of my foot touching the ground, this is around yourself. It seems to you that something does.

Ananta

You know, if you were to know how to imagine, this does not do anything. It was not no affluent and just the presumption 'I am moving, my speaking these words.' For the limited 'I' has just been presumed.

Seeker

So does this mean that full addiction to the mind... well, and no offense, or dropping the madness surrenders? Full attention to the mind is what the Buddhist would call mindfulness. Incomplete attention to everything that is arising and just allowing it to come and go. Not to the sense of pushing it away or taking with it in any way, just the simple letting go is yes, beloved Father. Perceiver... has to interpret it in a certain way. We have to pick up on 'me.' Is this current? The picking up of the interpretation... in the picking up of the interpretation, the 'me' is inherent. We can put it that way.

Ananta

So it's like a combination process. It's not saturated in that way, you see. In most interpretations, you will find the 'me.' You want for them... you might know we getting new internet and heard that think the net is causing a lot of the audio trouble because you somehow become here. Internet isn't so cool. So a lot of new internet connection, which is also since option to allow it in these to chat with hosts. And it says not taking me in Korea, love owning the downing and... beloved Father, I have been trying for a couple of years. Something beautiful that you get answered in community seconds. He said, 'If God is what you want, why you even accept the possibility of the existence of anything else?' Agency receives all applications. Say apologies, very powerful. We might feel like 'I need to pick up this existence of a limited being separately.' Some things, when you start to see that actually that which is takes care of itself. Some blinking, there is no reason. If freedom is what you want, why actually pick up this notion?

Seeker

Experience that purity seems to be something funny. You know, I experience the sensation to this body, but that is... is that what we are?

Ananta

To start by admitting that the idea that there is sensation of the body is the present for us. From my experience, it is not true, isn't it? You cannot even actually say for certain that another body exists because these are just completely your opposite of what the mind registers. So when these things come up or they are spoken in Satsang, there is not to be some actually and you can to stop also push it too much. So all you can say is 'I am.' You can never really say you are. We've had other experiences, but they seem to be the others, but they aren't any, like in a dream. But one day Ramana Maharshi would ask his question: 'Now that I see the truth about myself, what about others?' He said, 'There are no others.' So what you are perceiving is a variety of the universe for you. Everything else is a presumption, is an interpretation. It so must be. And even this worldly play of some reliance on this must be. Even what I'm sharing with you relies on this must be. There must be somebody there listening to all of this. This is the play of the world.

Ananta

So although you can hear the report for me, this sensation of pain in my arm, and sometimes I'm hearing that you might even experience a light, you see. But you can never say that something exists unless it is an experience of 'I am.' Not only a something like this, but also in physics, they are grappling with the same problem. Does something really exist without the experience of business? Is there a Schrodinger's cat when there is no observer? It is not. But within that taken in this body and still this body without you meeting and we stay, we just for clear experience. So this is playing in that concert. The beginning itself in the entire computer game, it is beginning itself. You just king computer is saying, 'Mr. Bond, this is the next.' Therefore, that which is beyond this entire is believing itself to be just that same light. And we say in diagram is just so. It can be either as consciousness talking this limitation, it can also start to play with or to experience play of sensations on that which is seeming like other bodies. But that is no benchmark to anything at all, you see.

Ananta

But you will find that this can happen. So many other things will happen like this. Son is in distress and a mother feels something. So clearly there is this... what being in with all this singing sensations. Two subatomic particles are before relationships with each other and they could be sent to two different parts of the universe, but one property which is supposed to be the fastest in stickiness. And this outward thing, this oneness is now I think that you can say is your experience is outside your weekly about whether it actually exists. And you don't have the intention exist. Let's not worry about that for some time. But let's find out whether this beingness that has any different, any boundaries. Even the sense of distance that you might perceive is outside, inside. Even this noise from the screen and the distance which seems to be there between that and you is also contained within you. Aside comes to a point where you see this is until the waking state and dream state they start saying waking dream, 'I'm dreaming.' You will find that every sensation, every boundary is contained within you. You are not contained within them. Can you play with this?

Seeker

So what putting field could continue? Yes, it is nothing but the good news in this. If there is even a little bit of attention so any opportunity at all today...

Ananta

Then he said to himself, something came unto the... decide what I have to experience to take this call. Bell rings again and he says that answer the door that day and a friend came and he said one of the best evenings. So it's a bit metaphorical, don't take it too literally. The universe is not messing up the recipe. This is the perfection. I think reason is just expand that. Unresisted anything. Unresisted any percentage, any thought, any emotion. Resisted then that it changes.

Seeker

If I say nothing, I know my Lucy Ricardo nothing on. So I feel like I don't know what changed between the last time when we met them last night.

Ananta

He left, the experience also came today. Sometimes when a beautiful experience can come, the mind can use that also as a benchmark and say, 'Okay, no, no, but what I was doing before it was not so great, but now I will seek that.' Oh, this is what could you see this one being and everything is happening. The mind is saying judgment, money, depending, projection of the future or anything that happened in the past. If you will not have had any spiritual experience of the past also, then experience just a blink mode it was. So this is the power of insight. But now, whatever feels more natural. But I would say that had some experience with those were very good. This one is what simpler with moment you get it very soon you will see that they are not exclusive in the... just so this is that inquiry is to and use that opportunity of that fear that comes up to make you even more of us to inquire seems tricky.

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These satsangs touch the same silence.