Ashtavakra Gita Chapter 2 Conversations - 7th August 2017

It is not clear your starting point, although I'm saying it jokingly. Clearly, when you check what you will discover about yourself now, then what is happening is that we are playing a two-step thing in which we are picking up the idea that 'I am not free and I want something, I want freedom,' and then we are picking up the idea that 'How do I get it? How do I come to this?' Who is it not true for right now? But you are unlimited being. Any image you are aware of cannot be you. You must be that. But what? 'Yeah, but...' Like this, in this moment, what do you find yourself to be? Then you can hear the voice come, 'Yeah, but...' It has a certain magnitude, I'm not denying it. We cannot put on the brakes. They are fine. So come on then, for two minutes, I'll keep doing it. There's nothing to it. There's nothing to address. It's absolutely just habit, fiddling like that. We have this habit of fiddling with the mind. There is nothing to do, yet the habit is to presume that there is something to fix.

What is our starting point? In each moment, don't rely on a judgment or any memory or a report from the past or an idea or a projection of the future. What is our bondage? Oh, terrible. We did that. You are right now. You put a word to it, you have a label. So, does illusion exist? Okay, is the body which is appearing then becomes real, becomes me, and from this, we are in denial of the world here? Here is okay. Is the appearance of it making me an object within it? How do you do this magic? I will be using this green water or whatever to yourself to be. By means of expression, I'm not putting the body down and saying compared to your magnificence, it's a tiny aspect of truth. If I am beautiful, for instance, I usually recommend and you see yourself until we are to what is natural. Finally, after sharing the truth, there is some resonance into it.

What am I saying? Not them in you. For me, what will return? And the resonance is not given. I was quite disappointed when I heard that question. The formless reality will be pointed to very clearly before them, and yet they come to the point where they say, 'I need to see the most magnificent form you can link myself with.' Are you waiting for some demonstration, some experience to convince yourselves of that which is so obvious? Why? Oh, but I enjoyed very much from Papaji. If you've seen a ghost where one comes to some days and says, 'Can you show me a ghost? I don't see one.' What would you say? 'Boom is out.' Forget about 'boom.' Do you see? Do you see? Not what you see, but what do you see? Waiting for the heart and excited. Sometimes it's good to affirm this. Why can we be so difficult about the truth and so confident about the labels? Can we pick off a doubt? In the clutches of a thought, it's against reality, against the magnificence of what is in anything at all.

So Janaka came to this discovery. He says like this: 'By this light alone the body and the universe appear. I am everything and nothing.' What is the meaning of this? 'I am everything and nothing.' How can they be everything and nothing? Opposites are actually one. Don't agree with that which is felt. All form, yet you are all there is. Therefore, all forms also must be you alone. Where everything comes from, everything that occurs is made up only of the essence. It's like seemingly in a dream, you are everything actually which you can see lies within. Pretend as if you are just an aspect of it, but even in the mountains or rivers or whatever in the dream, it is all you. All of this is you. Like the mind segments, but there is a boundary. Do you see this world of quality to be only one? How to see? I will not take you there. I can only show you that you already are that. Saying to somebody reality, that it is all a dream, it's all a dream. So if you try to ride on two chairs, what will happen? You do that. That's why actually sometimes the talk on sunlight seems to get tough on the wings. We try to ride both. You try to get onto two chairs at the same time. We try to ride two horses at the same time. Try to get onto two trains.

What is the mind going to give you that the Self cannot do? What is that? You still have an idea that, 'Oh yes, this is beyond the scope of the mind.' Found in my dream that something is beyond the scope of the Self. It is an accurate expression of consciousness itself, and that consciousness is the light for the light to exist. In the light, I am as anything else exists, that which is the purest expression of this, that itself is responsible to come. What's the greatest offer that you can get from the mind? 'Follow me and you will get enlightened.' Exactly. Or as those who are attached to the secret identity, 'Follow me and I will promise enlightenment.' Because, 'Oh, okay.' In the Satsang sometimes, our Satsang receives it also. 'I will give you enlightenment. Take a point. Okay, we'll get on these ten steps, fifteen steps.' They were sometimes very well-attended, doing terrible evaluation according to the mind's report card. Yet, what is the enlightenment? That light which we are looking for, will it come eventually? Is it missing right now? Mechanically, this value will live. It is the light also which comes and goes. Should it come tomorrow or in some cases, which it was something that you found somewhere else and yesterday and all? Well, it will. Can that mean it also comes and goes like watching a movie?

Proposing enlightenment is not an experience. You can have an awakening experience in which you can see like a ghost and find the sense of an individual being. But in reality, right now, there is going to give me some time. It can seem very obvious now; other times it can seem less obvious. The fact is, this is the truth. So then it says, 'I will give you enlightenment,' and here, let me tell you how you are unenlightened. We've asked you, 'Are you a member of this school?' and we still have a concern about security. But can you be any of this without resorting to a thought about yourself? To be you, no thought is needed. You exist. You need no thought. But to be something, to be somebody, even that somebody who wants enlightenment, we need some thought, some concept about yourself. So immediately, even in that, two fools are being bullied: 'I want enlightenment' or 'I need enlightenment.' What are you referring to as yourself? Am I an enlightened one or an unenlightened person? Let's be honest. Every concept that we buy about ourselves tells us the identity of limitation. 'Person' means whatever that quickly, which is body. Any concept of limitation that I might have, and when you look and check about yourselves, what difference? Without judgment, without incident, oops, now in something that means you find this one who wants enlightenment, who wants anything.

So it can't be that simple. 'Take the mind away.' It can't be that simple, as we heard stories with meditators in meditation for on tops of mountains or caves in the field. And I know meditators who meditated so much that anthills formed on top of them and people wouldn't even recognize them. They were meditating with anthills. It looked like that. As an act, we've kind of stories we've heard. So who had to do all of them? How can an internal fish here and tell all of us that what that sage was after is already here before you can even intend to meditate? Sleep, person, knowing it's been done. Ask further, you get the mind. So do you think that mind attaining the last would be? Must have been all that or all the backlog is done? Yes, now I see. Now you're ready. So all of you, okay, let's take that exploratory. Who is not so bad? So now once you get the game, the way I shoot it up with ten people, I said complete the sentence. The sentence: 'I am awareness, but...' In the book, there's a blank after 'but.' How many 'buts' are there? Okay, we have the power to hit in here. 'I am awareness, but I choose to get distracted and move away into single phenomenality at times. I feel this Vasana and complete undifferentiated nothing, and then most of the time I hide from there and get stuck in attention.' Attention, slowly, you know, wonder will get.

So now, once you get the game, the way I was shooting up with ten people, I said, complete the sentence. The sentence: 'I am awareness.' But in the book, there's a blank after 'but.' How many out the back? Okay, we have the power to hit in here. I am awareness, but I choose to get detected and move away into single phenomenality. At times I feel this vastness and complete undifferentiated nothing, and then most of the time, I hide from there and get stuck in attention. Attention slowly, you know, wonder will get captured. Um, whatever the thing is important, okay.

Let's see. What I'm hearing is what Maharaj said. So let's see what he says. Sometimes I think this onion you take last me, and on other times, I just... my attention gets cut off in the world leading. So right now, I am also seeing all the worldly things. All these bodies are sitting in front of me. There is a computer in front of me. Attention is here. So what happened to that which witnessed both this vastness and now witnesses the world? Many times we can get the idea that if you're experiencing or witnessing or perceiving some small space or some big white light, which is same, it is because the mind hears these words and it is happy to collaborate in this way. And sometimes we experience our own being in this way, like this is the most beautiful. The mind is when it is quiet, then you are free; when it is not quiet, then you are not free. But we should not feel just by the movement of attention. It doesn't mean that, you know, that which attention reports to remains the same even in this view.

The 'I' is such a chameleon, or Guruji says it attaches to the attention also, which is such an intimate tool. So when it goes on, where we say, 'I am now where that thing attention is reporting,' what happened to that one single? But in my experience, it will convert us because the attention flips to different in the caves. Covered as per this, many times the attention holds back common sense and I explained my senses' vessels. Then the attention peels and such. I expect a week's logon altogether. It's still there, I am okay, but it gets covered up by, you know, the attention with fly me.

So I have some good news for you and some good news for you, which is that with you, let's take another way of looking at the same thing. What do you think? You think that 'I find myself' as if it is an outward movement or an inward movement, and at times there comes an obstacle in the middle, gets covered up, indicates blocks. So what I'm saying to you is that what you are is neither an outward movement nor an inward movement. Therefore, the movement of attention, although it can be an aid sometimes in the self-inquiry, in the recognition of what you are, it is not a prerequisite. Otherwise, those who were enlightened or those who are sages, their attention must really be in awareness itself. Then why would they wake up into this? We can quit, or the world we can exist nothing without our attention on it. So when awareness of yourself is done playing the game of the dynamic aspect to appearances, the world, then it can... then it might not ever wake up.

So the fact that there is something that still wants to experience itself in this phenomenal way in the waking state, we know what we are saying is that the movement either left or right or in or out is required for you to be yourself. Therefore, the truth can never be covered up. It can at best be a pretense. It can at best be a facade which all of us have been playing with through another very, very popular mind trick. It's one of the trump cards of the mind. It tells you that, 'Ah, see that experience which you had in which there was nothing at all was just an unlimited space. When you see in that experience, then you retrieve it.' It convinces you like that. I am saying to you that no matter what appearances are coming and where attention is going, you would have been unlimited, unaffected.

So now let's take a simple example so we can relate to this conclusion. If you always thought, or you were always told, say by your parents, your family, all the people you met, and the voice in your mind, that actually the Sun comes out from the West—this is what you always believed—then you meet someone rare. One comes on your path and he says, 'Oh, you see the Sun?' 'Yes.' 'It comes from the East.' Then you say, 'No, it can't be.' And he says, 'Just this once, okay, okay, tomorrow morning wake up at this time and you check.' You check. You check. 'Ah, Sun comes from the East.' 'Maybe it is only today. Maybe this one put some magic on me. Maybe it's because of some magical...' If it's so easy to check, the Sun comes from the East.

All of the things that we have in satsang, it will be in satsang. Let me say, okay, you check again, check again, check again. You checked a hundred times. Now the mind will come with its trick and say, 'You have to be in that checking state, otherwise the Sun will come from the West.' It's because you are looking that the Sun is coming out from the East. It's not true. Whether the insight is there or whether you are checking, the Sun comes from the East. Whether attention is going to thousands of objects in the world or it is remaining unattached to any phenomena, you are the Self.

So let's see what it means when you say, or someone says, that it gets covered up. What is this process of covering up? This is what we're discovering, isn't it? Now all of you, allow your attention wherever it wants to go and tell me how the Self went away. Now don't try to control your attention. Let it go wherever it wants. Tell me how the Self went away. Did something get covered up? More attention was attracted to some objects, some phenomenal content. Well, firstly, where do you remove yourself? How can we lose it? Because if you lost yourself, then who is looking at attention going here and there? You will see here the witness, or even attention, or attention rule.

Now what happens? The voice of interpreter comes. Suppose now attention went to a bodily phenomenal fold, a phenomenal friction, a very popular one: sensation. Is the attention going to it? No, nothing got covered up. You will find an individual experience of this thing. The voice comes and says, 'You know, you're free from this anger, so you're free from this frustration.' You will not be free very instantly by this concept of the Self. When it seems like the individualized identity comes to the fore again, without this, there is no covering. Wherever you are, attention might wander along; you'll never move from the Self. Even in the belief to the thought, you actually don't lose the Self which is attached. So why is the service? Being is 'I am,' and then this concept 'I must be free of phenomena.' What we create, anger, then you see a plus or indiscreetly or something, then poses as if it will be something now limited. So this is... this is where we're getting duped by illusion. It is not in the play of attention alone. It is attention working in coordination with the belief.

If you have a bank locker, one key with you, the other key is with the bank. Then you go to the bank to open the locker, you have to put it to function. Which is this? You turn one, and the bank later turns the other. Both attention and belief have to work in coordination so you can pose as if you are a company me. That's why when the Master said, 'Let all thoughts come and go, don't serve them tea.' If you don't serve them tea, let any thought come. All that is coming can come, don't serve them the tea of your belief. You don't identify with what it was. Only the next one, I made it super simple for you because your starting point is this freedom. This network operates on no effort. Any exactly same with local, any effort always of either doing or not doing, it won't be. It's the key activation as we've covered also in the last many years.

Yes, there is no one instruction that this works. I wish they worked. This is then I forget to keep that all the time. Now what happened is that you're willing something like moving nowhere further. The mind can even take that on. It's so tricky. And this free now, he is asking me to check what is here now, but I'm not even... I can be directed to that. The voice of limitation can take on any most to see no pointing and co-opt it in its game. So sometimes one starts to say, it's just like the puppeteer example. Then what do they wear for top to top? I think it doesn't. On the other hand, we said we didn't see my time with... if you hear both of things together, you are confused, right? Okay, we didn't see my time with what happened to the no effort? Yes.

So because the point is to get to this utility of no movement either left or right, moving up or down. Sometimes Maharaj says, 'Come back to this side,' sometimes, 'Go on that side.' That's why the world is a sunken... we seem to be so much in contradiction. We have got used in school to a third-world linear truth, a truth which will go in a straight line and have various gradations and will ultimately get to the ultimate truth. But in satsang, it's all downward with no straight line because how to point you to where you are already? I have to say, 'Take one step left and one step right,' because you don't believe me when I say you are that already. So the pointing of the Sun will always be like this. You will always end up where you started, unfortunately or fortunately, because to discover yourself, you are right now. Not one step, not one intention, not one movement is needed. And yet, even to detect this, it can seem for some like effort.

That's why I launch a minimization technique of you also. I said, if it feels like to come to awareness, if you think like it is a bit of effort, then make that one effort. Again, it will come contradictory. You are that, we have not left the declination. So then this pointing, we are not falling into the mind trip because Advaita can also give the ego the biggest defense for itself. It can put up the biggest barriers to our insight, our checking about what we are, because it's the level conclusion that can be there. What is happening is we are coming to beautiful... I don't know if somebody has an answer, tell me how to bring people to enlightenment, how to bring people to freedom. I have to say I don't know. It is something that happens when there is resonance, this meeting. Then some words arise from here, they seem to point this one on what needs to be pointed to, and there the next question always comes and the guidance can be exactly the opposite of that because there is no answer in that way. There is no truth in that way.

So it can seem like we have completely powerless and we don't have that. We've covered that too, the most beautiful. So that which we know mentally, we like a defense, this wall is not there and nothing could be attacked within for strategy, template, plan of freedom. Ultimately, what plan does the drop in the ocean need to become the ocean? Neither successfully that there was never an individual, it's not a drop in English, we've always been the ocean. I've done it often and it works. The new first, whether we say it out loud or more, we have the desire to share satsang. So I say, okay, you have the desire to share the fun. All you have to do is pretend as if you are talking to a drop which is claiming that it wants to get back in the ocean, but it's already the ocean. Whatever you tell the drop is the word of satsang. See that you only are that. See that you don't have to go anywhere. See that all the ups and downs are happening on their own, you are not doing that. I suppose also come to the scene with the ball, this one being game in all babies are fish also and could be maybe left with a memory of how it cleared out before is inside also chair. So then they can write other way. Remember if there was a time, there was the time that all of this was the beach, it was so good.

Thank you for when you posted something. Can I read it out, my dear? You posted it privately, which she says, 'I am awareness, but I feel more attracted to suffering.' I'm glad she said we could revise it, then you take it in the long fishing in fear. It is because consciousness actually is not done with its individuality, it is not done with tasting the taste of suffering yet that it does.

You can write it the other way. Remember if there was a time that all of this was the beach, you see? So good, thank you for... when you posted something, can I read it out, my dear? You posted it privately, which says: 'I am awareness, but I feel more attracted to suffering.' I'm glad she said we could revise it. Then you take it in. The long fishing in fear is because consciousness actually is not done with its individuality yet. It is not done with tasting the taste of suffering yet, so it does not want to come into this simplicity where it becomes a struggle to suffer. So just at the root of it, it exists. It's like we buy tickets to a merry-go-round, and every time we go, they don't make you get nauseous, just a little bit. It always originates so. I am teaching this right now. Mukti or free, this is ten rupees, and you give it. Using that, understand the ride will be better with time. I will make something out of this, right? It will be meaningful and elegant the way down the side. And again, all we end up getting is giddy because if we want to, at the base of that attempt, like the story of the particles of honey, we can have this and say it is a job they can give with individuality for meaning. 'I'm going to make it. I'm going to show my motherhood. I can make it on my own.' That is a whose voice? 'I can make it as a separate individual.' It moves. The inevitability of the end is going to look more and more. It says, though, it's how the statue is my mission. 'When I will build my bedroom motor, if I have a building named after me, when I will make myself immortal.' The truth is plainly obvious even to the mind. It makes every attempt to take the attributes of the attributes of consciousness and replicate it. Network new... oh, there is an example of the drop. There is a finite drop. Which molecule am I? A nitrile? The example of the drop is actually the drop is in the ocean already, but it seems to have a voice.

We were looking at a... okay, let's take a simpler example. Take this glass of water. It's as if there's one part of it, one aspect of this glass of water, which starts speaking as if it is individual. And then it seems to attach itself with some molecules or some boundary and says, 'So this is what I am. The rest of it is not me.' So our consciousness, our being, is like the infinite ocean in which all the appearances are coming and going, including the appearance of this form. If you look at it, at this body, all of this is one consciousness. And we get the ability to mark itself as something limited. We need to be for identification with the mind. It is consciousness's design which plays Leela in this way. And then it also designed it in a way where it said to itself, 'Oh, it's so beautifully divine.' Insignia doesn't make modesty until you say it. So beautifully designed to heal. And I myself, I come to a point where I get confused about my identity. So let me, in the design of the scale, also create these alarm clocks which will show up from time to time and remind myself that I am not a limited entity. These are just metaphors, okay? Not to be taken literally. This is pointing out how the state of the world seems to function. Consciousness itself, as if excluded, as if it is duped by illusion, by Maya. And consciousness itself being the Guru, the Satguru, and inviting others to come out of its play as individuality. So the person will never actually form. The limited, finite being never actually existed. And that is so obvious because if I ask you, in what way is the body concerned about enlightenment? What do you think? It is unconcerned. So where is that one that is concerned about enlightenment, about needing the band or manager? Red rose... oh, they mean anything. That one just doesn't exist even at a phenomenal level. This is an idea.

Then, of course, there is a line of teaching, a line of pointing, and a popular one is this: where you are an aspect of consciousness which you are not consuming itself. That's a wave of low line of teaching. But it will not align with the ideas that I have had about myself, although I can see the benefits of it in the sense that at least the idea of your being an individual entity seems to be false even there. Whether you were to see yourself as being consciousness and the source of consciousness itself, or a part, or a drop within consciousness, the end of suffering is the end of individuality. And then you can test with your experience of your discovery about yoga. At least this much all of us can be certain about. But that entity which wants something, like the voice of worship of quality, you desire... there is no tangibility to it. There is nobody like that. We'll be honest. Electrons as waves form, and body are not different from water. For the universe emanating from Self is not different from the Self. Please, stressing about this aspect of it, which is that this world appears, is not you. Leave it to the source of where it comes. And that which is aware of it, without the line, comes from the mind. Think that except early, and this is me. There is no such quality. It doesn't live in the dualistic way. In this way, the body can still experience pain and pleasure. The body is taken to be an aspect of the consciousness, an aspect of the... okay, we will clean our awareness but wave it. But I am Self.

It is a... I am awareness, but sometimes I'm not unaware of the way. At that time, what happens is it with its own... also what you might be implying, lost in thought, and which one will be fault?

Now, when you are lost in the thought or bound with the thought, I mean, when attention is with the thought, now who is the witness of this happening? We're going to see the disappearance. Forget about the... read it, but maybe only forget about the concept of awareness. Give you a two-minute risk. If you say, 'There are times where I am very aware, and there are other times I'm so caught up in my thoughts that awareness also goes out the window. I just have to do whatever I have to do.' So even during that time, there is a witness of the play of the return?

Yes.

Yes, but you are not saying that I saw the time of the blind. You're saying for the rest of the time, 'I am lost in my thoughts.'

Yes.

So even to see that 'I am lost in my thoughts' is possible. It is so. This substratum is not changing, actually. It is a period of consciousness which is sometimes playing as if it is unaffected, it is a reference, and sometimes being at this with a shota really. But this substratum didn't go anywhere. I can do whatever might be happening at the surface. Yes. So the entire ocean is you. Sometimes high tide, sometimes low tide, and just three. So as long as you keep identifying yourself with the surface, it might be like the ups and downs are still happening. When you identify yourself with the witness of these ups and downs, whether it is up or down, in reality, you don't change. That's what I'm going to see. So if you have said, for example, that 'I'm awareness,' how can others come if there are times where I'm unaware in this? But I have never witnessed that time. You do not think that. You think, 'I can see that I get lost in my thoughts. I get caught up in my identity, and then awareness seems to go for a toss.' Okay, even this you can really see because you are aware now. Whatever the play might be, I might say something which you might completely disagree with right now, unlike significant, which is if I say something it makes you very angry. Then would it be that awareness like a wheel, or this is a piece of anger coming and thoughts and means, all of that? But at the core of it, we are reality, we mentioned. So that itself, it was a lot of racial. Otherwise, it can feel like, 'I am on this wave where sometimes I slowly enjoy being just awareness, unflappable, and sometimes I get cut out from this.' So I am asking you to just step back for that layer of up and down. Welcome back pieces. Take yourself on the basis of the witness. Witness this poor thought and what happens to that one. And then, because how the mind operates is in this play of opposites, you feel that this is stress and the opposite of that is just bliss. And then you have to become completely, completely like this, and then you can say that.

If you are actually worried about what is happening at the surface level, many of the Satan is actually used to a good bit, a lot of anger, and maybe them... taking examples, a very even know which responsible for the deaths of thousands of... scream. There's seeming under person in a world with another. But it is what? The expression of all of this, the ups and downs of parts within this dimension or not, which is creating a benchmark about your reality. But witness is always that in every moment. And you've been able to check like this, and we have the space for this. What do you find yourself to be? So it's like the sun coming to the east or west because you can have this idea that when I'm not looking, maybe the sun comes over with. But to see that all of this will fit the consciousness itself. Then we take on as if 'I'm fully responsible for how these things are now.' Then we take on the idea of a limited entity, whether for illusive. So if you take on the responsibility of always being the personification of being, it's too much burden for anyone to carry. You don't have to be that. You don't water with it at all. We found stench up to the turmeric who make the effort to be authentic. So that being Metallica, let the world layout as explained, including this body-mind functioning. And then you will see it automatically. Don't feel like that depends on what I won't say it, and it better is the richest element. It's not uncommon that he coming disparate data to give you see all these beautiful masters we read all the trees you heard about. See life, it's very exciting with this one about this made nothing who might be able to see creative idea, whatever. Then we can try to reduce from this scale back effort itself, like a stone to value to tie any loose to light up an enlightenment. 'I am live a life.' We can meet or even a nice person look big panes of them. Everything that is meant to unfold in good light, you will find that the moment is already unfolding. You don't have to take on consultation to time-payment entity. What I meant, get on my team when you wound up where you live, looming with what you have to do, between with a year to with some spiritual integrity. We are to be a certain way to be entitled to first-class compartment. Okay, everyone has a secret, but you will suddenly if you want to keep one leg on the train and one leg trying to be a nice person with a particular type of human can to control the outcome in the cell or control anything at all in this way, that will shuttle. This is the Guru game. You are giving all of that is not that you will miss open like this. It will remove the attachment to the kick and the light will require more then. Then it's beautiful. Fine people kids good. Usually my response will be with the divine play. Can you... doesn't have an answer. Okay, good. 'Why' questions usually are from the perspective of individuality. Now be good that it was like individual actually. You can have these we'd end answer why we want, but I think that is no... all the answers are only meant to remove the question. I think like you have been near enough to hear this, that 'why' actually doesn't have an answer from a protein perspective. From the perspective of being, of consciousness, it is just to flee tentative to go the ultimate or really meaning it can be given to a mile because it's part of the case. So with that calibrated only from the perspective of being. So then if you were like caught up in your reality and the descent is not talking to you and I was always part of a play, you feel very upset with me. Who is that? What do you mean as personal access plan for 25 years when he's going to play later? We have to sort of intervene here is to hear if you be able to step back and see it from the universal perspective. See that there is no 'I' to answer to this one. Have you noticed I have set before them? So mind your question why...

From the perspective of the person, so then if you were like caught up in your reality and the Satguru is not talking to you and I was always part of a play, you feel very upset with me. You say, 'What do you mean? This personal access plan for 25 years, and then he's going to play later?' We have to sort of intervene here. If you'll be able to step back and see it from the universal perspective, see that there is no 'I'm' to answer to this one. Have you noticed I have said before then? So mind your question 'why'—but the mind hates the question 'who'. It's just one letter addition, okay? 'Why' in the room. So, 'Why does this happen?' That unbeautiful 'I' would create a front. 'Who' is it happening to? So they move away to have a conversation with you, man. Technically it becomes like that.

So the 'why' learns, but what is more fundamental? 'Why does this happen?' or you can see which is happening to. Identify who it is happening to. Maybe the like in the oxytocin, which is acceptance, it is that one has ovation. Why? Oh, we will give it to charity. You never know why. Like I said, we'll never know in this. Something I don't want to again before are overdue. We don't want the words that come have to leave to make space for you all, you guys. Anything wrong, we'll give them. It will they want to. Sometimes I make them take the perspective away, my limitedness, what stepping back in time from that perspective. Almost this is the clear light and our time-space of this Leela that is playing out in terms of difficulty and what the mind type these people we taking the agent. Appreciate this moment with this moment on the further getting here together. Chain doorman, I'm the most old episode with all the traffic and everything we collect from various parts of the ocean. We the Karen talk about beauty which are out of this. Then there's so much wonderful just each other's business quickly here to the mind. Why with to get out life? This one is identification.

See, the first place, enlightenment. So what is the meaning of an enlightenment experience? Would it look like this? And you have it with it, working back with it. No experience is greater than yourself. I think like the story to the past to a great with services. If we make everything centered around this one experience, like as if an experience itself makes us this elephant before that game on. To sir and to safer saloons law services, use yourself and then come to me and ask for a sense to be able to be deployed it. Don't be, don't be. What is the enlightenment? It's the recognition of the Self and the dropping of the false condition of individuality. So I am saying that you use the Self and then come to me looking possesses you can do. I don't exist contactor. I say, can you stop being? And what would be really if you want to do little things we answered they can, but actually we can say is this is the treasure a number scale that we've added liquid oozing from of useful old Alex things like a various giving their landlord is our premium. Well, it's okay all day long then fill in do it, which is basically where we have it now. Not taught that we tied because we have to be looking everywhere for it. Do not open our own, not a thing difficulty here because we are looking for it. I just give you something objective. The sense is really discovery level makes which is not octopus more than about this is not phenomenal. But I don't you find an object. There are many were at a very sober insight into what they are, the beating very peaceful is beautiful right there. Many move actuator whipping, lot of proclamation than all of that and then Godfather can see it specialists and spiritual angle business methods talk about an experience exact this office.

Okay, maybe a 2D Elizabeth. Can you not be aware? It will be same here to pay honestly is the same. Sigmund they acted then the recognition that I am caught up in thought comes much later. Terrific. It is the recognition that I'm caught up in thought. We can look at this out on the clock or on the theater here. That much is enough. We with another thought will come and see when it happens to you, you are not aware enough. Our tent is enough. But if later also you can see that the all that happened is that I got caught up in thought, this month when there is phase to check. Okay, it is enough. As you come to the only you will find that this, okay, again I don't want to give you a benchmark. Again, if you get the digital key, what happens is something wrong will come. Something happens the sternum and some feelings start to come, some thoughts come and we get caught up in there. Now all that is false, but the mind still has one more term curtain sign saying, 'See, you got caught up in that stuff. Now we are getting caught up in that thought that we got caught up using.' So in the tree in the conveyor belt of songs this we laugh on other ones ever desert.

Okay, we are the most calories because they make conclusions about yourself. We make conclusions at what level of spirituality, whether how free you are. It makes benchmarks about what happened in the moment just happened. But when we buy these ideas and we can feel like once we got there, yes, you can get so heart of all of these of this cause they have more calorific value because we are free to begin with identity. Let's as I also can see the distance to exist and even at times if we saw decays in a certain way, we plays as if it is angry and visible. That's created as if it is going to cook another squeeze to check out who you are to see if you aren't touched by me of this movement. That much awareness keeps coming to system and remember you have the space to sit on this. Your mind will keep you shut up in the bar, keep making report cards about your service. Yes, that's what I call call it Maya Genesis. We check again, taking and important because that's the way we've conditioned to be who college the college officials. All our reporting has been written like this leaders and to be your very good point because you did all those kids I give you still getting caught up in that on. See also a talk to you they leave this one to start with Italy. You say the recognition that I'm caught up in my thought come, he says this much maker looks original o me it isn't. We'll make yourself guilty of all things. Don't make yourself unworthy about we catch us is it. It's a lot is it and that I can do recognition of yourself a team that even that is always there but he'll within certain relief back.

Yes, awareness in order the whether it is a whether consciousness is always actually even recognition of its soul which it gaze at this it is this I can say the case with you energy contract for pause and if it for bomb this is deluded a thing can make the greatest our Miss Universe in do this I make such a Paolo was there then there's no way out of institution if I'd only way to explain it is to say the specifically shredder placed in them. Oh Cody who's on the Moto G they have a question they can come up to them having okay Harry after professor will punished okay have you can come my dear very probably say again my dear I didn't hear you so well I heard only sorry a little bit because cut it's coming and going not very clear only lips are moving here you can type if you want you're good all good there we also has real angio to get you a better connection know what is the point of working there and not having a better internet yeah okay you want to try one last time little better this time is really sorry to Korean not to be it medium not to see I'm sorry okay okay Pat I wish I group thank you a jar because is if I'm used to let me mute a new on mutant see.

Hello Father, now you can hear me? Okay, thank you. I don't know photos like from last two days maybe I'm not keeping festival anyway like canadair - from yesterday night or something strong here is coming inside like credit even today it was completely restless and I can see like this allergy problem I have for a long time it's not actually allergy but something is just coming up and it's like very fearful sort of thing. I don't know what hit it but it just sounds feeling where if year's performance faded and all kind of caught on kind of insecurity like lot of work is pending things so that as familia missus.

Yes, I know it's just a momentary but something just wanted to expose that thing to you. I can you know sometimes energetically some clay can happen like that and you know this that all you have to do is let it be those abuse problem if you feel like you have to hand it over just hand it over right now okay there's am a very quest for the question nada now that's a eulogy.

Hello my dear you can come. Hello yes I you yes you're not a partisan remember I'm nice to everybody actually you were talking about and not do it you're not the door and I'm in a favor whatever question I was arises in my head you know about turret reality or whatever even in my daily life which is included of course all answers are I don't know all of them like it yeah so of course my persona my identity is very effective like that because what I'm voguing it it slices from emotions but I guess this is very new for me to not know really not know at a point where even during the day I don't know what I want to do you know so this is the at the beginning I noticed this you know I was like ok ok let it let it go it this is part of the play apparently but now this has been like two three weeks you know and now I'm a bit cutting to fit out haha because if it's in like a little while for me you know but there is rest and much it's like a very quick flick I don't know how to explain look at this is rain enjoy this question yeah now okay I'm gonna cook you have to mute maybe walesí okay thank you for this thank you very much how do I remove here.

So what can happen is that even not knowing we can make tackle position. So there is knowing like I know a lot of things and now I don't know a lot of things. So the picking up of mental concepts and the not having mental concepts easy but very subtly even this can become a position that now I have to position where I don't know anything. This now even if this before the 'I' that we are talking about is their limited entity because that 'I' have this particular life and that 'I' is drinking out a little bit. All of these things are happening to a limited entity. Think again whether we can see it is or not. Even the idea that 'I don't know anything' isn't knowing that I don't know anything now. These so now what's going to happen to my life? So not even this we can know and the mind cannot do this. I am speaking to you as consciousness itself with my own being. Not even this we can know but I don't know anything because the mind can only operate in these opposites: knowing something and not knowing. And both can be composition using word or not the words his either or not is either so further or not suffering. Really what we are talking about is that picking the background of both of these position. So even the not knowingness can come like a phenomenal not knowingness that 'I know now that I know nothing and let me now see what happens to my life.' Yes, but you don't know actually what is happening to our lives whether what water is going to be the outcome of this mental forgetting and not knowing any concept we actually don't know really. So don't you can make a conclusion about what how life is turning out because of that. I don't make even the not knowing into opposition. We don't know someone over into a not normal because we will become like Socrates. Socrates in 'I don't know anything at all' and yet they can be a conceptual holding on to the concept of not known. So empty of the concept or twenty knowingness of any sort like if you don't have a confusion about your knowingness you don't know whether you know or you don't huh because subtle as it might be even this can become a confirmation where we come into whether on really I am just taking a silly example taking it that your rating to make the point so we might go to the restaurant and the server reversal any

You see, you don't know anything at all, and yet there can be a conceptual holding on to the concept of not knowing. So, be empty of the concept or any knowingness of any sort. Like, if you don't have a confusion about your knowingness, you don't know whether you know or you don't. Because, subtle as it might be, even this can become a position where we come into. Whether on... really, I am just taking a silly example, taking it that you're relating to make the point. So, we might go to the restaurant and the server asks, 'Anything that you want?' and you say, 'Actually, I don't know what I want.' And thankfully, a lot of that happens, you see. But sometimes even these things can happen to my position, like, 'I have to prove to myself or to the rest of the world that I don't know anything.' Or, 'I actually have become like this.' I don't know both functions, but we are not talking about another sorry example, dancing the names on something, sorry. And saying that I think that not even this... like, you don't know whether you know or you don't. How is that so? You can't even take a position about knowing or not. It can be very... keep our mind go to the... so then what? Now I am completely catchy stated. Either I know or I don't know. It is neither me. Even about the worship, 'I used to do it' or 'not to do it.' Like this, the question doesn't apply to you. The one that could be the key to moving toward or outward doesn't exist. And the one that is, is the one light of consciousness. This is the one dual, one do when one experiences. So, we cannot have a mental answer for any of these. Let's hope some of the text but through because, you know, I have to bypass the mind completely. A good kind of answer, so bypass myself sixty because the mind only knows a lot of it. Then I know, 'All right, I don't have to do this,' or 'I don't.' If I say you are neither, it says, 'Don't help.' Better have the mind which it triggers the recognition, allows something greater, something deeper that you are, which is beyond this game of opposites.

Very quickly, in any position that we take, even if it is based on the words, we'll get in the sun and we could be selective. Then it can become a position that tries to hold on to some command. It can become like this way, or 'I came to losing control of my life and comes gain in this country to happen to me.' You can... all of these, the 'I' for me is still the 'I' which is now relying on do not know intuition. But you are not that. That the last of Ashtavakra too busy. Take a step back. Even some sis who's watching this apparent moving and muffin cuter than this. You can do something that led to you here.

Yeah, thank you for the description. It appears clear, but still on the level of the mind, you know, what you were explaining it was very clear. But now I guess I need to chew on what you just said, you know. Because of course I am aware, saying that I don't know is already the fact that I am aware that I don't know. But as you were saying it, it actually... I'm hanging, I'm clinging to this idea of 'I don't know' in a way because, 'Oh, so now it's changing, now it's different,' you know. And actually, it's different but it's not... I just realized that it's not different. It's the same, just this change.

Good. So, I'm just... this is only what... this is just what I understand so far, but I hope that it will go... the understanding will go deeper and deeper. Very... this is really what I'm very happy with sharing of this, which is social change. There already seems to be a resonance with that. I'm very happy to support until Umi friend for helping. Thank you very much. Very happy because many times that then I could say that we come from an orange, you are not going. Even in this pointing, there can be the speed of opposition that turns point to ourselves, which can be limited with that. Why is just best to how do you give it to that not knowing? We doesn't know anything about knowing enough. We fit them with that not God, artificial, not a reference that we can make about animals. There's also people do not know somewhat when today. Yes, I know I think you don't know how to stir this until allowing of light one for negative opposition. This is cool from your sentiments beyond the concept of will not mean empty fool. Always very happy to receive for simulated on the wage which will take person basis. These can be very confusing, very at a point that it can seem like, 'Yes, we hope this works all the detail.' The pointing to anything announce, I feel like I don't know anything that my life because I what's going on. We doing that even this beautiful pointing or not my little candy front of this region. I goes my life. It is a given this one of dozens. That's the one who knew, that's the one who doesn't know. Both are less... traditional cotton and we both already we know or we go. Maybe I sense the mind cannot fathom. Do we operate in these of you something to buy from people? People balloon fill are they're having panic for persona? I mean the panic attacks, panic having panic for persona alone am my Universal Media. Come, you can unmute. Most of the hell okay. Jose, my dear, you can come under utilities. You know, there is the octopus.

Okay. Actually, after a month I came out of the house or X a bundle today and the righteous morning in having severe anxiety and I just landed the day in laws' house. So this panic attack happened the last one over so too much anxiety. I was it now now I had to take medicine and I took some sedative so I'm feeling better on the body becomes like so tight, you know, the teeth they get clenched and all those symptoms of the same fear and you know body trembling in all that stuff comes. So I just got the message that I'm not in this satsang, so I was not expecting that will be having satsang now. I don't know, I'm feeling very, very afraid to come out and I don't know how he'll come actually. The body doesn't cope up somehow. I don't know. I mean why it is always in so much fear? I think I don't know whether this one Isis beautiful maybe better so it's for the ten three worried about on the ten this one now. Just save me, hold my hand and aircrews.

You see, let all these anxious thoughts they come and go and the body movements whatever might be happening. It's already don't own stress about anything at all. All my love and blessings right here, here on new school.

Okay, I just wanted to say thank you. That's the call. I really want to come with them. I really want to come there and stay there for a month. I don't know if it happens or not. I don't know. Thank you for this. Thank you. I'll disconnect you.

Oh yeah, you want to say something to go away? This is hello. It looked like you wanted to say something. We want to say it? No? To get your daughter or friend? Okay, Dr. Rain. It's Friday. Maybe we can have a naming ceremony on the last for me by day after the satsang is okay for you? This Friday after the satsang we can have naming ceremony. Okay, somebody invented father human. Friday is not good for me. Okay, next week. Next week sometime. It's not all right rattling. Oh yes, okay. Okay, then when you're back with you how many baby seven we will. Thank you now in the end for you all so much for being incidentally. Mooji Maharaj ki Jai. Satguru Sri Mooji Baba ki Jai. Okay, I don't see the energy here today. Mooji Baba ki Jai. Fully continue back tomorrow on.