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Ashtavakra Gita Ch. 2, Vs. 20-25 Commentary and Contemplation - 10th August 2017

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Ananta guides seekers to recognize themselves as pure, unchanging awareness beyond the body and mind. He emphasizes that all phenomena, including the person and the universe, are mere imaginative projections within the limitless ocean of one's own Being.

The body exists only in imagination... are these my concern? I am pure awareness.
Find that which is the witness of all phenomena; find that which remains unchanging.
The limitless ocean of myself: waves of beings arise, collide, and disappear as is their nature.

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Ananta

We're looking at verse number 20 from chapter two: 'The body exists only in imagination, as do heaven and hell. Bondage, freedom, and fear—are these my concern? I am pure awareness.' The body exists only in imagination, as do heaven and hell. Bondage, freedom, and fear—are these my concern? I am pure awareness. So this verse, you must look at the end: 'I am pure awareness.' So yesterday we started, we said there are three clues to find the Self. What are the three clues to find the Self? Find that which is the witness of all phenomena. Find that. And if the answer, if the insight, is still phenomenal, then you find out who witnesses even that. So if it is a mental image or a concept or something, we find out who witnesses even them.

Ananta

The second clue: what is that which remains unchanging? If it is coming and going, then it cannot be the reality that we are looking for. What we have, the unchanging, seems... the changeful seems apparent to us. I mean, if you already have the changeful, it is world. So we are looking for that stability, that which is the unchanging. So first clue: I know that which witnesses all things, one's self to be the witness of all there is. Second: that which does not come into change. I said you do not come into it. And third: it must be direct. Sorry, it must not be something that you've just heard in Satsang or read in a book. You must speak from your direct experience of this. In fact, for most of you, I would say use the word 'awareness' as little as possible. The more we use it in a worldly sort of way... it happened once, I really get upset with this. I got a bit upset once when I noticed that everybody had become very casual and just making jokes about awareness. It's okay, but you know what happens is that all of these words in Satsang, they have a certain potency about them. And if you realize them, if you make them run-of-the-mill, they stop being those pointers, those potent pointers that they are.

Ananta

So to the seeker, the sacred word, the sacred pointing—just like the inquiry—must be very grateful for this. There comes a time where even all of these become meaningless, irrelevant. But don't be in a rush to proclaim anything yet. Allow them to do the work. I know there are thorns that we are using to remove other thorns, ultimately also to be thrown away. But as far as it is helping right now, then don't be in a rush to throw it away, to put it down. Don't become too Advaita too quickly and say, 'Nothing to do.' Also, why you've asked me to do the inquiry? It will happen because it has to happen. Those words which smell to one day, the same words smell completely different to another day. You see, but they were stunning when all idea of worship is stopped. You see this instrument just moving like a wave is moving on the ocean of consciousness, and then those words will have a different fragrance. And then you say, 'Who is here? Who will do the inquiry?' I find nothing like this. It will carry a different sound, a special sound.

Ananta

So, 'Are these my concern? I who am pure awareness.' So when we find, using these rules, you find the Self, then what is this one concerned about? What concern can you have as that awareness? So then when the concern comes, we are not to pick up an idea of unworthiness because hearing these words might make you feel like, 'Oh, now concern should not come.' In fact, welcome it. When a concern comes, welcome it, invite it in, and say, 'This too is in the ocean.' You see, no, you can't become... see, with this 'I' has to be dispensable. So don't treat anything as an obstacle. Now here in Satsang, everything becomes a way that I have, you see. Because Advaita also gives you the best tools for the ego to perpetuate itself. So resistance, denial... let it rush. Things are being swept. Sweeping is happening from under your carpet, sweeping of all the conditioning. See, if you continue to push things back under the carpet, then it will seem like this spiritual journey continues to perpetuate. So just remain open, this light, welcoming attitude. And when you see that truly as the Self, you remain unconcerned with anything that might be appearing in this play.

Ananta

So in the translation, or when Ashtavakra has used the term 'imagination,' it doesn't mean the way we usually understand it, like just my thoughts. It's not appearing in the physical realm and just imagining it. He's not saying it like that. He's calling this entire process of manifestation, manifestation of this power of imagery, creating a mystery, its power to project appearances. So from there we can understand that the body exists only in imagination, as do heaven and hell, bondage, freedom, fear. Are these my concern? So you see that it is only when this dynamic aspect comes into play, all this manifest world, the body... before awareness, because I see no differences or separation. Even the multitudes appear as a single formless desert. What striking... 'I see no differences or separation, even the multitudes appear as a single formless desert. What should I claim?' Beautifully written. He has emphasized this yesterday also: seeing oneness. Even here, this seeing oneness, but we are leaving the dressing. Very disturbing. There is all of you. Just notice how this happens. Take anything, anything. See these people, see the crowd. Look at the flower and see how the mind tries to contribute to the scene. Some duplication, some desire is also made up of that. At the same time, manifestation is also only awareness. Just like the finger is only the hand, all of it. It is not separate from you.

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Ananta

See, now what is the game that consciousness is playing? Consciousness is playing the game that at first we decided to pretend as if it is subject to this voice and actually is the one that is affected by this manifestation in some way. And now it's playing the game: 'Oh, that is beyond the voice's limitation.' So what can happen is that although the pointer goes to consciousness, it is recognizing that what the world is saying about me is not the truth about what I am. Is this part of my own design? Of course it is. Is it made up of consciousness itself? Of course it is. Yet consciousness contains both aspects. So if there is truth, this voice of truth like intuition, the Satguru's words, there will also be the opposite of that. If there is a saint, there is also the thief. So the manifestation includes both aspects of consciousness. Yet there is something which is pointing us to individuality. Just immerse it. Yes, yes, this is the way I stress so much. If a spectacle is not there, attention... as we see, so beautiful what he said. He says even the appearance of this thought, constant energy construct called thought, is part of the one appearance in perception. When we see with attention, there is no separation. Even that, the mind's unique power of belief which makes the pretense come on as if there is a separate entity here. So even that, of course, is part of the play of consciousness itself. But this is the way the play is designed.

Ananta

I say often that most shops in the world are selling you individuality. There are some charms at the Satsang shop which is telling you the idea that, yeah, all of this is part of whose play? This game, given the design of this play, some are designated as alarm clocks and all they have to do is beep. We can't help it. Knowing fully well that the waking will happen, it will happen. It is not that there is confusion about who should wake up. The alarm clock is not worried about that. We are all those pointers. As a kid, you can see like that. My job is to be the job of expression.

Seeker

You asked again, so why is there this awareness with this internal image?

Ananta

You see, so when at first the translator used the word 'imagination,' what he's implying is not what we usually call imagination. He says a person is an imagined entity, does not even have phenomenal existence. To call the person the second level illusion. So whether you believe this phenomenal existence to be illusory or not, you will equate it like you are to see that this person I cannot find, but the appearance of this body is undeniable here. So what Ashtavakra is saying, or what the translator is using the word 'imagination' for, is that aspect of itself which creates, projects all this imagery, all this world of appearances. It is not the way we usually will use the word 'image.' We are this imagining that is this world of appearances. The body is then... say the distinction between reality and appearance. I mean, shows that the definition of reality, the case study, is that it is unchanging. When you find that which is unchanging, from that definition, this is an appearance, is it? So just keep it at that because otherwise we try to see this apparent as if it is imagination. See that the dynamic aspect which is really phenomenal, all the competitive perception, is history. The place we search for this witness, this is all we find.

Ananta

So this is a point: there is no imagery with that. You cannot imagine awareness. See, if you imagine awareness, you have to find who witnesses even that. It's just like if I tell you just think about nothing. At best your mind will give you some blind, black-colored space. But not even black, it is not even transparent. You cannot imagine it. So this awareness, is it like that? Or does it have some attributes which can be made out of it? Is it then that it is the image? What is that? The body as our thoughts, type image, resolution has a huge... but has image. So what is that? It is phenomena. So where does it come from? So I am... we call that the... we conceive on the scale of this recount, but I as a Self remain infinitely. So what he is saying now, that all of this is imagination, he's talking about that kind of projection of imaging. He's not talking about that imagination which is part of the intuition. He denies that from the realization of that which is the Self, which is not phenomenal. From the perspective of that Self which I am, all of this is very good because oftentimes we hear this, then we try to, you know, do some sort of denial of the appearance of this world. No, the appearance is appearing. No further denial is needed. Just to call it appearance is enough. Appearance means one: that which comes and goes. Therefore, it is not the fundamental reality that which is unchanging.

Ananta

'I see no differences or separation, even the multitudes appear as a single formless desert. What should I claim?' So what is he saying? That there's nothing to claim in this world because I am beyond this phenomenal creation. I do not exist in this realm as if I'm an object. But as long as... that's why I said it's a cheat code. As long as there can be still this belief that I am an object in this world, then for those who have been blessed with a little bit of Bhakti, for them they have the cheat code. They can hang on to the Master, their own divine presence. And it is okay to feel blessed with the physical embodiment of this divine presence, as all of us are blessed with the presence of purity. 'Not the body, I do not have a body. I am awareness, not a person. My thirst for life bound me.' Very potent words. 'Not the body, I do not have a body. I am awareness, not a person. My thirst for life bound me.' The second body, this body which is... it works in collaboration with perception but also continues to be an object of perception. So then you see that it is because it is an object of perception, both in the visual way as well as the something to say that this defines you, this is what you are. That is what conditioning stems from. Move your hand here, walk here, all of these things. And then we wonder about this or that.

Ananta

If you see that this is the visual perception, perception of all that is experienced, in which container? The container of my existence, which also contains the visual, which is seemingly common sense of space. There is that space, the time-space our experience with what's fields. Unless you exist, is there an existence of time or space? From your insight, you have to see. If you speak from inference, then you say, 'Of course, I am sleeping, the world continued.' Right now these words, although they might seem to come from outside of you, they're just contained within you. That's for you. So they exist there. That consciousness is not this idea that we are one because of some reason, because we all experience... because we are already one. Not correct because of these diseases without an influence. We are the one because already we are that. That is our experience. But we have been taught by this mind and the conditioning, seemingly coming from the limiting illusion of myself.

Ananta

'Winds of the mind boil the immediate waves of the world, but when the wind subsides, the limitless ocean, the ark of personhood is swallowed up along with the universe.' What? Personal boundary dissolves. The distinction that 'I'... we don't have a distinction of your limitation defining you. Then you will find that you should do so. I'm shaking my head over there. This is this one, I'm shaking my hand, she's this way. No, you don't even be in a rush to infer that or to transfer it. If you're seeing it, it is that. Once you just do this simple seeing, that the boundaries that I experience of sensation, which I will take them... the 'I' which contains them, where does it stop? So tightly as to this 'I' is not physically here. The phenomenal representation of 'I' is 'I am.' Then all of that is this master play of light. There is no... as I say, that your position is not in this universe. I'm pointing you to that which is beyond time and space, which is yourself. The position of the 'I' in space is within you, within your being. And these are not the things that you should inquire into. You just keep inquiring into 'Who am I?' and all of these will become your sense.

Ananta

Sometimes it's good to hear because very sticky things are there. Like the Self contained within the body can be a very sticky thing. And we keep inquiring, and even at the end of the inquiry, you might come to the, 'Yes, there is awareness contained within this body.' The mind takes hold of our recognition and paints it in this way. So sometimes I shake you out of this idea. Why? Because the question I feel many times is this: 'I find that I am awareness, but how do I know that?' Even that is like missing the point in some way because we bought a mental interpretation of the recognition that sometimes we feel like it is one that happened without any concept.

Seeker

Yes, but is it possible without having a concept which are making fine mostly to the...

Ananta

The limitless ocean of myself, and how wonderful it is. The limitless ocean of myself, waves of beings arise, collide, wait for a time, and disappear as is their nature. How wonderful it is, the limitless ocean of myself. Tales of beings arise, collide, wait for the time, or disappear. This is the sweetness of all this.

The Thread Continues

These satsangs touch the same silence.