An Inclusive Approach to the Body - 14th June 2017
Saar (Essence)
Ananta teaches that bodily sensations and thoughts are not obstacles to be defeated, but opportunities for inquiry. He guides the seeker to inclusively witness all phenomena to discover the unchanging witness that remains untouched by them.
Instead of using these as obstacles, use these as opportunities.
What is it that witnesses both the sensation and the testimony from the mind saying 'it is me'?
The witness is unchanging; it is the mind's trick to say that conditions must change before you can inquire.
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Transcript
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How are you doing there?
Yes, I just wanted to ask you a very practical level question. Sometimes when I am going inward, you know, the bodily attachment remains. It finally boils down to feeling as if the body is the end of it. But the ultimate, the important notion is one should be a witness of this body and mind, and the thinking, and the internal mechanism of the whole process. But somehow, it actually... tell me, how do I get rid of this nonsense already, totally, from the final stage? And being in the inward-looking stage without any trace of bodily attachment? I am finished, I have controlled, asking you. Thank you, thank you.
A good question. Therefore, we will take this a little bit even earlier. So let me read the whole book. When I separate the dance on this side, we will continue. And our approach is not to try and push it away, but to have an inclusive approach to it. Not to be in denial of it; have an inclusive approach to it. Actually, I have not met anyone who is completely free, completely free from body identity. And it is definitely not the gate. Also, sometimes hundred percent ideal. And the way you call it 'nonsense,' I saw that there is a sense of aversion about this. People mix with the body here, and my advice would be: master certifications, we do, having a being clean and yet ready and very good. Wherever that's how it is. And the sufficient local versions, are they appearing in two different spaces? Are they appearing or different?
But when I start contemplating and looking inward, and I am able to... I am able to be in a non-thought stage, yeah. And then finally when I come to the stage, I mean, and then when I go to the next step saying, 'Okay, I am able to be in a state without any thoughts and I am able to watch.' Then when I look at that, who is the... who is watching the watcher? All these, all these events. Sometimes I get stuck at the body level, meaning my body, you know? So that it is the final stage. Sometimes it's not always during... sometimes in a container, actual contemplation stage, I get that kind of thing. But the whole purpose of the inward-looking is getting defeated by that. I feel very frustrated actually many times in that way. I will try to get rid of this on me.
Understand your fixation. That's why I am suggesting that, okay, let's do this together and see at which stage both of us get stuck. The proof of pudding is in the eating. So let's see if we can do this together. And that which you call 'defeated,' that is the sensations of the body. Something defeated all the takers away from the inquiry. So for some time, don't try to push away the sensation of the body inside. Experience it fully. Whether it is your arms, your legs, your chest, your head, any part of the body—allow yourself to experience it. This is the extent of all the phenomenal experiences that you can have right now.
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Now you will see that even these words that are being heard coming from the mouth of a teeming Ananta, it's also experienced. The other sounds on the rolls also. If you open your eyes, then a lot of this phenomenal content is also experienced. My advice is: collect all of these beasts, including the body. Now the question is, what is it that is aware of all of this? So then the presentation of the body seems to come up and the mind says, 'This is me.' Ask yourselves: who witnesses both the sensation and the testimony from the mind saying it is me? Now, who witnesses this?
So then, instead of it seeming like a defeat, the appearance of these sensations can add fuel to the self-inquiry by allowing you to focus on something and ask the question: who is the witness of that? And you will notice about the mind specialty that as you allow it to come, then it runs out of moves. If you keep resisting the mind, then it can seem to be very troublesome. If you tell the mind, 'Okay, what all do you want to see in the tensing right now?' the amount of thinking will delay quickly as you open. But if you say, 'Don't be mind, mind keep quiet, keep quiet,' they say, 'Hello, hello lady, come here, go.'
If you can make this little bit of switching approach and allow all movement to happen, then we are not concerned whether the room is quiet or noisy, or the thoughts are coming by the dozen, or the mind is quiet or the strong sensation. But everything that is coming as the one drive: what is it that witnesses? And the more it comes, the more it is the opportunity to ask this question. I think it defeated you because the witness is unchanging. It is the mind's trick itself. It is this: 'Should change and then I'll be able to do the inquiry. My position with respect to the body must change and then my Satsang will be on fire. My thoughts should reduce and then I'll be able to inquire.' All of these also clicks on the mind only. We say if you're not going anywhere, so instead of using these as obstacles, you use these as opportunity.
With strong sensation is there in the body, what does it take to witness? With this sensation, is that also sensation? What was it, the most primal sensation? It seems to be the sensation of being. What witnesses being then? So as you are open, as you are allowing, then all of these will not be like big obstacles because of our conditioning. Actually, it is because of the spiritual conditioning where you invert: 'the body must be satisfied,' 'ego must be killed,' this kind of thing. So then they become the condition for Satsang. Now, everything just look at what witnesses. And so again, I know I'm sorry, I said we do it together, maybe I went too fast.
No, no, no, no, it was perfectly all right. Thank you, thank you very much. Thank you, I got a very big, very useful blow from you. Come at another taste. Thank you, thank you.
The Thread Continues
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