Am I Getting to My Freedom or Not? - 17th April 2017
Saar (Essence)
Ananta guides seekers to recognize that while attention and phenomena fluctuate, the underlying awareness is ever-present and non-phenomenal. He emphasizes that one cannot lose this awareness, as it is the solitary witness of all experience.
Can you lose awareness for one moment? You cannot lose it, but you can lose your attention.
Awareness is the only non-phenomenal experience you will ever have; it has no color, size, or shape.
You are the one solitary witness of all that is; the world appears because of your attention.
contemplative
Transcript
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Yes, but who says it is 'me'? Which is desired, attains ownership over the body-mind, and says 'it is mine.' Oh me! Why I am stressing on this very importantly is that in spite of a lot of thoughts, many times it seems that the journey can still feel like a 'person.' You will open to many satsangs and it can still feel like: 'Am I getting to my freedom or not?' And in that 'Am I getting to my freedom or not?' if they pick up the idea of a limited 'I'—a limited sense of 'I' which is now supposedly doing well in its spirituality and coming to its freedom—as long as the reference is that for a limited 'I', that is not true Self-recognition.
We could have glimpses of true Self-recognition and yet very quickly, because of the mind hypnosis, go back into the limited perspective of ourselves and say 'I got it' or 'I didn't get it yet' very quickly. And also, it's been happening that some of us in the satsang have been hearing some teachings of non-dualism and things like this, and even in that it can be: 'Yes, I am not the doer.' But even in that, we pick up a limited sense of the 'I' which was considered to be the doer earlier, but now is not the doer. So all this confusion is still possible as long as we have a sense that 'I am still this limited entity, me, and I used to have this attribute and now I don't.'
So the main point to clarify is: who is it, 'I', that we are really referring to? This is clarifying our position. And then he will do this: 'What am I? When I have no objectivity, I'm pure non-phenomenology' or something. There is no objective existence of mine. That which is beyond all qualities, how does that one come to consider itself to be something which is so limited? So what is going on? What is going on? Yeah, what is that? Whose is that?
So we say on one hand that you are non-phenomenal. So if you're non-phenomenal, can you even have an interest? Even that quality is not yours if you're completely quality-less. What am I working with? So which part of the equation don't you see? You see that you're unlimited, but then are you fluctuating between being unlimited and limited? It seems to be limited attention, yes. So what do you really... when you see, what do you see about yourself? Are you something limited or unlimited? Let's see now. All of us, let's see now. Are you something that has a limitation in the form of even an attribute or quality or the constraints of any sort? Yes, really look. Important. Using Excel, see. We look at what is routine itself and there's some visuals are coming for you. Ask yourself: who's looking at even these visuals? Looking. Don't be scared as a thing. Don't be fearful of drifting this way. Love phenomenality, beyond phenomena for a moment, and check: what is it that you are?
Clearly, I like this grid very much. So all of you, sign that you are limited in a few... beta hands or the limited one. If it is 'don't know,' limited, limited, few limited, mostly unlimited. Now let's look at what gives us the belief in this limitation. It could be the intimacy of the sensations of this body. So how many of you is it the intimacy of the sensations of the body that make you sing a visit? One, two, three... oh, page one space please. Okay, the video is not there for most. Page two. Okay, so if you say that because I notice there are some intimate sensations with the body, therefore I must be constrained by them, I must be something which is within these—that's what we're saying. Let's look at them here and I could see that... is it justified? Yes, this is either the blankness of being seen or in the state court. Yes, with more will come to us and we'll come to that. But if you see a blank and swords, I think, and not bodies, yeah.
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So if I give you something to cover your eyes, you will see only glasses. So when I... not an extent which was something and nothingness is, yes, very different. Very different. Suppose I give you another experience as some mighty power. Suppose I give you the experience where you can see the entire universe. I'm here, Lippmann and everything. I only seem at ease because it avoids the entire whatever you can conceive of. This is the words you will so see. Suppose we want to go to all the lokas and they concern whatever we want to put. Suppose you guys all this means X. So suppose that I say that I do this and you can do... you can do all this travel, you can travel all the universes. What people forget, even you know please, what would you be? Feel? I'll be the time. But actually able to either... how can a blank feel 'I am'? I knew blank who sees the plants. Are you in the land? That is important. So what is that which is before that?
Yes, I don't know.
That is what next thing is. This is a very good point. I want to spend a few minutes on this. He says even the blank is seen. Something sees it, but 'I don't know what that is.' Now would you say that you see, or the one sitting next to you is seeing it and reporting it? Who sees the blank? You or someone else?
Now if you could at least... huh? But who is seeing everything?
Yes, what is this? Firsthand or is it secondhand? Firsthand could mean that you go direct. Excisions? Or she's sitting next to you, she's having that experience and reporting the decision like one? But yes, whatever it is, yes. Therefore you only know who the experience... I only know I do not let what other exchanges. You only know your... that is what it is. Now this 'you' that is having this experience, so sweet, missing something. That is what we are trying to find. This is... now you say 'I don't know what it is' because you are putting a posting. It's just to do the remove, is not rated, updated is to describe it. Okay, what are we confirmed so far? There is a witnessing of all that is phenomenal. There is a witnessing of all that is phenomenal. Now you are not able to define what that is except, and yet it is your direct experience. Linda, this much small ground we cover.
Now how is this known? Not the attribute or the quality of that. So how is this known? There is something that is witnessing the entire... is a hastily exercise fighting. I don't know that I am there if yes, and yet there is something to this or to think something which is there that it is. That it is my direct excision, not somebody else's. We're gonna ask you: are you aware now? Are you aware? No, I am still the head of there. No, are you just... are you aware or unaware?
I am aware.
You are aware? Oh yeah, keep away. Really Christopher, at expiry. I'm enjoying with conversation very much. So there are only two ways in which we see a certain thing, isn't it? One, we have the direct experience of ours, or second, we have just used is making it up. Now when you say 'I am aware,' it is your direct experience or you are just making it up?
No, no, it is your direct experience.
And yet you don't see this event?
I don't see. I see the rising in whatever you experience is.
It's very good. So you're on the hot seat today. Is this you? Just open, come out. So it's very good that you're having good conversations. Is there anything else that you can see? It is there but I don't see it. I don't perceive it. When you are sitting in meditation, package with her explain. I don't know that other than letting me know. Welcome back to where we were. You say this is 'I'm aware, I'm aware you,' but I don't see it, I don't perceive it. Like a computer, a couple few body, I don't perceive it inside. And she tries this awareness. Is there anything else you can feel the same thing about? Cannot. Is it the first? It is very important to see this. And Guru Ji says it is the only non-phenomenal experience you will ever have: your experience of yourself. This is what it means.
For everything else we say computer, table, ground, water, coconut—terms of objects—you see them objectively and we say 'yes, yes.' And what is it that is this awareness? If we don't see it objectively, you cannot say the color of awareness, you cannot say the size and shape, and yet we see. Is of course you don't be aware for a moment? Can you do it? Undo it? That is what is there already. There is always this, you know, this beyond the mental knowing, beyond the perception means you know it at the pool. What happens when I step over here? We get to go to the cyclist, we catch it. That's exactly what we exploring: what happened when you lose it and how do we return it? Yes.
Okay, so my exercise for you is: before you leave this room, can you lose it and show me? Use it for one moment. Don't deal with 'can't lose it,' but can I... can I back to the world? Will you turn that we now have you lost awareness? But this is very comfortable sense when I am protecting ourselves. I know who I am, my house is all of that background like in a different language. She says that this is fine, this is comfortable, whereas on that thing I cannot lose awareness. I see that. But what about when I go to the outside world? Now to even see that, I use my awareness means awareness attention on what we think will be repose that I lost awareness.
You're discussing is very beautiful chat. We... Isis Maya. The other day we were exploring to see this: can this awareness also come and go, or does awareness know itself? But even if you were to say awareness does not know itself, would need an awareness of it. Isn't this so? Can this awareness really go, or are you talking about attention? This distinction is very important because attention is the phenomenal functioning of the Self which occurs when it comes very close in like awareness because it has no color, has no shape, and yet it is limited because you cannot give your attention to everything. So many times we confuse our attention with our Self and then we can feel like 'I lost myself.' But actually what is happening is this... Cleo adventure. Even to report that attention is not within me, it's going outside, it is getting lost.
And we've been together engineer at some time. Essentially shows the human unconsciousness. We can hear our name of extraneous when we see ourself is awareness. When we see ourselves to be awareness, then there is not even the functioning of attention because the function of attention is to bring the perceptual worry. Dilys, the phenomenon appearance exists really because our attention is on it. So when I strove across it, you are the one solitary witness of all that is. This is what he meant. All there is is appearing because we to the play with your attention to grip this perceptual world life. Yes. Now what happens is that when an attention goes back home, to say in one way, is the functioning of... not even the functioning of attention we can say. Then what are we? We are just this awareness.
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